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Bhor Derri Legion of Eden 95	Posted - 2013.02.14 12:37:00 - [1] - Quote I know there is a ton of threads about this but I ask for a balance , -They are cheap -They frigging home in on vehicles -Anti ARMOR again why do you love shields so much CCP? -Spam spam spam you can get 18 nades with one nanohive -Doesn't take a lot of CPU PG or a important slot Please CCP don't just read this with a blind eye. Thank you.
Vermaak 'Fatal' Kuvakei Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 151	Posted - 2013.02.14 12:41:00 - [2] - Quote Only problem is their homing radius, they should require you to throw somewhere around said vehicle to home in, other than that they're fine
Caeli SineDeo Imperfects Negative-Feedback 294	Posted - 2013.02.14 12:46:00 - [3] - Quote Bhor Derri wrote: I know there is a ton of threads about this but I ask for a balance , -They are cheap -They frigging home in on vehicles -Anti ARMOR again why do you love shields so much CCP? -Spam spam spam you can get 18 nades with one nanohive -Doesn't take a lot of CPU PG or a important slot Please CCP don't just read this with a blind eye. Thank you. Flux are way more devistating to shields. They pass by resist and everything. Ya sorry but they are not kinder to shields. Just peoples av of choice is av nades because of there ease of use.
Irish Syn Chernova Industries 123	Posted - 2013.02.14 12:48:00 - [4] - Quote Basic ones hardly do any damage against well armored vehicles, so it's not that bad. Plus they do take up an important slot, the grenade slot. If you have an AV grenade, you don't have a locus grenade if you need a quick infantry kill in a tight situation. If you have an AV grenade, you don't have flux grenades if you need to wipe out shields. Which brings up another point, shields only seem so good because of the lack of people using flux grenades. These things have a huge blast radius and can wipe out your shields seemingly regardless of how high you have them. I've run across a few heavies which apparently went all shield tanking instead of armor tanking, a quick flux grenade in their general vicinity and shields are gun, then just a few shots and they drop pretty fast. Works well against HAV's as well.
steadyhand amarr Imperfects Negative-Feedback 338	Posted - 2013.02.14 12:53:00 - [5] - Quote Problem is with user. Try building tanks and vercs to the reality of game and not how feel the game should be. Secondly if ur close enough to get by A/V nades and don't have inf support u have made a mistake. A/V nades provide an effective counter to verc spam and are easily countered with smart thinking
Reout Karaal Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 51	Posted - 2013.02.14 13:37:00 - [6] - Quote Yeah. Packed AVs do nothing to buffed STD tanks. I'm thinking about skilling up grenadier, but damn, crying for AV nades nerf is stupid. Hell! To get my STD LAV out you need two Packed AVs at once, otherwise I will rep. This is just silly. What do you want to nerf, they're already MLT-only counter. Also prox explosives are pointless currently. Buff needed here.
Scheneighnay McBob Bojo's School of the Trades 1058	Posted - 2013.02.14 23:09:00 - [7] - Quote It's not that they're homing grenades- it's that they're HOMING IMPACT GRENADES
Y0UR NAME HERE Imperfects Negative-Feedback 441	Posted - 2013.02.14 23:17:00 - [8] - Quote Irish Syn wrote: Basic ones hardly do any damage against well armored vehicles, so it's not that bad. Plus they do take up an important slot, the grenade slot. If you have an AV grenade, you don't have a locus grenade if you need a quick infantry kill in a tight situation. If you have an AV grenade, you don't have flux grenades if you need to wipe out shields. Which brings up another point, shields only seem so good because of the lack of people using flux grenades. These things have a huge blast radius and can wipe out your shields seemingly regardless of how high you have them. I've run across a few heavies which apparently went all shield tanking instead of armor tanking, a quick flux grenade in their general vicinity and shields are gun, then just a few shots and they drop pretty fast. Works well against HAV's as well. My AV nades eat shields just fine, I have no idea what your talkin about bro lol. Gunnlogi is snack time with AV Nades.
Irish Syn Chernova Industries 123	Posted - 2013.02.15 00:08:00 - [9] - Quote Y0UR NAME HERE wrote: Irish Syn wrote: Basic ones hardly do any damage against well armored vehicles, so it's not that bad. Plus they do take up an important slot, the grenade slot. If you have an AV grenade, you don't have a locus grenade if you need a quick infantry kill in a tight situation. If you have an AV grenade, you don't have flux grenades if you need to wipe out shields. Which brings up another point, shields only seem so good because of the lack of people using flux grenades. These things have a huge blast radius and can wipe out your shields seemingly regardless of how high you have them. I've run across a few heavies which apparently went all shield tanking instead of armor tanking, a quick flux grenade in their general vicinity and shields are gun, then just a few shots and they drop pretty fast. Works well against HAV's as well. My AV nades eat shields just fine, I have no idea what your talkin about bro lol. Gunnlogi is snack time with AV Nades. What AV grenades are you using? And what vehicles are you going against? I don't have over 3 million SP already like all you IMPs so I'm still using the basic AV grenades, but the proto ones do about 1.5 times the damage if I recall? Haven't checked in awhile so please correct me if I'm wrong. Anyways I've ran across some tanks where my AV grenades barely nudged them. Not sure that extra bit of damage would of really mattered. So quite frankly, I have no idea what you're (correct usage) talkin about bro "lol"
Michael Cratar Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire 179	Posted - 2013.02.15 00:12:00 - [10] - Quote Bhor Derri wrote: I know there is a ton of threads about this but I ask for a balance , -They are cheap -They frigging home in on vehicles -Anti ARMOR again why do you love shields so much CCP? -Spam spam spam you can get 18 nades with one nanohive -Doesn't take a lot of CPU PG or a important slot Please CCP don't just read this with a blind eye. Thank you. They are really only good for taking out cars. Taking out a tank with them is a pain, unless you are using militia.

Y0UR NAME HERE Imperfects Negative-Feedback 441	Posted - 2013.02.15 00:24:00 - [11] - Quote Irish Syn wrote: Y0UR NAME HERE wrote: Irish Syn wrote: Basic ones hardly do any damage against well armored vehicles, so it's not that bad. Plus they do take up an important slot, the grenade slot. If you have an AV grenade, you don't have a locus grenade if you need a quick infantry kill in a tight situation. If you have an AV grenade, you don't have flux grenades if you need to wipe out shields. Which brings up another point, shields only seem so good because of the lack of people using flux grenades. These things have a huge blast radius and can wipe out your shields seemingly regardless of how high you have them. I've run across a few heavies which apparently went all shield tanking instead of armor tanking, a quick flux grenade in their general vicinity and shields are gun, then just a few shots and they drop pretty fast. Works well against HAV's as well. My AV nades eat shields just fine, I have no idea what your talkin about bro lol. Gunnlogi is snack time with AV Nades. What AV grenades are you using? And what vehicles are you going against? I don't have over 3 million SP already like all you IMPs so I'm still using the basic AV grenades, but the proto ones do about 1.5 times the damage if I recall? Haven't checked in awhile so please correct me if I'm wrong. Anyways I've ran across some tanks where my AV grenades barely nudged them. Not sure that extra bit of damage would of really mattered. So quite frankly, I have no idea what you're (correct usage) talkin about bro "lol" Standard AV nades and Swarms vs Gunnlogi at 6k buffer. nom nom.
DJINN leukoplast Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 288	Posted - 2013.02.15 00:59:00 - [12] - Quote I just started using AV nades the other day on my assault suit, and boy do I love them! No longer am I at the mercy of those annoying gnats known as LAV's, in fact I get all giddy when I am running my AV nade suit and somebody pulls out a LAV on the enemy team I absolutely love luring them in by taking a couple shots at their car to get their attention, then as they approach thinking they are getting a easy run-over kill or heavy pop-out routine, BOOM! Even if a heavy jumps out, the explosion hurts them big time, which puts them on almost equal ground for a close-range 1v1 against my Gek. AV nades are a great way for regular infantry to still have a gun-game but get decent AV capability without giving up their light weapon slot for a swarm (nothings worse than getting stuck with swarms, no vehicles, and no way to change out suits). But they also sacrifice the ability to use regular nades, which for me is hard to get used to since I really love a properly cooked nade at the foot of a heavy. LAV's are really the only ones super vulnerable to AV nades, and perhaps cowardly tank drivers who bring one in a ambush match (for which they deserve to be massacred by AV nades). Sadly tankers can mostly get away unscathed in this situation, that is until players start making a habit of creating an alt suit that has AV nades over their infantry-killing preference. AV vs tank in skirmish is a lot less useful, and seems to be better at getting a tank to back off to let the real AV players take care of them.
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising 886	Posted - 2013.02.15 01:16:00 - [13] - Quote Vermaak 'Fatal' Kuvakei wrote: Only problem is their homing radius, they should require you to throw somewhere around said vehicle to home in, other than that they're fine You are required to throw them around the vehicle...they have a seeking radius. And the more powerful the grenade, the lower the seek radius. AV grenades are perfectly fine. I'm tired of hearing guys complain about an anti-vehicle weapon that is effective against vehicles. If you get solo'ed by AV grenades then it is your own fault for standing their and taking it like Jenna Jameson
The legend345 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 73	Posted - 2013.02.15 01:26:00 - [14] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Vermaak 'Fatal' Kuvakei wrote: Only problem is their homing radius, they should require you to throw somewhere around said vehicle to home in, other than that they're fine You are required to throw them around the vehicle...they have a seeking radius. And the more powerful the grenade, the lower the seek radius. AV grenades are perfectly fine. I'm tired of hearing guys complain about an anti-vehicle weapon that is effective against vehicles. If you get solo'ed by AV grenades then it is your own fault for standing their and taking it like Jenna Jameson LOL ive seen your montages there too easy to use. So our swarms lol.
Y0UR NAME HERE Imperfects Negative-Feedback 441	Posted - 2013.02.15 01:27:00 - [15] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Vermaak 'Fatal' Kuvakei wrote: Only problem is their homing radius, they should require you to throw somewhere around said vehicle to home in, other than that they're fine You are required to throw them around the vehicle...they have a seeking radius. And the more powerful the grenade, the lower the seek radius. AV grenades are perfectly fine. I'm tired of hearing guys complain about an anti-vehicle weapon that is effective against vehicles. If you get solo'ed by AV grenades then it is your own fault for standing their and taking it like Jenna Jameson Tanks dont move that fast bro, you got kids running their LAVs to your tank from the side or behind jumping out after letting the LAV ram you first, then chucking as many AV nades as the full LAV could. Same problem with swarms as AV nades, it doesnt take any skill whatsoever, you just lock and shoot from 500m away or you just chuck and seek. Wheres my auto tank weapons that auto seek AV users?
The legend345 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 73	Posted - 2013.02.15 01:37:00 - [16] - Quote Y0UR NAME HERE wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Vermaak 'Fatal' Kuvakei wrote: Only problem is their homing radius, they should require you to throw somewhere around said vehicle to home in, other than that they're fine You are required to throw them around the vehicle...they have a seeking radius. And the more powerful the grenade, the lower the seek radius. AV grenades are perfectly fine. I'm tired of hearing guys complain about an anti-vehicle weapon that is effective against vehicles. If you get solo'ed by AV grenades then it is your own fault for standing their and taking it like Jenna Jameson Tanks dont move that fast bro, you got kids running their LAVs to your tank from the side or behind jumping out after letting the LAV ram you first, then chucking as many AV nades as the full LAV could. Same problem with swarms as AV nades, it doesnt take any skill whatsoever, you just lock and shoot from 500m away or you just chuck and seek. Wheres my auto tank weapons that auto seek AV users? LOL at how strong proto AV is. Its just pathetic
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising 886	Posted - 2013.02.15 01:38:00 - [17] - Quote The legend345 wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Vermaak 'Fatal' Kuvakei wrote: Only problem is their homing radius, they should require you to throw somewhere around said vehicle to home in, other than that they're fine You are required to throw them around the vehicle...they have a seeking radius. And the more powerful the grenade, the lower the seek radius. AV grenades are perfectly fine. I'm tired of hearing guys complain about an anti-vehicle weapon that is effective against vehicles. If you get solo'ed by AV grenades then it is your own fault for standing their and taking it like Jenna Jameson LOL ive seen your montages there too easy to use. So our swarms lol. Lol too easy to use?? They're grenades...all you have to do is throw them. Are they supposed to have a scope on them or a camera sight :D? AV grenades are our only defense against guys driving LAVs all around you. On the occasion, I don't have AVs, I'll have a LAV literally backing up and maneuvering to hit me until he does.
The legend345 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 73	Posted - 2013.02.15 01:39:00 - [18] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: The legend345 wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Vermaak 'Fatal' Kuvakei wrote: Only problem is their homing radius, they should require you to throw somewhere around said vehicle to home in, other than that they're fine You are required to throw them around the vehicle...they have a seeking radius. And the more powerful the grenade, the lower the seek radius. AV grenades are perfectly fine. I'm tired of hearing guys complain about an anti-vehicle weapon that is effective against vehicles. If you get solo'ed by AV grenades then it is your own fault for standing their and taking it like Jenna Jameson LOL ive seen your montages there too easy to use. So our swarms lol. Lol too easy to use?? They're grenades...all you have to do is throw them. Are they supposed to have a scope on them or a camera sight :D? They shouldnt have any homing.... Like you said they're grenades
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising 886	Posted - 2013.02.15 01:47:00 - [19] - Quote Y0UR NAME HERE wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Vermaak 'Fatal' Kuvakei wrote: Only problem is their homing radius, they should require you to throw somewhere around said vehicle to home in, other than that they're fine You are required to throw them around the vehicle...they have a seeking radius. And the more powerful the grenade, the lower the seek radius. AV grenades are perfectly fine. I'm tired of hearing guys complain about an anti-vehicle weapon that is effective against vehicles. If you get solo'ed by AV grenades then it is your own fault for standing their and taking it like Jenna Jameson Tanks dont move that fast bro, you got kids running their LAVs to your tank from the side or behind jumping out after letting the LAV ram you first, then chucking as many AV nades as the full LAV could. Same problem with swarms as AV nades, it doesnt take any skill whatsoever, you just lock and shoot from 500m away or you just chuck and seek. Wheres my auto tank weapons that auto seek AV users? You're joking about requiring skill, right? They work as intended....they were never weapons that required to use skill. You know where the skill is?? Staying alive while you're using them to destroy tanks
The legend345 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 73	Posted - 2013.02.15 02:00:00 - [20] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Y0UR NAME HERE wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Vermaak 'Fatal' Kuvakei wrote: Only problem is their homing radius, they should require you to throw somewhere around said vehicle to home in, other than that they're fine You are required to throw them around the vehicle...they have a seeking radius. And the more powerful the grenade, the lower the seek radius. AV grenades are perfectly fine. I'm tired of hearing guys complain about an anti-vehicle weapon that is effective against vehicles. If you get solo'ed by AV grenades then it is your own fault for standing their and taking it like Jenna Jameson Tanks dont move that fast bro, you got kids running their LAVs to your tank from the side or behind jumping out after letting the LAV ram you first, then chucking as many AV nades as the full LAV could. Same problem with swarms as AV nades, it doesnt take any skill whatsoever, you just lock and shoot from 500m away or you just chuck and seek. Wheres my auto tank weapons that auto seek AV users? You're joking about requiring skill, right? They work as intended....they were never weapons that required to use skill. You know where the skill is?? Staying alive while you're using them to destroy tanks Teach me how to drop a nanohive and spam them in the air behind cover while they track for you PLEASE TEACH ME. Or how to lock on behind cover with the swarms please. Its to hard for me :/

Thumb Green Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 21	Posted - 2013.02.15 02:06:00 - [21] - Quote The legend345 wrote: They shouldnt have any homing.... Like you said they're grenades Grenades with magnets in them.
Irish Syn Chernova Industries 123	Posted - 2013.02.15 02:08:00 - [22] - Quote Why must everything require skill? Are you really that desperate to prove you are the best internet space mercenary? Having weapon that are more about being in the right place at the right time are just as viable an option as weapons that require manual aiming. Sure you can equip a swarm launcher and AV grenades to a suit, but it's not going to do jack squat if you just stand around and straight up charging will get you killed every time.
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising 886	Posted - 2013.02.15 02:12:00 - [23] - Quote The legend345 wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Y0UR NAME HERE wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Vermaak 'Fatal' Kuvakei wrote: Only problem is their homing radius, they should require you to throw somewhere around said vehicle to home in, other than that they're fine You are required to throw them around the vehicle...they have a seeking radius. And the more powerful the grenade, the lower the seek radius. AV grenades are perfectly fine. I'm tired of hearing guys complain about an anti-vehicle weapon that is effective against vehicles. If you get solo'ed by AV grenades then it is your own fault for standing their and taking it like Jenna Jameson Tanks dont move that fast bro, you got kids running their LAVs to your tank from the side or behind jumping out after letting the LAV ram you first, then chucking as many AV nades as the full LAV could. Same problem with swarms as AV nades, it doesnt take any skill whatsoever, you just lock and shoot from 500m away or you just chuck and seek. Wheres my auto tank weapons that auto seek AV users? You're joking about requiring skill, right? They work as intended....they were never weapons that required to use skill. You know where the skill is?? Staying alive while you're using them to destroy tanks Teach me how to drop a nanohive and spam them in the air behind cover while they track for you PLEASE TEACH ME. Or how to lock on behind cover with the swarms please. Its to hard for me :/ you know how many helpless swarm launchers that I'll smoke? Swarm launchers has to worry about infantry killing them so easily. And getting close enough to a tank with AV grenades is not easy. A nub tank driver....sure, you can get to him easy. But tankers like Sir Meode, etc.....it isn't easy to run up on them, especially when they have gunners. And like I've said before....any tank driver that allows one guy to chuck 6 grenades at him deserves to get his tank delivered
The legend345 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 73	Posted - 2013.02.15 02:12:00 - [24] - Quote Irish Syn wrote: Why must everything require skill? Are you really that desperate to prove you are the best internet space mercenary? Having weapon that are more about being in the right place at the right time are just as viable an option as weapons that require manual aiming. Sure you can equip a swarm launcher and AV grenades to a suit, but it's not going to do jack squat if you just stand around and straight up charging will get you killed every time. So your argument is if you run around like a noob there not that good? Its the same with everything
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising 886	Posted - 2013.02.15 02:17:00 - [25] - Quote Thumb Green wrote: The legend345 wrote: They shouldnt have any homing.... Like you said they're grenades Grenades with magnets in them. Why shouldn't they home? That's almost as catty as saying, infantry shouldn't get killed by splash damage. Everything should be a direct hit
Y0UR NAME HERE Imperfects Negative-Feedback 441	Posted - 2013.02.15 02:21:00 - [26] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Y0UR NAME HERE wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Vermaak 'Fatal' Kuvakei wrote: Only problem is their homing radius, they should require you to throw somewhere around said vehicle to home in, other than that they're fine You are required to throw them around the vehicle...they have a seeking radius. And the more powerful the grenade, the lower the seek radius. AV grenades are perfectly fine. I'm tired of hearing guys complain about an anti-vehicle weapon that is effective against vehicles. If you get solo'ed by AV grenades then it is your own fault for standing their and taking it like Jenna Jameson Tanks dont move that fast bro, you got kids running their LAVs to your tank from the side or behind jumping out after letting the LAV ram you first, then chucking as many AV nades as the full LAV could. Same problem with swarms as AV nades, it doesnt take any skill whatsoever, you just lock and shoot from 500m away or you just chuck and seek. Wheres my auto tank weapons that auto seek AV users? You're joking about requiring skill, right? They work as intended....they were never weapons that required to use skill. You know where the skill is?? Staying alive while you're using them to destroy tanks what the dude said above, with my AV swarm fit i can still take down heavys with HMG's. Called a submachine gun and skill.
The legend345 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 73	Posted - 2013.02.15 02:23:00 - [27] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Thumb Green wrote: The legend345 wrote: They shouldnt have any homing.... Like you said they're grenades Grenades with magnets in them. Why shouldn't they home? That's almost as catty as saying, infantry shouldn't get killed by splash damage. Everything should be a direct hit ??? They should just work like the locus.
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising 886	Posted - 2013.02.15 02:30:00 - [28] - Quote Y0UR NAME HERE wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Y0UR NAME HERE wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Vermaak 'Fatal' Kuvakei wrote: Only problem is their homing radius, they should require you to throw somewhere around said vehicle to home in, other than that they're fine You are required to throw them around the vehicle...they have a seeking radius. And the more powerful the grenade, the lower the seek radius. AV grenades are perfectly fine. I'm tired of hearing guys complain about an anti-vehicle weapon that is effective against vehicles. If you get solo'ed by AV grenades then it is your own fault for standing their and taking it like Jenna Jameson Tanks dont move that fast bro, you got kids running their LAVs to your tank from the side or behind jumping out after letting the LAV ram you first, then chucking as many AV nades as the full LAV could. Same problem with swarms as AV nades, it doesnt take any skill whatsoever, you just lock and shoot from 500m away or you just chuck and seek. Wheres my auto tank weapons that auto seek AV users? You're joking about requiring skill, right? They work as intended....they were never weapons that required to use skill. You know where the skill is?? Staying alive while you're using them to destroy tanks what the dude said above, with my AV swarm fit i can still take down heavys with HMG's. Called a submachine gun and skill. In order for your smg to be effective...you'd have to be close and you'll lose a 1v1 to a GOOD heavy more times than you'll win. And the same with an AR as they'll shoot you from a distance..especially if you're trying to use the swarm
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising 886	Posted - 2013.02.15 02:33:00 - [29] - Quote The legend345 wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Thumb Green wrote: The legend345 wrote: They shouldnt have any homing.... Like you said they're grenades Grenades with magnets in them. Why shouldn't they home? That's almost as catty as saying, infantry shouldn't get killed by splash damage. Everything should be a direct hit ??? They should just work like the locus. It makes sense that they don't because maybe the antivehicle grenades are built with high power magnets or heat seek or something. That's why they're duds against infantry
The legend345 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 73	Posted - 2013.02.15 02:34:00 - [30] - Quote In order for your smg to be effective...you'd have to be close and you'll lose a 1v1 to a GOOD heavy more times than you'll win. And the same with an AR as they'll shoot you from a distance..especially if you're trying to use the swarm[/quote] Whats your point youll lose to a "good" heavy at close range with any weapon but a shotgun and even thats a maybe if its a "good" heavy....

The legend345 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 73	Posted - 2013.02.15 02:35:00 - [31] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: The legend345 wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Thumb Green wrote: The legend345 wrote: They shouldnt have any homing.... Like you said they're grenades Grenades with magnets in them. Why shouldn't they home? That's almost as catty as saying, infantry shouldn't get killed by splash damage. Everything should be a direct hit ??? They should just work like the locus. It makes sense that they don't because maybe the antivehicle grenades are built with high power magnets or heat seek or something. That's why they're duds against infantry It makes sence becuase thats what there meant to do. Im saying i dont like what there meant to do as far as the magnet works
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising 886	Posted - 2013.02.15 02:51:00 - [32] - Quote Ohh ok that's cool then......you're entitled to not like AVs. I don't like tanks
The legend345 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 73	Posted - 2013.02.15 03:02:00 - [33] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Ohh ok that's cool then......you're entitled to not like AVs. I don't like tanks Agreed
Patoman Radiant ZionTCD Legacy Rising 53	Posted - 2013.02.15 03:12:00 - [34] - Quote Y0UR NAME HERE wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Vermaak 'Fatal' Kuvakei wrote: Only problem is their homing radius, they should require you to throw somewhere around said vehicle to home in, other than that they're fine You are required to throw them around the vehicle...they have a seeking radius. And the more powerful the grenade, the lower the seek radius. AV grenades are perfectly fine. I'm tired of hearing guys complain about an anti-vehicle weapon that is effective against vehicles. If you get solo'ed by AV grenades then it is your own fault for standing their and taking it like Jenna Jameson Tanks dont move that fast bro, you got kids running their LAVs to your tank from the side or behind jumping out after letting the LAV ram you first, then chucking as many AV nades as the full LAV could. Same problem with swarms as AV nades, it doesnt take any skill whatsoever, you just lock and shoot from 500m away or you just chuck and seek. Wheres my auto tank weapons that auto seek AV users? You call yourself a imperfect? If they got a LAV, that is a big juicy target, I pop them with rails (long) and blasters (short), at least one kill, if not more (plus the points for the LAV itself almost as much as a norm kill). A LAV was coming up against my MILLTA tank, turned my turret 180, one shot (improve drive aiming), boom. Of course crashing into them works too, idiots on my own team can't seem to stop doing it. LAVs move fast, they are much easyer to hit though than infantry with the tiny area affect of rails, and the huge spread of blasters. You have to get close to a tank to use AV nades, on a big map that is no easy task.
Blondie Roads Imperfects Negative-Feedback 7	Posted - 2013.02.15 04:02:00 - [35] - Quote At the end of the day, your run of the mill infantry has to have a way to deter or discorage a tank from being in your area. Maybe a new mechanic is needed but if the only answer to tanks is pure AV then, armor is broken. No one should be impervious to dmg whith only one counter. Homming range could be tweeked, but av nade are a must.
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising 886	Posted - 2013.02.15 04:58:00 - [36] - Quote Blondie Roads wrote: At the end of the day, your run of the mill infantry has to have a way to deter or discorage a tank from being in your area. Maybe a new mechanic is needed but if the only answer to tanks is pure AV then, armor is broken. No one should be impervious to dmg whith only one counter. Homming range could be tweeked, but av nade are a must. Homing range is fine...no need for a tweek. The most powerful nades have the smallest seek range. Many times, you miss with them


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