Just had a match on Manus Peak ambush where me and three of my team mates spawned in a blaster Gunnlogi each.

It's an utterly broken game mode, one non-militia HAV is beyond what you should reasonably expect 16 randoms to be able to deal with let alone four. They're fair enough in corp/contract matches where you should expect a high level of organisation and decent AV tactics.

Until CCP come to their senses and ban all tanks in public ambushes and non-militia tanks in public skirmishes I'm going to abuse the hell out of them.

This is to the first quote.


Have you even driven a tank before? Why the hell do people assume its easy mode?

For me using an AR is easy mode.

Really? You think it will take 16 randoms to kill 1 madrugar? Are you really that ignorant?

It takes 1 good AV player that has fully spec'd AV and knows how to use it to kill a tank. ESPECIALLY in ambush.

One might say, "that's so much sp to fully put into AV"

Well, for a even half decent fit tank they've put a couple mill more sp into it then for your full proto AV weapons.


I can't understand why people think you should be able to solo tanks, has this game went into the toilet that far that when someone has to put 5+ mill sp into one thing, tank, that it should be solo able? Shouldn't it take at least half a team to take it down?

You put 2 fully spec'd AV guys in ambush with a Surya, Surya is toast.

Yet here we are catering to the 90% player base of AR users. Who who'd rather see tanks and other things their weapons can't deal with simply removed or nerfed.

Tanks should be a game changer, its like dropping a carrier to support your BS fleet.....well carriers rep, but you getmthe meaning.


Right now, tanks are simply free points to people who know how to use AV.

In the first build ever ever, tanks were hard to kill. It took almost the entire team.

Then tanks got a major Nerf. Look at the current weapons for tanks, railguns have horrible splash, even railgun installations have a better system, missiles are simply broke, blasters used to be garbage and no one used them, now its the only thing functioning. Tank HP got cut down,

Then AV got a buff.

There are so many problems in the AV vs Vehicle department that CCP should feel like they failed somewhere along the line in that department, and honestly must not play their game much.

So now you want tanks out of ambush? Are you kidding me, thankfully for the time being dust is still called DUST 514

Not

AR DUST 514, The Only Way to be Certain.

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+1 finally someone who gets it, welcome to the 10%

Have you even driven a tank before? Why the hell do people assume its easy mode?

For me using an AR is easy mode.
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Because you only lose 1 every few games,

You still lose the isk,

Kdr doesn't matter.

Your not going to drop enough tanks in one match to ruin kdr.

My point is....if ARs are easy mode then how come the tankers don't die as much and still **** the battlefield?

Not arguing about importance of KDR in dust. I'm just saying that ARs can't be easy mode when the tankers are doing better as far as KDR is concerned. Mr. Zitro's KDR is like 25, right? Sir Meode's is like 17, Exmaple's is 11, etc.......you don't see any AR guy with numbers comparable those.

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Whoever says its not compared to tank driving is shooting crap out.

AR is easy when you know how to aim.

You also don't have to multi task, did you even read my above post girlfriend?

But as my above post says,

With AR all you have to do is aim and take cover.

The original comment was between the difficulty between using an AR or driving a tank.

I'm not saying AR is simple, but it is easier then driving a tank.

As above,

Tank has to worry about position, hardners, reps, all the mods,

Then you have swarms coming for you at long range from several spots, forge gunners who are hard to spot, don't know who's AV or not or who has AV grenades, and the entire enemy team is aware of your presence and focus's on killing you specifically.

Where as AR you aim, take cover, stay with team mates and no one is really hunting just you, they're going for your team.

Like I said, tank is a target for the whole other team, you have a lot to worry about, for me personally,

Playing AR is far more relaxing then driving a tank.

The tanks themselves don't need nerfing, I think they're fine for serious battles and an organized corp can take them out without breaking their stride.

What's not fine is how easy it is to pubstomp in one, especially in public ambushes where you don't come across any organised resistance. It's why I use them in public matches.

Now I could do the honourable thing and not use tanks in public matches, but when a game has an abusable mechanic it should be up to the developer to address the issue rather than hope the player base will play nice.