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Bigglesworth McQueen On The Brink 43	Posted - 2013.02.11 10:20:00 - [1] - Quote Since the maintenance last Tuesday, nearly 1 full week ago, I have managed to earn and spend the following SP points. Shield Boost Systems: 310,920 Shield Control: 74,610 Shield Enhancements: 136,000 That was with both an active and a passive booster and I'm yet to hit my cap of a maximum 1000sp (1500sp with active booster?) per match, depending on score. Since the weekly cap was implemented on a Tuesday, am I right to think that it will be reset during Tuesdays maintenance or has it already been reset without my knowledge? I could be wrong but I thought the cap was around 190k, and with both types of boosters, should only gain 100%. That's 380k, right? Even then, I've exceeded the cap and I'm still gaining 4-7k per game, so still not being limited. I doubt anyone else who's experiencing this bug(?) will come forward, out of fear of getting all those hours of grinding taken away, but this is clearly giving me ample opportunity to surpass those who have been capped. Could a dev please confirm that I have accumulated over double the allowed SP this week.
Musta Tornius BetaMax. 265	Posted - 2013.02.11 10:58:00 - [2] - Quote Reset is on Wednesday's downtime though and I do believe it was reset last Wednesday even though the SP cap was changed on a Tuesday. So this might be why you seemingly have extra SP to get.
Bigglesworth McQueen On The Brink 43	Posted - 2013.02.11 11:03:00 - [3] - Quote Musta Tornius wrote: Reset is on Wednesday's downtime though and I do believe it was reset last Wednesday even though the SP cap was changed on a Tuesday. So this might be why you seemingly have extra SP to get. But with reset only the day after the cap was introduced, for me to earn what I have now, I would have had to have gotten 190k before reset. I know for a fact I did not do this, not by a long shot.
Django Quik R.I.f.t 220	Posted - 2013.02.11 11:34:00 - [4] - Quote Without boosters you earn ~24k SP passive per day and up to 190k SP active per week. That adds up to a total of ~360k SP per week. With boosters that can be upped to around 540k SP (150%), so it is possible you're still not quite there yet but it does seem somewhat unlikely.
Bigglesworth McQueen On The Brink 43	Posted - 2013.02.11 11:52:00 - [5] - Quote Django Quik wrote: Without boosters you earn ~24k SP passive per day and up to 190k SP active per week. That adds up to a total of ~360k SP per week. With boosters that can be upped to around 540k SP (150%), so it is possible you're still not quite there yet but it does seem somewhat unlikely. With what I have unallocated at the moment, it all adds up to 596,895SP. If the cap with boosters is indeed 540k that would mean I would have made 57k on the day the cap was introduced. Lets say 20k was made passively overnight. So 37k active SP in one day, nope. That's also assuming I have just hit my cap now, which I still haven't. So yeah, it does seem unlikely. It also seems broken for me. (not complaining, my shields are sh*t hot now).
Django Quik R.I.f.t 220	Posted - 2013.02.11 12:12:00 - [6] - Quote Gotta give you props for bring this up because a lot of people would just take the extra SP and not say a thing. Good on ya Biggles!
Bigglesworth McQueen On The Brink 43	Posted - 2013.02.11 12:15:00 - [7] - Quote Django Quik wrote: Gotta give you props for bring this up because a lot of people would just take the extra SP and not say a thing. Good on ya Biggles! Hey, it's a game I actually enjoy and it's still in beta. Anyone who doesn't report these type of things, doesn't deserve to participate.
Jack Boost Zarena Family 194	Posted - 2013.02.11 12:35:00 - [8] - Quote Bigglesworth McQueen wrote: Django Quik wrote: Gotta give you props for bring this up because a lot of people would just take the extra SP and not say a thing. Good on ya Biggles! Hey, it's a game I actually enjoy and it's still in beta. Anyone who doesn't report these type of things, doesn't deserve to participate. People.... 190 400 sp active week (max) 24 000 per day *7 = 168 000 sp passive per week 360 400 sp total when you hit cap and stop playing (but you get it pregresivly ... so not so fast with 'jump conclusions') With bossters 150% (.. sad that % calculation is missing from schools in some countries) 540 600 sp per week.... OP says plays almost week with boosters... still under 'cap' crap numbers (521530) with double reset in last week. Play more, read more. Link for numbers https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=50021&find=unread - part of calculation
Bigglesworth McQueen On The Brink 43	Posted - 2013.02.11 14:26:00 - [9] - Quote Jack Boost wrote: Bigglesworth McQueen wrote: Django Quik wrote: Gotta give you props for bring this up because a lot of people would just take the extra SP and not say a thing. Good on ya Biggles! Hey, it's a game I actually enjoy and it's still in beta. Anyone who doesn't report these type of things, doesn't deserve to participate. People.... 190 400 sp active week (max) 24 000 per day *7 = 168 000 sp passive per week 360 400 sp total when you hit cap and stop playing (but you get it pregresivly ... so not so fast with 'jump conclusions') With bossters 150% (.. sad that % calculation is missing from schools in some countries) 540 600 sp per week.... OP says plays almost week with boosters... still under 'cap' crap numbers (521530) with double reset in last week. Play more, read more. Link for numbers https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=50021&find=unread - part of calculation You're assuming I demolished the game on Tuesday to get in shed loads of SP before the reset. I didn't. On the Tuesday, I made about 15k active SP (I know this because I wasn't in the house for the most part), nowhere near enough to make the amount I have now. Yes, you say the cap is 540,600. I'm closing in on 600k. The 540,600 is active and passive combined, correct? Also, it's a shame that basic grammar and spelling is missing from schools in some countries.
Jack Boost Zarena Family 194	Posted - 2013.02.11 15:00:00 - [10] - Quote Bigglesworth McQueen wrote: You're assuming I demolished the game on Tuesday to get in shed loads of SP before the reset. I didn't. On the Tuesday, I made about 15k active SP (I know this because I wasn't in the house for the most part), nowhere near enough to make the amount I have now. Yes, you say the cap is 540,600. I'm closing in on 600k. The 540,600 is active and passive combined, correct? Parts where numbers can go wrong is more. You post only actual levels of skill that you upgraded. But from 0? level 1?... The best thing that you can do is (if this is bug) post here your starting amount of SP .. from last week. But it is probably impossible. Quote: Tuesday, I made 15l active SP total (I know I know only one day away from home)... you dont play much. Most of dusters do active cap in 2-3 days. No lifers in 1 day. Noone (included me) got wrong numbers that I know... If this is possible put more evidence here. This part Quote: Also, it's a shame that basic grammar and spelling is missing from schools in some countries. Is not true. Even in third world people take care for native language. I take time and search/learn 'Dust lore' for you and try explain what is wrong with this case in.. not my native language. So if you want you can always ask me things in my language with perfest contekst. :D I dont dissapoint you. Or use search button instead.

Bigglesworth McQueen On The Brink 43	Posted - 2013.02.11 15:12:00 - [11] - Quote Well Jack, In my OP I did state that I EARNED AND SPENT the SP. So, I started off with roughly 10kSP (I had just upgraded Circuitry and left myself dry), then the new cap was introduced. I then decided that I would be able to upgrade my shields in one big lump sum. Over the next couple of days, from having 10k unallocated, I had managed to save and spend an extra 300k on Shield boost systems level 4, from nothing. The skill I wanted was shield control, so I put 2 levels in that too for a further 100 something. Well, my shield was looking good, so I thought I'd make it better with some shield extenders. That cost me even more SP. In total, from this point, I have exceeded 600k SP, both passive and active. All of the skills listed were from scratch, level 0. I had very little reserve prior to the new cap. Give or take 50k, I was on about 800k at the time of the new cap. I have nearly 1.4mil now. You're missing my point about the schooling. I wouldn't take the ** out of your bad spelling usually, so why take the out of the 'calculations' in this thread? I know what I have earned and spent. It far exceeds the cap. I provided all the evidence needed, all I was asking for was either someone to come forward and say the same ** is happening to them, or for a dev to check the progression of my character and confirm what has happened. I thank you for your insight and mathematical ability, but it doesn't stop you from being incorrect.
DRAlgernop Krieger Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 24	Posted - 2013.02.11 19:01:00 - [12] - Quote Yeah, this may actually be happening to my brother as well...though, we weren't keeping as good track as you were....I hit my cap the day before yesterday and I don't play all that much more than him...He's yet to hit his cap, he's earned around 500k sp...So, maybe he's just really close and hasn't hit it, but it doesn't seem that way..
Y0UR NAME HERE Imperfects Negative-Feedback 444	Posted - 2013.02.11 20:57:00 - [13] - Quote DRAlgernop Krieger wrote: Yeah, this may actually be happening to my brother as well...though, we weren't keeping as good track as you were....I hit my cap the day before yesterday and I don't play all that much more than him...He's yet to hit his cap, he's earned around 500k sp...So, maybe he's just really close and hasn't hit it, but it doesn't seem that way.. I hit my cap on my alt the first day, wed. I have been playing on my main since then, still haven't hit my cap, my brother cap'd his days ago and we play at the same time lol.
Marc Rime Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 31	Posted - 2013.02.12 00:06:00 - [14] - Quote The skills you listed total 521 530 SP. Saved SP: ~10 000 Last tuesday: ~14 000 This weeks cap: 285 600 Six days passive: 36 000 * 6 = 216 000 Total: ~526 000 SP. Assuming the numbers you provided are correct you should hit the cap pretty soon. EDIT: just noticed the post where you said you have more unallocated... Grats on the extra SP I guess ;).
KalOfTheRathi CowTek 168	Posted - 2013.02.12 01:56:00 - [15] - Quote Is this your first pass with the new Cap? The reason I ask is because my first week was weirdly off. I didn't track it well enough to know exactly what was happening but the values were definitely wrong. The second week both chars are spot on the money. I suspect there was some balancing of what was missed from sometime before the cap. Maybe the beginning was flexible to bring some balance in to some players, maybe it was just a bug. For myself, it was a one time event that I didn't have enough data on to report a problem. Track your next week and report back the results. I would be surprised to find that it is still off. I am sure the Devs would be as well!


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