DUST Search - 4 hits to the body with a low level sniper in mag when full spec'd for it

Sgt S-Laughter wrote:

DarkShadowFox wrote:

omg shut up about mag! This is NOT MAG and NEVER WILL BE MAG. IT WILL NEVER BE COD AND IT WILL NEVER EVER BE COD, BF3 OR MAG, CLEAR?! IT WILL BE DUST514 NOTHING ELSE

EVER

Actually it should be like MAG. It should be as close to MAG as it can in game modes. MAG had amazing game modes that felt awesome and intense, they climaxed when an enemy attacking team was pressing an objective and the defenders rushed to stop them. It didn't matter if you died if you JUST GOT THAT PLANT!!!

That is objective game play, and DUST right now is severely lacking in it.

In fact, right now DUST is more like CoD than MAG, which is very disconcerting... I just have to have faith that this is a beta issue. Zipper didn't let Domi out on the closed beta until the final steps. But still acquisition was 10x skirmish. The two modes we have are both poor representations of what this game NEEDS to show ppl.

I really like how far the economy and out side of game factors are being taken with DUST, but if the game modes don't take this game from a kdr CoD fest into an objective fps like MAG, it's gonna be dead in the water.

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TheMarkOf22 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 41	Posted - 2013.02.17 05:56:00 - [1] - Quote Take notes... You cut the player movement speed in half and kept sniper damage the same. Plus mag had flawless hit detection, this game, not even close. and I've never seen a sniper bullet not register in this game yet.
Baal Roo Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 810	Posted - 2013.02.17 05:58:00 - [2] - Quote In my experience 4 out of 5 sniper shots light up the shields but do no damage. The minute they fix that bug every sniper will be going 30+ kills every match.
Stormy Geddon Imperfects Negative-Feedback 39	Posted - 2013.02.17 06:00:00 - [3] - Quote 4 out of 5 is a little high. It's more like half.
Daddrobit Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION 277	Posted - 2013.02.17 06:04:00 - [4] - Quote TheMarkOf22 wrote: Plus mag had flawless hit detection BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAAAHAHAHAHA sniff sniff ahhhhhhhh that was a good one.
TheMarkOf22 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 41	Posted - 2013.02.17 06:06:00 - [5] - Quote Daddrobit wrote: TheMarkOf22 wrote: Plus mag had flawless hit detection BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAAAHAHAHAHA sniff sniff ahhhhhhhh that was a good one. Emphasis on Had - Pre 2.0
Daddrobit Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION 277	Posted - 2013.02.17 06:09:00 - [6] - Quote TheMarkOf22 wrote: Daddrobit wrote: TheMarkOf22 wrote: Plus mag had flawless hit detection BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAAAHAHAHAHA sniff sniff ahhhhhhhh that was a good one. Emphasis on Had - Pre 2.0 Alright, yeah, it was ok before then.
TheMarkOf22 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 41	Posted - 2013.02.17 06:15:00 - [7] - Quote Daddrobit wrote: TheMarkOf22 wrote: Daddrobit wrote: TheMarkOf22 wrote: Plus mag had flawless hit detection BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAAAHAHAHAHA sniff sniff ahhhhhhhh that was a good one. Emphasis on Had - Pre 2.0 Alright, yeah, it was ok before then. I had no problem dropping people ever pre 2.0 even in Dom Plus this game is only 16v16 and has worse hit detection some how
Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming 641	Posted - 2013.02.17 07:08:00 - [8] - Quote first off, lolMAG Hit detection, or lack of, is amplified by the lag and frame rate issues. Not to mention this blue shield BS. I don't know what to make of that. This build has gone on WAY too long for these things to still be an issue, imo. It's not even a matter of sniper rifle hit detection... I've gotten blue shields at point blank with an HMG! shooting a guy for 1-2 seconds and no dmg. I don't even want to hear this "its a beta" excuse anymore. From the time CCP started taking people's money and not resetting AUR is when simple stuff like this should have been addressed.
Syther Shadows CowTek 7	Posted - 2013.02.17 07:54:00 - [9] - Quote TheMarkOf22 wrote: Take notes... You cut the player movement speed in half and kept sniper damage the same. Plus mag had flawless hit detection, this game, not even close. and I've never seen a sniper bullet not register in this game yet. im sorry but why do people compare dust to mag all the time ? note mag has also been out for a while now where dust 514 is still in beta im not saying mag is a bad game ive never seen or heard of it before so i have no idea what people are talking about or why it is so comparable to dust ? also idk why but ive never had a problem sniping in dust NEVER ive shot a few bullets that miss the players actual model and that lights up the shield it may be your problem there are bugs where if the player stands behind a hill just enough you can't hit them at all but they can see you That also lights up there shields but never have i had lag or experienced any problems with dust but then again im from aus so im use to dealing with 200+ ping in pvp games and dust i would assume is Iceland so usa players might be caught flat footed here idk ~ (most popular games severs are in usa so they are use to perfect ping) maybe its a system in ever that helps lag the if the player receiving does not register it, it does not go through > ? that would explain how i spawned in the middle of there whole team killed 5 of them and literally lived with about 20 Armour left but i was getting fairly big lag spikes that game "i don't normally get them it was weird'
TheMarkOf22 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 41	Posted - 2013.02.17 08:02:00 - [10] - Quote but never have i had lag or experienced any problems with dust '[/quote] You clearly don't know what it is or how it's affecting your gameplay, or your bad enough that it never becomes a factor. I've seen players be invincible for periods of time in dust, something beyond hit detection, possibly broken hit boxes. So this effects everyone equally and their is no avoiding it or lag.

TheMarkOf22 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 41	Posted - 2013.02.17 08:03:00 - [11] - Quote Also MAG is an MMO fps and so is dust, they will forever be compared just like every fps will be compared to COD, simple logic.
Syther Shadows CowTek 7	Posted - 2013.02.17 08:16:00 - [12] - Quote Syther Shadows wrote: but never have i had lag or experienced any problems with dust TheMarkOf22 wrote: You clearly don't know what it is or how it's affecting your gameplay, or your bad enough that it never becomes a factor. I've seen players be invincible for periods of time in dust, something beyond hit detection, possibly broken hit boxes. So this effects everyone equally and their is no avoiding it or lag. when i say lag i mean i pull the trigger the console sends a message to the servers the time it takes to send that message is the lag when i pull the trigger stuff happens i don't have to wait the 0.2 seconds i have to wait in most other games i know dust 514 has a lot of issues but i have never seen them only problems i have legitimately seen is collisions issues walking up a hill and i take damage driving over a small rock i take damage "and this could all be a big misunderstanding" since i could be thous players who never get hit for some reason ~ idk i hear a lot of people complain about it but its not the full community but enough that i think it should have happened to me ? idk maybe ill notice it next time i play who knows also is mag still worth playing ?
HUGO SHTIGLETZ RestlessSpirits 16	Posted - 2013.02.17 08:20:00 - [13] - Quote TheMarkOf22 wrote: Also MAG is an MMO fps and so is dust, they will forever be compared just like every fps will be compared to COD, simple logic. also the fact that its massive and teamwork oriented draws the same crowd so there will be a lot of "well in MAG" type comments... MAG veteran myself... loved that game, DAMN YOU ZIPPER!!!
DarkShadowFox Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 238	Posted - 2013.02.17 08:43:00 - [14] - Quote omg shut up about mag! This is NOT MAG and NEVER WILL BE MAG. IT WILL NEVER BE COD AND IT WILL NEVER EVER BE COD, BF3 OR MAG, CLEAR?! IT WILL BE DUST514 NOTHING ELSE EVER
Syther Shadows CowTek 7	Posted - 2013.02.17 08:45:00 - [15] - Quote DarkShadowFox wrote: omg shut up about mag! This is NOT MAG and NEVER WILL BE MAG. IT WILL NEVER BE COD AND IT WILL NEVER EVER BE COD, BF3 OR MAG, CLEAR?! IT WILL BE DUST514 NOTHING ELSE EVER man this game is a wow clone ******* noobs.
DarkShadowFox Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 238	Posted - 2013.02.17 08:48:00 - [16] - Quote Syther Shadows wrote: DarkShadowFox wrote: omg shut up about mag! This is NOT MAG and NEVER WILL BE MAG. IT WILL NEVER BE COD AND IT WILL NEVER EVER BE COD, BF3 OR MAG, CLEAR?! IT WILL BE DUST514 NOTHING ELSE EVER man this game is a wow clone ******* noobs. Says the person who has to swear in their post, im sorry did you play through the closed beta or come in during open beta? Cause it seems your posting tells me that you haven't been around long enough. Yes im condescending, touch cookies.
HUGO SHTIGLETZ RestlessSpirits 16	Posted - 2013.02.17 08:58:00 - [17] - Quote well, actually ya mags the closest thing to dust there is at least on console so it gonna get compared to it, and yes it actually is very similar just dust is WAY deeper and involving. same player base and concept. granted there is eve guys and other non mag people but every mag player that was even somewhat interested in mag came over to dust instantaneously.
Sgt S-Laughter SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 22	Posted - 2013.02.17 09:00:00 - [18] - Quote DarkShadowFox wrote: omg shut up about mag! This is NOT MAG and NEVER WILL BE MAG. IT WILL NEVER BE COD AND IT WILL NEVER EVER BE COD, BF3 OR MAG, CLEAR?! IT WILL BE DUST514 NOTHING ELSE EVER Actually it should be like MAG. It should be as close to MAG as it can in game modes. MAG had amazing game modes that felt awesome and intense, they climaxed when an enemy attacking team was pressing an objective and the defenders rushed to stop them. It didn't matter if you died if you JUST GOT THAT PLANT!!! That is objective game play, and DUST right now is severely lacking in it. In fact, right now DUST is more like CoD than MAG, which is very disconcerting... I just have to have faith that this is a beta issue. Zipper didn't let Domi out on the closed beta until the final steps. But still acquisition was 10x skirmish. The two modes we have are both poor representations of what this game NEEDS to show ppl. I really like how far the economy and out side of game factors are being taken with DUST, but if the game modes don't take this game from a kdr CoD fest into an objective fps like MAG, it's gonna be dead in the water.
HUGO SHTIGLETZ RestlessSpirits 16	Posted - 2013.02.17 09:04:00 - [19] - Quote Sgt S-Laughter wrote: DarkShadowFox wrote: omg shut up about mag! This is NOT MAG and NEVER WILL BE MAG. IT WILL NEVER BE COD AND IT WILL NEVER EVER BE COD, BF3 OR MAG, CLEAR?! IT WILL BE DUST514 NOTHING ELSE EVER Actually it should be like MAG. It should be as close to MAG as it can in game modes. MAG had amazing game modes that felt awesome and intense, they climaxed when an enemy attacking team was pressing an objective and the defenders rushed to stop them. It didn't matter if you died if you JUST GOT THAT PLANT!!! That is objective game play, and DUST right now is severely lacking in it. In fact, right now DUST is more like CoD than MAG, which is very disconcerting... I just have to have faith that this is a beta issue. Zipper didn't let Domi out on the closed beta until the final steps. But still acquisition was 10x skirmish. The two modes we have are both poor representations of what this game NEEDS to show ppl. I really like how far the economy and out side of game factors are being taken with DUST, but if the game modes don't take this game from a kdr CoD fest into an objective fps like MAG, it's gonna be dead in the water. agreed, looking back on MAGs game modes/maps i loved how well they were designed, it wasnt perfect there were some minor issues with the game but the map design was just awesome.
Syther Shadows CowTek 7	Posted - 2013.02.17 09:08:00 - [20] - Quote DarkShadowFox wrote: Syther Shadows wrote: DarkShadowFox wrote: omg shut up about mag! This is NOT MAG and NEVER WILL BE MAG. IT WILL NEVER BE COD AND IT WILL NEVER EVER BE COD, BF3 OR MAG, CLEAR?! IT WILL BE DUST514 NOTHING ELSE EVER man this game is a wow clone ******* noobs. Says the person who has to swear in their post, im sorry did you play through the closed beta or come in during open beta? Cause it seems your posting tells me that you haven't been around long enough. Yes im condescending, touch cookies. i came in during open beta just watched as much content as i could in closed beta still ive had both ends of the stick in this game and i keep seeing all these mag posts touche the cookies i find that being a closed beta player only makes you more knowledge if the other person does not know how or has not played the game for more than a few hours

HUGO SHTIGLETZ RestlessSpirits 16	Posted - 2013.02.17 09:14:00 - [21] - Quote ok, another example... the learning curve on this game would pretty much make the average COD fan boy commit suicide, where as with a little patience and dedication mag players can figure it out pretty quickly. because its similar concept... the market/skill tree might throw them off for a minute tho.
Syther Shadows CowTek 7	Posted - 2013.02.17 09:47:00 - [22] - Quote HUGO SHTIGLETZ wrote: ok, another example... the learning curve on this game would pretty much make the average COD fan boy commit suicide, where as with a little patience and dedication mag players can figure it out pretty quickly. because its similar concept... the market/skill tree might throw them off for a minute tho. the learning curve was not that hard... but then again i pick up most single player games in about 1 hour most that is one of the thing i love about games though playing it like this for ages then finding out oh wait there is this "2 days in i finally discover the militia section in the shop" so... i don't need to train weapons to use them..... sweet 5 days in discover the M weapon support skills More range on my ar ? YES ! 7 days in discover a active forum filled with tears and tons of cool people YAY IM NO LONGER ALONE ! (but then again it probable would have been best had i not found every one else i do a good job at pissing every one off)
Necrodermis GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 460	Posted - 2013.02.17 09:51:00 - [23] - Quote snipers aren't the only ones with this problem. every weapon seems to do that. i fire tank rounds into a guy running see shield animation and they take no damage a good 25% of the time. forge shots will disappear behind the target constantly.
Sgt S-Laughter SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 22	Posted - 2013.02.17 11:47:00 - [24] - Quote HUGO SHTIGLETZ wrote: ok, another example... the learning curve on this game would pretty much make the average COD fan boy commit suicide, where as with a little patience and dedication mag players can figure it out pretty quickly. because its similar concept... the market/skill tree might throw them off for a minute tho. The market and skill system takes a bit of exploring to figure out. Not too complicated though, just highly specialized. You can't respec either, so I had to make a second char "for real" after blowing points on things that were useless to me. The game modes are brain dead though. These game modes make CoD fans feel right at home. I really hope DUST pulls a real objective game mode out soon :\


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