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fred orpaul Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising 211	Posted - 2013.02.18 01:33:00 - [1] - Quote If you see this corp in a match double check your MCC ten bucks says they will be camped out there for the whole match. Near as I can figure the corp is composed of two alts of one guy and used as a means to farm up SP. Ive seen the same two guys in three matches sitting in the MCC going 0/0 and 0WP. Twice on my team once on the opposing team. Ever team that has this two player handicap loses hands down( tho a double squad of quality corps could most likely pull out a hard victory). If you find a way to kill teammates or enemies in the MCC post on this thread so we can start get wastes of space like this kicked from matches.
Sigberct Amni ZionTCD Legacy Rising 16	Posted - 2013.02.18 02:13:00 - [2] - Quote I've seen many a team get completely curb stomped due to having just two 0/0 0 WP guys in the MCC. It sucks, but one of these days we can leave pub matches behind and focus on territory. Till then, I read it's possible to fly a dropship inside the friendly MCC. Maybe if it explodes next to the AFKs, it kills them? Drive a LAV on top of a dropship and then into the MCC perhaps? Use that LAV to bump out losers? We need some more science around here.
Maken Tosch Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 1591	Posted - 2013.02.18 02:23:00 - [3] - Quote CCP already promised friendly fire will come. Don't worry.
Sigberct Amni ZionTCD Legacy Rising 16	Posted - 2013.02.18 02:25:00 - [4] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: CCP already promised friendly fire will come. Don't worry. Chances are very good that they won't turn on FF inside of instant action matches without some sort of escalating TK penalty. See Planetside 2 for reasons why.
Pent'noir Algintal Core Gallente Federation 61	Posted - 2013.02.18 02:52:00 - [5] - Quote They'd better be very careful on how to implement FF. I can envision many joining instant battles to just kill their own team for giggles. Even if there was a penalty, they would take the time to work it off and then have a few more matches of team killing because that's what is fun to th One solution could be just to not give them any sp or isk if they haven't moved the controller in so long and kick them from the match. I think that would only effect afk'rs because every has to move the controller. Ofcourse, if they are really determined to be an afk'r then they will always find a way. The most I think they can do is make it harder for them to do it.
fred orpaul Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising 211	Posted - 2013.02.18 04:15:00 - [6] - Quote Pent'noir wrote: They'd better be very careful on how to implement FF. I can envision many joining instant battles to just kill their own team for giggles. Even if there was a penalty, they would take the time to work it off and then have a few more matches of team killing because that's what is fun to th One solution could be just to not give them any sp or isk if they haven't moved the controller in so long and kick them from the match. I think that would only effect afk'rs because every has to move the controller. Ofcourse, if they are really determined to be an afk'r then they will always find a way. The most I think they can do is make it harder for them to do it. you are right, they will always find a way, that said the eve method of there is nowhere safe could and should be applied to matches to prevent this. either you get booted from match for being in the MCC over 1min or you get no participation reward while in the red line. I like the last one best there should be no incentive for anything done in the red line.
semperfi1999 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 317	Posted - 2013.02.18 14:40:00 - [7] - Quote If you want to prevent AFK farming its actually really easy. Just make it not worthwhile. IE right now SP it gained at a rate of 5 SP per 1 second in game. That means no matter how well you do the majority of the SP you earn in a single match is simply due to time in game. This leads to AFK farming because you can gain ~75 - 80% of the same amount of SP as someone who played their heart out that match. Solution: Swap the SPs.....make it so that you earn 1 SP for 1 second in battle and 5 SP for 1 WP earned. This means that good players will earn tons of SP in a single match but players who arent as good can still max out their skills by playing alot more total battles. Right now an average skirmish game can net you about 5 - 6K SP just with the time in battle SP gain. That means you would be getting 1000 - 1200 SP for time in battle and then the remaining would depend entirely on how well you do and how many WP you get. Can you completely stop the boosters? No but this would severely limit the AFK leeching in the MCC (which I admit when I get tired of playing but still need to get my SP I will do this on occasion....why? Because its profitable to do it). But if you make is so that you gain almost no SP then there is no point in doing it people would have to keep up with AFK farming for hours to make up what could be obtained in 1 decent match. No incentive as the time put into the AFK farming would not be worthwhile.
mollerz s1ck3r Corp 71	Posted - 2013.02.18 17:08:00 - [8] - Quote I think a penalty should be paid out. 100K for the first TK, 200K for the second, etc. And the money goes to the person you TK'd. It starts getting really hard to have a fun time TKing someone when you are all of a sudden paying him a half million ISK for the privilege. Yet, most people would agree100k to kill some douce in the MCC is well worth it. If you run out of money you get kicked. Also, obviously, have a record of your TKs public so people know to avoid Tk griefers. And for those who think people will run into your fire.. well, you should always be checking your line of fire anyways. You shouldn't be throwing grenades willy nilly, launching Orbs into a group of your own, etc.
Kesi Raae Kaae Much Crying Old Experts 40	Posted - 2013.02.18 17:10:00 - [9] - Quote We should be able to push other players out of the MCC, problem solved.
Barnabas Wrex Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising 147	Posted - 2013.02.18 17:19:00 - [10] - Quote In a free game where some people have absolutely nothing invested, I don't think that they should be able to TK people with millions of ISK in their suits. Maybe friendly fire should do like 1/4 damage, so you would really have to go out of your way to kill people.



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