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Deadeyes Anterie
Crimson Ravens Talons
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.02.12 13:43:00 -
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I always try to weaken up fully spec'ed tanks before I bring the orbital, is this pointless or is it possible to survive an orbital? |
Vaerana Myshtana
ScIdama
Endless Renaissance
202
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Posted - 2013.02.12 13:45:00 -
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I have seen them survive, though usually these were higher-tier tanks on the edge of the radius. |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2013.02.12 13:45:00 -
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uhm some strikes are going to be shooting shells larger than the MCC itself later on.
You look at the MCC now, and that is how large the inside the dreadnaught XL gun barrel is. |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
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Posted - 2013.02.12 13:47:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:uhm some strikes are going to be shooting shells larger than the MCC itself later on.
i assume hes talkin about warbarge strikes and not EVE strikes
@OP yes they can, my tank can easily survive an OB |
Vaerana Myshtana
ScIdama
Endless Renaissance
202
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Posted - 2013.02.12 13:50:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:uhm some strikes are going to be shooting shells larger than the MCC itself later on.
You look at the MCC now, and that is how large the inside the dreadnaught XL gun barrel is.
Um, not exactly:
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Item_Database:Ship_Equipment:Turrets_&_Bays:Hybrid_Turrets:Railguns:Extra_Large
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Item_Database:Ship_Equipment:Turrets_&_Bays:Projectile_Turrets:Artillery_Cannons:Extra_Large
The inside of the barrel on a Dreadnaught XL hybrid turret is big enough for you to crawl into, about 1m in diameter. A Dreadnaught's projectile turret is large enough to run down the barrel, about 3.5m in diameter.
Neither is big enough to stuff an MCC into.
Now, a Titan's Doomsday Device.... THAT might be bigger than an MCC. |
Deadeyes Anterie
Crimson Ravens Talons
RISE of LEGION
269
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Posted - 2013.02.12 13:56:00 -
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Mavado V Noriega wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:uhm some strikes are going to be shooting shells larger than the MCC itself later on. i assume hes talkin about warbarge strikes and not EVE strikes @OP yes they can, my tank can easily survive an OB
Ok thanks I was ducking and diving today in a match to get 3 packed AV nades into dark clouds tank before I called in the orbital. It was very satisfying taking him down after dodging 5 particle blasts. I just wasn't sure if I was making a fool out of myself for no reason or if it was required to blow him up. His shields would have taken about 7 packed AV's to break so I figured it would survive an orbital at full hp. |
the BAD FurrY
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
37
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Posted - 2013.02.12 13:56:00 -
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Deadeyes Anterie wrote:I always try to weaken up fully spec'ed tanks before I bring the orbital, is this pointless or is it possible to survive an orbital?
No and yes
a NPC ob a armor tank can with the rite fit
a sheild tank can if its luck.
a real OB from a EVE players can do EM and Therm and kin and exp
its all about what guns and ammo on it seeing how there 1 OB ammo out there
then Gal = Therm and kin
CAR = kin and therm
AMR = EM and Therm
MIN = Kin and exp
the OB dmg is base off of (as of rite now) how meny guns 1 - 8 |
Ire's thug
GunFall Mobilization
Covert Intervention
272
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Posted - 2013.02.12 14:08:00 -
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The answer is yes. Muragdur with a passive/active resistance plating plus a good heavy armor rep - you can tank OB's. I've done it several times each time I was on fire when it stopped but thankfully the armor rep is just a little longer then the OB.
Fu*k mobility! Gallente tanks for life yo! |
Stryker Battalion
Eyniletti Rangers
Minmatar Republic
2
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Posted - 2013.02.24 02:12:00 -
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I was looking for a answer on this as well. As a new HAV driver (only about 1.3M) I can generally keep myself from getting popped from infantry by staying mobile and playing cautiously. However, I get an OB placed on my tank about every match and even running the cheap versions I cannot seem to come out ahead. I'm a shield tanker so from what has been stated above I'm pretty much screwed? Do I need to switch to armor tanking? |
Bruce3 Wayne3
Seraphim Auxiliaries
CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.02.24 02:19:00 -
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Well OBs kill shield tanks fairly easily I believe unless it gets out of the blast zone quickly.
Armour tanks however can survive the full OB without moving if they're spec'd right but are very vulnerable after, but if the armour tanks damaged and stationary than its as good as dead.
Oh and as a last suggestion.... Try flux grenades vs shield tanks, it'll eliminate all their shields quicker than anything but the OB. |
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Y0UR NAME HERE
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
443
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Posted - 2013.02.24 03:38:00 -
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My mad can survive, but all hardners and reps must be on,
Doesn't matter much, I've had 5 orbitals called in on my tank in one game,
If a teams AV skills are lacking they'll resort to WP farming, they don't even care if there's 0 infantry around you.
They will hunt your tank and you will die,
95% of my tank losses are from OB's.
You have to slow down and make a sharp turn sometime right? |
Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
583
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Posted - 2013.02.24 07:43:00 -
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Armor HAVs have significantly more HP than Shield HAVs. However they are slower and more vulnerable to Infantry AV.
I've seen some special fits of Shield HAVs rep though an OB but not a true direct hit. Your best bet as a shield HAV is to just haul ass away from where you are as soon as you hear the sound and pray you get out of the range before it hits directly.
As for Armor HAVs, certain kinds can buffer tank through a semi direct hit, most can rep through a direct hit.
Each type has its advantages, so I would not say you've made a bad choice with shield tanking, you're just a bit weake against OBs. |
Bruce3 Wayne3
Seraphim Auxiliaries
CRONOS.
10
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Posted - 2013.02.24 11:38:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:Armor HAVs have significantly more HP than Shield HAVs. However they are slower and more vulnerable to Infantry AV.
I've seen some special fits of Shield HAVs rep though an OB but not a true direct hit. Your best bet as a shield HAV is to just haul ass away from where you are as soon as you hear the sound and pray you get out of the range before it hits directly.
As for Armor HAVs, certain kinds can buffer tank through a semi direct hit, most can rep through a direct hit.
Each type has its advantages, so I would not say you've made a bad choice with shield tanking, you're just a bit weake against OBs.
yh but shield tankings much better against AV nades and swarmers with mobility aswell so its very fare.
a good armour tank can survive direct OBs while keeping stationary whereas a shield tank can get out of the area b4 its death, either way, both tanks need to b very healthy, pricey and become vulnerable |
The Medic Droid
Quiet Star Enterprise
7
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Posted - 2013.02.24 13:11:00 -
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I have been within a tank that survived an Orbital....but did not survive the two Forge Gunners afterwards. |
cranium79
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
38
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Posted - 2013.02.24 14:02:00 -
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i was in a shield tank with a corp mate a little bit ago. it had like 6000 shield. he hit the hardener soon as he heard the strike coming and survived very easily. in fact we survived several OBSs over several games that night. he said that each strike beam puts out x amount of hp (he told me, but i forget), so if he stays still and hits the hardener, he survives all the time. the strike only hits the tank like 4 times or so, so if you don't move around, you are only hit a few times. if you run, you run the risk of getting hit by more beams and will die. |
SGT Garrisson
On The Brink
60
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Posted - 2013.02.24 14:12:00 -
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ive survived and OB with a well fit soma this may have been luck or good placement on the field i had 10% armor left
soon as i heard the OB sound i activated the repper (best named one) if i hadnt i would probly have died
5200 armor with 20% resists 1500 shields 10% resist |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
1058
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Posted - 2013.02.24 15:21:00 -
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No player owned stuff atm can survive a direct hit.
As far as just being in the area, I've survived it before in a good LAV |
Takahiro Kashuken
Intara Direct Action
Caldari State
102
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Posted - 2013.02.24 15:25:00 -
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Ive had a couple of shield tanks escape an OB
Prob was lucky tbh
Armor i dunno since im so slow, it can be hit and miss
What does it for me is that the OB is an instant hit as soon as its called in meaning no time to activate everything it seems |
slap26
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
RISE of LEGION
462
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Posted - 2013.02.24 15:31:00 -
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armor can tank one
but if your going shield you need a sagaris to even have a chance of tanking a free strike, if your lucky a gunnlogi might miraculously survive.
Free Precision Strikes are a broken mechanic at the moment |
Takahiro Kashuken
Intara Direct Action
Caldari State
102
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Posted - 2013.02.24 15:42:00 -
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slap26 wrote:armor can tank one
but if your going shield you need a sagaris to even have a chance of tanking a free strike, if your lucky a gunnlogi might miraculously survive.
Free Precision Strikes are a broken mechanic at the moment
For me its not that they are free thats the problem its that they instantly hit with no warning
Even in MAG we had warnings for like 5seconds
When an EVE pilot puts an OB in they have to wait till it hits, but the WBS is instant |
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Spkr4theDead
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
22
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Posted - 2013.02.24 17:06:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:uhm some strikes are going to be shooting shells larger than the MCC itself later on.
You look at the MCC now, and that is how large the inside the dreadnaught XL gun barrel is.
If the barrel is that large, you're talking about a ship as large as or larger than a planet. Is that how big they are in EVE? |
Spkr4theDead
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
22
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Posted - 2013.02.24 17:09:00 -
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Now you're talking!
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GetShotUp
UnReaL.
85
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Posted - 2013.02.24 17:39:00 -
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I love watching tanks get destroyed by orbs. |
Ascythian
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
10
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Posted - 2013.02.24 18:25:00 -
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EVE Amarr Battleship, Dreadnaut & Titan in Crysis
Thats a few years old and disregarding any size alterations the eve devs made, possibly still relevant.
Also this - More ship sizes |
Scalesdini
Universal Allies Inc.
58
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Posted - 2013.02.24 18:36:00 -
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Who cares about a tank, my heavy suit can survive orbital strikes. |
Marston VC
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
92
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Posted - 2013.02.24 19:00:00 -
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Mavado V Noriega wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:uhm some strikes are going to be shooting shells larger than the MCC itself later on. i assume hes talkin about warbarge strikes and not EVE strikes @OP yes they can, my tank can easily survive an OB
hes telling the truth |
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