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Sentient Archon
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Posted - 2013.03.05 17:00:00 -
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Hi CCP
This is not the first time Warravens is doing something like this.
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=425481#post425481
When are you going to put a halt to this?
Its not that hard to throw RL money around you know. |
Deadeyes Anterie
Crimson Ravens Talons
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.03.05 17:03:00 -
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Since isk trading for real money is not taking money out of CCP's pockets I don't see this as a major problem. In EvE buying isk means avoiding paying your monthly fee, in Dust is doesn't mean much in terms of lost revenue. |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2013.03.05 17:04:00 -
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This is true you're not supposed to be able to trade in isk for out of game currencies only ingame currencies and commodities.
You can use $$$ to buy aurum.
Aurum gear would be tradeable for isk, however the gear has to be bought in order to be tradeable.
Ergo Aurum can buy isk an in further sense $$$ can buy isk but that isk has to be existent first and is not generated.
but
Aurum can never be used to buy $$$
Isk can never be used to buy $$$
Isk can bever be used to buy Aurum directly |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2013.03.05 17:04:00 -
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Deadeyes Anterie wrote:Since isk trading for real money is not taking money out of CCP's pockets I don't see this as a major problem. In EvE buying isk means avoiding paying your monthly fee, in Dust is doesn't mean much in terms of lost revenue.
Its a massive legal issue, you don't want real world government's to start taxking isk gains now do you? |
Sentient Archon
Red Star.
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Posted - 2013.03.05 17:07:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:This is true you're not supposed to be able to trade in isk for out of game currencies only ingame currencies and commodities. You can use $$$ to buy aurum. Aurum gear would be tradeable for isk, however the gear has to be bought in order to be tradeable. Ergo Aurum can buy isk an in further sense $$$ can buy isk but that isk has to be existent first and is not generated. but Aurum can never be used to buy $$$ Isk can never be used to buy $$$ Isk can bever be used to buy Aurum directly
I am ok with trading and all that good stuff. If you look at his ad he clearly says that they give $20 PSN crads for ISK. They have already been warned by CCP about this once before and yet they are doing this again. |
Casius Hakoke
Fenrir's Wolves
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Posted - 2013.03.05 17:10:00 -
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Nothing wrong with the prize of a $20 PSN card, but ya, the 'trade in' program of isk for $20 PSN cards is very wrong and needs to be dealt with by CCP. |
Sentient Archon
Red Star.
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Posted - 2013.03.05 17:10:00 -
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Deadeyes Anterie wrote:Since isk trading for real money is not taking money out of CCP's pockets I don't see this as a major problem. In EvE buying isk means avoiding paying your monthly fee, in Dust is doesn't mean much in terms of lost revenue.
If that's the case the money should go to CCP not anyone else. They are developing the game not ******* WarRavens. If money is going into anyones pockets it should be CCP. Not the ******* gamer! |
Sentient Archon
Red Star.
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Posted - 2013.03.05 17:12:00 -
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Casius Hakoke wrote:Nothing wrong with the prize of a $20 PSN card, but ya, the 'trade in' program of isk for $20 PSN cards is very wrong and needs to be dealt with by CCP.
I am NOT talking about the prizes. I am talking about the "trade in" program! Let WarRavens award their players the $20 PSN cards. IDGAF! Its the ISK for cash program that's got me all annoyed. |
Casius Hakoke
Fenrir's Wolves
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Posted - 2013.03.05 17:14:00 -
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Sentient Archon wrote:Casius Hakoke wrote:Nothing wrong with the prize of a $20 PSN card, but ya, the 'trade in' program of isk for $20 PSN cards is very wrong and needs to be dealt with by CCP. I am NOT talking about the prizes. I am talking about the "trade in" program! Let WarRavens award their players the $20 PSN cards. IDGAF! Its the ISK for cash program that's got me all annoyed.
Oh I know and I total agree with you. The only reason I even mentioned it was becasue in there post it is mentioned at the same time and could be construed by someone a different way.
In no way did I intend to disagree with you or your point, ISK sellers are some of the worst scum in EVE Online and I would hate to see it start here too. |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2013.03.05 17:16:00 -
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I think ccp should ban the people selling and all the psn cards they bought. |
Sentient Archon
Red Star.
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Posted - 2013.03.05 17:20:00 -
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Casius Hakoke wrote:
Oh I know and I total agree with you. The only reason I even mentioned it was becasue in there post it is mentioned at the same time and could be construed by someone a different way.
In no way did I intend to disagree with you or your point, ISK sellers are some of the worst scum in EVE Online and I would hate to see it start here too.
My bad too man! I like this game a lot and ******* pricks like the WarRavens doing stupid ******* **** like just messes up the Dust economy. The dust economy is fragile at best and this game has a long way to go with a lot of people already loosing interest.
And not that they are good. They ******* suck! Instead of throwing away PSN cards on player they could do something usefull to help the community like organize a tourney and offer those PSN cards as prizes. But No! They are jusy happy in recruiting ******* scrubs while disrupting the game! **** you WarRavens! |
Casius Hakoke
Fenrir's Wolves
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Posted - 2013.03.05 17:25:00 -
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Sentient Archon wrote:Casius Hakoke wrote:
Oh I know and I total agree with you. The only reason I even mentioned it was becasue in there post it is mentioned at the same time and could be construed by someone a different way.
In no way did I intend to disagree with you or your point, ISK sellers are some of the worst scum in EVE Online and I would hate to see it start here too.
My bad too man! I like this game a lot and ******* pricks like the WarRavens doing stupid ******* **** like just messes up the Dust economy. The dust economy is fragile at best and this game has a long way to go with a lot of people already loosing interest. And not that they are good. They ******* suck! Instead of throwing away PSN cards on player they could do something usefull to help the community like organize a tourney and offer those PSN cards as prizes. But No! They are jusy happy in recruiting ******* scrubs while disrupting the game! **** you WarRavens!
While I know nothing about the WarRavens, I do have the same feeling about the PSN cards and ISK selling. Oh and don't worry, I knew you just misunderstood me, its cool. |
Drommy Hood
Tritan-Industries
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.03.05 17:26:00 -
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Deadeyes Anterie wrote:Since isk trading for real money is not taking money out of CCP's pockets I don't see this as a major problem. In EvE buying isk means avoiding paying your monthly fee, in Dust is doesn't mean much in terms of lost revenue.
Erm eula....
Speaking from experience. Ccp don't take kindly to that sort of stuff.
1. Aurum is the currency you buy with cash
2. You will be able to sell aurum for isk almost certainly on release
3. Isk sellers tend to be people who exploit game mechanics
4. Isk sellers often use what is almost slave labour in developing countries to farm isk to sell
5. It effects the in game economy because of all the above
Finally
6. All in game items including the currency, characters and accounts are property of ccp and are not for resale
Welcome to the ban wagon. Unless you've got an awesome pitty story and a gm who's just had his coffee your not getting your account back. Been there bought the t shirt and almost lost a 6 year old character. Don't buy isk it's naughty, you WILL get caught, it WILL probably be on your first go and it WILL be a banning offence. |
Django Quik
R.I.f.t
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Posted - 2013.03.05 19:11:00 -
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While I totally agree with everyone about the issues raised here, the post you have linked is almost 3 months old and I've not personally seen any more recent posts from them mentioning that isk for money policy. |
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GM Vegas
Game Masters
C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2013.03.05 19:18:00 -
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Your concerns have been noted and passed on.
I am locking this thread down for now.
Thanks, |
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