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KalOfTheRathi
CowTek
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Posted - 2013.02.26 20:14:00 -
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Many posts misspeak the Madruger as Marauder and that confused me for sometime.
Having spent some time Gunning in a Madruger and checking the Market I do understand what it is and can translate the wrong name in the HAV discussion.
As I understand it the Marauder ?? Something is just skills into the as yet unimplemented Race Specific Turret Skills?
Is that even close to right? |
Vyzion Eyri
The Southern Legion
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Posted - 2013.02.26 20:25:00 -
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I believe (do not quote me for this unless confirmed) that the Marauder skill is needed to unlock the upper tier tanks. |
Mithridates VI
New Eden Research Foundation
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Posted - 2013.02.26 20:48:00 -
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Vyzion Eyri wrote:I believe (do not quote me for this unless confirmed) that the Marauder skill is needed to unlock the upper tier tanks.
This seems correct based on the list of skills collected here. |
Beren Hurin
OMNI Endeavors
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Posted - 2013.02.26 21:35:00 -
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So the skill itself has a modifier based on its level, but then the tank itself has a modifer based on the level of skill you have trained, then the turrets have a proficiency and damage modifier, then there's the turret operation damage modifier.
So Marauder tank bonus at level 5 = +15%?
Marauder skill bonus at level 5 = +20% damage
Turret operation lvl 5 = +10% damage
X large Turret operation lvl 5 = +15% damage
x Large turret proficiency lvl 5 = +10% damage
+10% to +15% from damage mods
Ends up with max skills at +85% damage to +120% damage bonus from max skills mods.
Either way, a marauder will likely be the anti-tank variants as they (should) hit 20% to 40% harder with their extra skills bonus and slot bonus. You really wouldn't need that extra damage if you can already one shot most infantry with your splash damage |
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Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.02.26 22:39:00 -
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KalOfTheRathi wrote:Many posts misspeak the Madruger as Marauder and that confused me for sometime.
Having spent some time Gunning in a Madruger and checking the Market I do understand what it is and can translate the wrong name in the HAV discussion.
As I understand it the Marauder ?? Something is just skills into the as yet unimplemented Race Specific Turret Skills?
Is that even close to right?
I can explain ^.^
So the Sagaris and Surya tanks are considered a "marauder" level HAV. (Caldari or Gallente HAV level 3)
The marauder skill goes to the racial that's displayed on each tank. If you check out a Sagaris, it'll tell you that you'll get additional damage from using missile turrets per lvl of marauder skill. For a Madruger, it's blaster damage.
It is implemented. |
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Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.02.26 22:41:00 -
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The Marauder skill is not required to unlock the best current tanks (sagaris and surya). |
KalOfTheRathi
CowTek
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Posted - 2013.02.27 02:44:00 -
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Thanks everyone.
At least it makes sense now.
I will add it as soon as my HAVs are past Militia. 
Focusing on Turrets and skipping DS, LAVs for now.
Next week or so should be close but lvl 5 Large Hybrid is going to wait. Hard to see putting those into lightweight gear. |
ChromeBreaker
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2013.02.27 11:04:00 -
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A Madruger IS a Marauder. Marauder is the class of vehicle |
Beren Hurin
OMNI Endeavors
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Posted - 2013.02.27 13:39:00 -
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ChromeBreaker wrote:A Madruger IS a Marauder. Marauder is the class of vehicle
I thought that only the Sagaris and the Surya were marauders....stop confusing him. |
KalOfTheRathi
CowTek
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Posted - 2013.02.27 13:43:00 -
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Too late. Now I am confused once again.
Why does the Marauder need Power Grid lvl 4 if it is a Madruger or the others listed for that matter?
I have headache. |
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Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.02.27 18:56:00 -
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KalOfTheRathi wrote:Too late. Now I am confused once again.
Why does the Marauder need Power Grid lvl 4 if it is a Madruger or the others listed for that matter?
I have headache.
Why not just listen to the players who actually use top level HAVs? =]
So here is what you do. FORGET about the Marauder skill until you have a Surya or Sagaris. The marauder skill only helps Marauder class HAVs, and the Marauder class HAVs are ONLY Surya and Sagaris.
ONCE you have a Surya OR Sagaris, then you MIGHT want to put sp in the Marauder skill. IF you do, make sure it is for the CORRECT racial variant. Keep in mind that right now the Marauder skill ONLY works on Marauder class HAVs. Marauder class HAVs are ONLY Surya and Sagaris.
If you go to the marketplace, select "vehicles", and then select "Heavy Attack Vehicles", you can see the Heavy Attack Vehicles.
Move over the Sagaris HAV and press triangle. Once you do that, a menu will come up that explains a bunch of things. There will be a part telling you that this is a marauder class vehicle, and at the bottom you will also see:
+4% bonus to Large Missile launcher damage per level.
If you look at the Surya, the other Marauder class HAV, you will see that it says:
+4% bonus to Large Blaster turret damage per level.
So here is how it works:
Once you unlock your Marauder class HAV (Surya or Sagaris) you can then skill up the racial turret bonus. One point in the "marauder" skill increases the bonus by 4% per level. If you're using a Sagaris, the Large Missile Turret will gain additional damage, and if you're using a Surya, the Large Blaster Turret will gain additional damage.
THAT'S IT
There is no other advantage or requirement for that skill. If you have a Gunnlogi, don't get the Marauder skill because it only effects Marauder class vehicles. If you have a Madrugar, don't get the Marauder skill because it only effects Marauder class vehicles. If you have a Sagaris and do not use Large Missile Turrets, do not get the Marauder skill because it only increases the damage of LMTs on a Sagaris. If you use a Surya, but have a LMT on it and not a blaster, do not get the Marauder skill because it only increases the damage of LBTs on Suryas.
Pretty sure that's good advice for you ^.^ |
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Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.02.27 19:02:00 -
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Also, whatever google docs thing was linked here is wrong. Don't use it (at least not for HAV skills).
Marauder skill is (12x), and this can be seen by anyone. Just look at the skills, and you'll see "Marauder (12x)". I have no idea how accurate it is or even what it is for, but it can't accurately list values that are handed out to every player @.@ |
KalOfTheRathi
CowTek
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Posted - 2013.02.28 12:24:00 -
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@0 Try Harder, thanks. In particular when the answer took that much to explain. No wonder it didn't make sense before.
I do appreciate it though. I am some SP from having to make the decision.
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