DUST Search - 25 Kill Asist and 35 Vehicle kill assist?

RECON BY FIRE wrote:

Nguruthos IX wrote:

RECON BY FIRE wrote:

Honestly Id like to see the vehicle assist go away altogether. Its one of the few things that makes tanks "OP". Put 3 people in a squad together in a tank with a squad order and you have a super easy way to boost orbitals. Watching CEOPyrexes videos I just had to laugh insanely as hes telling us what theyre doing isnt OP while hes also talking about "this is our 4th orbital this game". 4 orbitals in 1 game from 1 squad is insane especially considering it was really only 1 person that earned all those warpoints.

To address the issue of "it will discourage people from defending the tank," randoms are rarely actually trying to defend the tank, theyre just trying to get free WP. People who are squaded/corped together will geniunenly try to defend the tank regardless and everyone else will be encouraged to actually get out there and legitimately fight.

As a pilot with this being my only source of WP I will destroy you to suggest removing them right now lol

My cost per WP ratio is somewhere around 80,000 ISK a kill. Or so it averages out. That WP gets me like, what a thousand isk?

What do you mean as a pilot? Im talking specifically about gunners in tanks who just sit there and dont do anything but farm the 35s off the driver. Or even the ones that do stuff. Getting 35s off something you didnt do doesnt make any sort of sense. If youre piloting a dropship and someone gets a kill off one of your turrets I could understand getting points off that since its because of you they were able to do that. I still dont know if it should be worth 35 though.

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KING CHECKMATE unlight9 0	Posted - 2013.03.06 00:24:00 - [1] - Quote I read a post about someone complaining about this and i agree. I will just try to elaborate a little more. You try to kill someone but need to reload (example) and some other guy takes your kill.You get 25wp. You are sitting in a vehicle and do nothing and you might get 35wp per kill. So this might be actually pretty easy to fix= -Kill assist 25. -Vehicle kill assist 0 (if nothing was done). -Vehicle kill assist 35 (If you actually hit at least once the killed enemy) -Vehicle Kill assist same for Dropship pilots. What do you guys think? Im posting this cuz 2 days ago i was driving a tank and one dude got into my back turret and did NOTHING for the whole game. Just sat there and didn't even shoot a rock.Still got 3rd place.
Syther Shadows CowTek 24	Posted - 2013.03.06 05:21:00 - [2] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: I read a post about someone complaining about this and i agree. I will just try to elaborate a little more. You try to kill someone but need to reload (example) and some other guy takes your kill.You get 25wp. You are sitting in a vehicle and do nothing and you might get 35wp per kill. So this might be actually pretty easy to fix= -Kill assist 25. -Vehicle kill assist 0 (if nothing was done). -Vehicle kill assist 35 (If you actually hit at least once the killed enemy) -Vehicle Kill assist same for Dropship pilots. What do you guys think? Im posting this cuz 2 days ago i was driving a tank and one dude got into my back turret and did NOTHING for the whole game. Just sat there and didn't even shoot a rock.Still got 3rd place. if your in the HAV and you have a rail gun you will clearly have blaster turrets for the sake of Anti infantry shouldn't you be rewarded for fitting them and driving them into a position where they can kill a infantry unit ? but ye being in a turret and doing nothing is kinda silly for getting kills the tank gets but at the same time that would make people just up and leave the tank undefended so why not just a reduction if you hit you get 35wp for assist and if you do nothing 15-25 wp for assist they don't stack but atm getting 55wp for hitting a guy once and letting the main turret kill him is just a bit to lolzy
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 1861	Posted - 2013.03.06 05:24:00 - [3] - Quote Syther Shadows wrote: if you hit you get 35wp for assist and if you do nothing 15-25 wp for assist Wouldn't it be easier to keep the normal 25 point Assist whether you're in a vehicle or not, and have a +10 bonus for a vehicle assist that DOES stack with the regular Assist bonus?
KING CHECKMATE unlight9 1	Posted - 2013.03.06 05:27:00 - [4] - Quote Wll maybe as the same as the Dropship PILOT you get the Assist XP if you are the driver/owner. But the Side turrets wont get assists if doing nothing? maybe ... XD
RECON BY FIRE IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback 60	Posted - 2013.03.06 05:34:00 - [5] - Quote Honestly Id like to see the vehicle assist go away altogether. Its one of the few things that makes tanks "OP". Put 3 people in a squad together in a tank with a squad order and you have a super easy way to boost orbitals. Watching CEOPyrexes videos I just had to laugh insanely as hes telling us what theyre doing isnt OP while hes also talking about "this is our 4th orbital this game". 4 orbitals in 1 game from 1 squad is insane especially considering it was really only 1 person that earned all those warpoints. To address the issue of "it will discourage people from defending the tank," randoms are rarely actually trying to defend the tank, theyre just trying to get free WP. People who are squaded/corped together will geniunenly try to defend the tank regardless and everyone else will be encouraged to actually get out there and legitimately fight.
Nguruthos IX Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 71	Posted - 2013.03.06 05:40:00 - [6] - Quote RECON BY FIRE wrote: Honestly Id like to see the vehicle assist go away altogether. Its one of the few things that makes tanks "OP". Put 3 people in a squad together in a tank with a squad order and you have a super easy way to boost orbitals. Watching CEOPyrexes videos I just had to laugh insanely as hes telling us what theyre doing isnt OP while hes also talking about "this is our 4th orbital this game". 4 orbitals in 1 game from 1 squad is insane especially considering it was really only 1 person that earned all those warpoints. To address the issue of "it will discourage people from defending the tank," randoms are rarely actually trying to defend the tank, theyre just trying to get free WP. People who are squaded/corped together will geniunenly try to defend the tank regardless and everyone else will be encouraged to actually get out there and legitimately fight. As a pilot with this being my only source of WP I will destroy you to suggest removing them right now lol My cost per WP ratio is somewhere around 80,000 ISK a kill. Or so it averages out. That WP gets me like, what a thousand isk?
RECON BY FIRE IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback 61	Posted - 2013.03.06 05:51:00 - [7] - Quote Nguruthos IX wrote: RECON BY FIRE wrote: Honestly Id like to see the vehicle assist go away altogether. Its one of the few things that makes tanks "OP". Put 3 people in a squad together in a tank with a squad order and you have a super easy way to boost orbitals. Watching CEOPyrexes videos I just had to laugh insanely as hes telling us what theyre doing isnt OP while hes also talking about "this is our 4th orbital this game". 4 orbitals in 1 game from 1 squad is insane especially considering it was really only 1 person that earned all those warpoints. To address the issue of "it will discourage people from defending the tank," randoms are rarely actually trying to defend the tank, theyre just trying to get free WP. People who are squaded/corped together will geniunenly try to defend the tank regardless and everyone else will be encouraged to actually get out there and legitimately fight. As a pilot with this being my only source of WP I will destroy you to suggest removing them right now lol My cost per WP ratio is somewhere around 80,000 ISK a kill. Or so it averages out. That WP gets me like, what a thousand isk? What do you mean as a pilot? Im talking specifically about gunners in tanks who just sit there and dont do anything but farm the 35s off the driver. Or even the ones that do stuff. Getting 35s off something you didnt do doesnt make any sort of sense. If youre piloting a dropship and someone gets a kill off one of your turrets I could understand getting points off that since its because of you they were able to do that. I still dont know if it should be worth 35 though.
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic 326	Posted - 2013.03.06 05:56:00 - [8] - Quote It's unrelated, but I'll shoot vehicles as they're about to go down for the extra 75 WP
Syther Shadows CowTek 24	Posted - 2013.03.06 05:59:00 - [9] - Quote Garrett Blacknova wrote: Syther Shadows wrote: if you hit you get 35wp for assist and if you do nothing 15-25 wp for assist Wouldn't it be easier to keep the normal 25 point Assist whether you're in a vehicle or not, and have a +10 bonus for a vehicle assist that DOES stack with the regular Assist bonus? what i basically just said was you get 35 wp for a assist = you shoot them but don't get the kill yet the main gun gets the kill and 15-25 wp for a assist just for being in the vehicle = you don't shoot them but some one else in the vehicle gets the kill on them these don't stack with each other as for if you shoot them and some one else gets the kill (aka infantry) you get the normal 25 wp assist but hey atm as logi you rep some one who uses a orbital bombardment you get a guardian assist for the kills
Nguruthos IX Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 71	Posted - 2013.03.06 06:17:00 - [10] - Quote RECON BY FIRE wrote: Nguruthos IX wrote: RECON BY FIRE wrote: Honestly Id like to see the vehicle assist go away altogether. Its one of the few things that makes tanks "OP". Put 3 people in a squad together in a tank with a squad order and you have a super easy way to boost orbitals. Watching CEOPyrexes videos I just had to laugh insanely as hes telling us what theyre doing isnt OP while hes also talking about "this is our 4th orbital this game". 4 orbitals in 1 game from 1 squad is insane especially considering it was really only 1 person that earned all those warpoints. To address the issue of "it will discourage people from defending the tank," randoms are rarely actually trying to defend the tank, theyre just trying to get free WP. People who are squaded/corped together will geniunenly try to defend the tank regardless and everyone else will be encouraged to actually get out there and legitimately fight. As a pilot with this being my only source of WP I will destroy you to suggest removing them right now lol My cost per WP ratio is somewhere around 80,000 ISK a kill. Or so it averages out. That WP gets me like, what a thousand isk? What do you mean as a pilot? Im talking specifically about gunners in tanks who just sit there and dont do anything but farm the 35s off the driver. Or even the ones that do stuff. Getting 35s off something you didnt do doesnt make any sort of sense. If youre piloting a dropship and someone gets a kill off one of your turrets I could understand getting points off that since its because of you they were able to do that. I still dont know if it should be worth 35 though. Well I think it should stay in because this: Currently nobody wants to even get in a dropship. It's a flying death trap. They have to trust that the pilot is A: Going to take them to where they can get some kills B: Supply more kills than they could make on the ground (Not always possible) C: Trust that the pilot won't get them blown up / shot out of the turret (which unlike tanks is a little impossible to prevent) And so I need every little bit of incentive to get them to hop in, and stay in. Obviously tanks are a little different story as they just roll 30 kills a game and are near impossible to take down. Plus the tank driver can also shoot getting them points etc. But if I understand correctly player A in DS turret 1, gets some points from player B in DS turret 2. Which is also important because the turrets don't have full swivel and Each side can only shoot out one half of the ship, and usually there are only enemies on one half of the ship. So a gunner might get bored on one side and hop out because I'm not flying like a polite idiot to gyrate the ship giving them each turns at shooting. ra ra ra

Parson Atreides Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising 148	Posted - 2013.03.06 06:51:00 - [11] - Quote RECON BY FIRE wrote: Honestly Id like to see the vehicle assist go away altogether. Its one of the few things that makes tanks "OP". Put 3 people in a squad together in a tank with a squad order and you have a super easy way to boost orbitals. Watching CEOPyrexes videos I just had to laugh insanely as hes telling us what theyre doing isnt OP while hes also talking about "this is our 4th orbital this game". 4 orbitals in 1 game from 1 squad is insane especially considering it was really only 1 person that earned all those warpoints. To address the issue of "it will discourage people from defending the tank," randoms are rarely actually trying to defend the tank, theyre just trying to get free WP. People who are squaded/corped together will genuinenly try to defend the tank regardless and everyone else will be encouraged to actually get out there and legitimately fight. This ^^^^ They all had like 4,000+ WP (only a squad of 3) so they almost had 5 strikes. And the only thing they did all game was ride around in a tank while AdaptAndKill slaughtered everything. It's an exploit as far as I'm concerned and should be hotfixed, but CCP doesn't seem to care.


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