DUST Search - DUST 514 vs Planetside 2!!

Shadows Maker wrote:

Iron Wolf Saber wrote:

Shadows Maker wrote:

Well PS4 has been finally announced YAY!

anyway my concern is Planetside 2! This game has been hinted several times for Playstation and yesterday SOE president John Smedley tweeted:

Quote:

John Smedley GÇÅ@j_smedley
we are VERY excited about the Playstation 4. Read into that what you will :)

Also several months ago:

Quote:

When asked about the chance of the PC MMO shooter Planetside 2 heading to PS3 (think Dust 514 with more colours) he responded, GÇ£What IGÇÖd say is GÇô SOE has proven that we can bring our games to the PS3, and itGÇÖs fair to say that weGÇÖve got some other stuff out there cooking. I canGÇÖt tell you what platforms itGÇÖs for, but weGÇÖre really excited about itGÇ¥.

So pretty much Planetside 2 is confirmed for PS4 but so does DUST 514! i mean this will kill one of them and honestly i don't think it will be PS2.

I wanted to see what people think about this and when it happens which game you will choose to stick with?

PS2 announced server mergers because of low populations.

There are 14 servers now which is a lot, so it was there fault to open too many servers in the first place

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Shadows Maker Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 129	Posted - 2013.02.23 17:57:00 - [1] - Quote Well PS4 has been finally announced YAY! anyway my concern is Planetside 2! This game has been hinted several times for Playstation and yesterday SOE president John Smedley tweeted: Quote: John Smedley GÇÅ@j_smedley we are VERY excited about the Playstation 4. Read into that what you will :) Also several months ago: Quote: When asked about the chance of the PC MMO shooter Planetside 2 heading to PS3 (think Dust 514 with more colours) he responded, GÇ£What IGÇÖd say is GÇô SOE has proven that we can bring our games to the PS3, and itGÇÖs fair to say that weGÇÖve got some other stuff out there cooking. I canGÇÖt tell you what platforms itGÇÖs for, but weGÇÖre really excited about itGÇ¥. So pretty much Planetside 2 is confirmed for PS4 but so does DUST 514! i mean this will kill one of them and honestly i don't think it will be PS2. I wanted to see what people think about this and when it happens which game you will choose to stick with?
Paran Tadec Imperfects Negative-Feedback 902	Posted - 2013.02.23 17:59:00 - [2] - Quote oh, this thread again
Telcontar Dunedain Imperfects Negative-Feedback 328	Posted - 2013.02.23 18:00:00 - [3] - Quote I think it's going to force CCP to step up their game, which is a very good thing. However having played a bit of Planetside 2 I don't find it very sticky. The battles are huge and awesome but there is no mmo stickiness to the game for whatever reason. You login, have a huge fight, stop to get a sandwich and log back in to having everything you fought for back in enemy hands. Cool game but I think Dust514 has a very good chance against if they get serious with the Eve links.
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2867	Posted - 2013.02.23 18:01:00 - [4] - Quote Shadows Maker wrote: Well PS4 has been finally announced YAY! anyway my concern is Planetside 2! This game has been hinted several times for Playstation and yesterday SOE president John Smedley tweeted: Quote: John Smedley GÇÅ@j_smedley we are VERY excited about the Playstation 4. Read into that what you will :) Also several months ago: Quote: When asked about the chance of the PC MMO shooter Planetside 2 heading to PS3 (think Dust 514 with more colours) he responded, GÇ£What IGÇÖd say is GÇô SOE has proven that we can bring our games to the PS3, and itGÇÖs fair to say that weGÇÖve got some other stuff out there cooking. I canGÇÖt tell you what platforms itGÇÖs for, but weGÇÖre really excited about itGÇ¥. So pretty much Planetside 2 is confirmed for PS4 but so does DUST 514! i mean this will kill one of them and honestly i don't think it will be PS2. I wanted to see what people think about this and when it happens which game you will choose to stick with? PS2 announced server mergers because of low populations.
Shadows Maker Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 129	Posted - 2013.02.23 18:07:00 - [5] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Shadows Maker wrote: Well PS4 has been finally announced YAY! anyway my concern is Planetside 2! This game has been hinted several times for Playstation and yesterday SOE president John Smedley tweeted: Quote: John Smedley GÇÅ@j_smedley we are VERY excited about the Playstation 4. Read into that what you will :) Also several months ago: Quote: When asked about the chance of the PC MMO shooter Planetside 2 heading to PS3 (think Dust 514 with more colours) he responded, GÇ£What IGÇÖd say is GÇô SOE has proven that we can bring our games to the PS3, and itGÇÖs fair to say that weGÇÖve got some other stuff out there cooking. I canGÇÖt tell you what platforms itGÇÖs for, but weGÇÖre really excited about itGÇ¥. So pretty much Planetside 2 is confirmed for PS4 but so does DUST 514! i mean this will kill one of them and honestly i don't think it will be PS2. I wanted to see what people think about this and when it happens which game you will choose to stick with? PS2 announced server mergers because of low populations. There are 14 servers now which is a lot, so it was there fault to open too many servers in the first place
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2867	Posted - 2013.02.23 18:08:00 - [6] - Quote Shadows Maker wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Shadows Maker wrote: Well PS4 has been finally announced YAY! anyway my concern is Planetside 2! This game has been hinted several times for Playstation and yesterday SOE president John Smedley tweeted: Quote: John Smedley GÇÅ@j_smedley we are VERY excited about the Playstation 4. Read into that what you will :) Also several months ago: Quote: When asked about the chance of the PC MMO shooter Planetside 2 heading to PS3 (think Dust 514 with more colours) he responded, GÇ£What IGÇÖd say is GÇô SOE has proven that we can bring our games to the PS3, and itGÇÖs fair to say that weGÇÖve got some other stuff out there cooking. I canGÇÖt tell you what platforms itGÇÖs for, but weGÇÖre really excited about itGÇ¥. So pretty much Planetside 2 is confirmed for PS4 but so does DUST 514! i mean this will kill one of them and honestly i don't think it will be PS2. I wanted to see what people think about this and when it happens which game you will choose to stick with? PS2 announced server mergers because of low populations. There are 14 servers now which is a lot, so it was there fault to open too many servers in the first place That's still not helping in 2-4 man platoons deparment, nor mostly everyone else I have talked with about why they're quitting.
Takahiro Kashuken Intara Direct Action Caldari State 102	Posted - 2013.02.23 18:08:00 - [7] - Quote Telcontar Dunedain wrote: I think it's going to force CCP to step up their game, which is a very good thing. However having played a bit of Planetside 2 I don't find it very sticky. The battles are huge and awesome but there is no mmo stickiness to the game for whatever reason. You login, have a huge fight, stop to get a sandwich and log back in to having everything you fought for back in enemy hands. Cool game but I think Dust514 has a very good chance against if they get serious with the Eve links. ^This If it does arrive on PS4, great another shooter which isnt COD and also has vehicles in it and is bigger than BF3 It may make CCP step up but PS2 is just a mindless shooter, DUST is being built for a little bit more than that
Firestorm Zulu Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 158	Posted - 2013.02.23 18:08:00 - [8] - Quote Shadows Maker wrote: Well PS4 has been finally announced YAY! anyway my concern is Planetside 2! This game has been hinted several times for Playstation and yesterday SOE president John Smedley tweeted: Quote: John Smedley GÇÅ@j_smedley we are VERY excited about the Playstation 4. Read into that what you will :) Also several months ago: Quote: When asked about the chance of the PC MMO shooter Planetside 2 heading to PS3 (think Dust 514 with more colours) he responded, GÇ£What IGÇÖd say is GÇô SOE has proven that we can bring our games to the PS3, and itGÇÖs fair to say that weGÇÖve got some other stuff out there cooking. I canGÇÖt tell you what platforms itGÇÖs for, but weGÇÖre really excited about itGÇ¥. So pretty much Planetside 2 is confirmed for PS4 but so does DUST 514! i mean this will kill one of them and honestly i don't think it will be PS2. I wanted to see what people think about this and when it happens which game you will choose to stick with? Oh wow, that gives some real meaning and incentive to make DUST514 look like it didn't come from 2002. Whats that you say? Laying a good framework you say? Will takes another 2 years for DUST to have a meaningful relationship with EVE? I'm hearing the whistle of the bomb.
Telcontar Dunedain Imperfects Negative-Feedback 328	Posted - 2013.02.23 18:10:00 - [9] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: That's still not helping in 2-4 man platoons deparment, nor mostly everyone else I have talked with about why they're quitting. Why don't you write up some lessons learned from PS2 Ironwolf? I think you are way too dismissive of the game but if you are talking to people that stopped playing it would interesting to hear in the context of Dust514. I will, of course, give you my critique ;)
Shadows Maker Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 129	Posted - 2013.02.23 18:14:00 - [10] - Quote Paran Tadec wrote: oh, this thread again at least now we know what game Paran choose to play Telcontar Dunedain wrote: I think it's going to force CCP to step up their game, which is a very good thing. However having played a bit of Planetside 2 I don't find it very sticky. The battles are huge and awesome but there is no mmo stickiness to the game for whatever reason. You login, have a huge fight, stop to get a sandwich and log back in to having everything you fought for back in enemy hands. Cool game but I think Dust514 has a very good chance against if they get serious with the Eve links. agreed the competition will force CCP to step it up. I haven't tried PS2 because my PC sucks so am really looking forward to try it out on PS4 plus DUST turned out not the MMOFPS i wanted while PS2 certainly is. well its comes down to preferences you obviously gonna stick with Dust while i'll be more than happy to jump ships BTW thanks for your inputs

Shadows Maker Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 129	Posted - 2013.02.23 18:18:00 - [11] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: That's still not helping in 2-4 man platoons deparment, nor mostly everyone else I have talked with about why they're quitting. but the game still maintain a healthy population
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2867	Posted - 2013.02.23 18:29:00 - [12] - Quote Telcontar Dunedain wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: That's still not helping in 2-4 man platoons deparment, nor mostly everyone else I have talked with about why they're quitting. Why don't you write up some lessons learned from PS2 Ironwolf? I think you are way too dismissive of the game but if you are talking to people that stopped playing it would interesting to hear in the context of Dust514. I will, of course, give you my critique ;) Fine Lack of Tutorial leaves far to many players wondering WTF is going on, how its going on, and where to go on? Lack of investment of lore, unless you read the planetside 1 manual you have no effing idea who the hell the VS, NC, or TR are? Lack of diversity, Same tanks across all three races, similarly designed fighters. The same battle bus, the same atvs, the list goes on an on, this really kills the feel of separate factions to the point its just quite often its RvB with Purple being the only unique faction? Also because of this, I have killed more friendly tanks than hostile tanks. Lack of persistence, what I did 10 minutes ago doesn't matter. Battlefried resource rates are capped, so are resource stock being capped, so ultimately why bother fighting? Grinds in planetside 2 is so gawd awful for extremly little gains some options are beyond trivial, and unnoticable outside the weapons selections. Along with that what one common ability class unlocks does not transfer to all other classes, How many times do I have to retrain arbalative armor? On that note, the most useful guns are locked behind month long grinds each, the default guns for most classes just utterly suck for their roles. UI is excruciatingly TERRIBLE in graphical quality. Really it looks like something from 1998 games using 2d sprites to display UI. Minimal Graphics Settings =/= Minimal Grpahics to play No Punishments for being a failhard outside getting farmed at your warp gate which they're removing eventually. No Rewards for being a pro-nwer. Facility Maps are extraordinarily terrible they always seem to result into 1 choke camp fest. Defense of facilities seems impossible in equal number fights. Squad Leaders deploying orders requires leveling up.... Class Based System sucks more overall. Faction weapons between the TR and NC is not distinctive enough. The 6 Month plan nearly reflects what dust 514 been doing the last year and does not address core issues with the game. The game feels like a total cop out in trying to be long term, unlocks and access to different gear takes way to long to gain access too. Constantly dwindling player team sizes just, is just heart breaking, I am not seeing the 2000v2000 fights like some enthusiastic fans where claiming the largest fights these days are 30 vs 10. Adding another map would probably make this much much worse. 8 Facility maps are boring, repetitive, and non functional. there is absolutely no correlation between what facilities do and their design or urgency.
Invading Oren Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 7	Posted - 2013.02.23 19:13:00 - [13] - Quote Well it will be F2P so I guess everyone will give it a try.Still there's no reason to compare it with an unfinished product.

GM Hercules Game Masters C C P Alliance 335	Posted - 2013.02.23 19:31:00 - [14] - Quote Locked, duplicated. Please visit: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=60209&find=unread Thanks.



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