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Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
2867
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Posted - 2013.02.11 01:54:00 -
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Hello all you neophytes to New Eden.
I am here to remind you that some of you still DO NOT GET IT.
When the ashes of your empire falls around you because you had to resort to using cheap gear again, because you ran of tanks to bring to the front lines, because your last war barge got blown up to orbit, because you ran out of materials to construct new bases, or because you ran out of fuel that powered a shield generator that provided your planet some immunity from attacks, or because you placed yourself in a position that the next loss means the end of your little empire. You're going to then and probably only then realize that your skill point accrual rates, amounts, total amounts, proper distribution of; Is entirely utterly useless verses some of the mightiest economic war machines you're going to be facing in the near future.
Isk talks, if your corporate wallet isn't a swelling 10 billion or more isk pure dust side, you're behind the power curve rather significantly. Hybrid corps should know how much they need to be at for flood gate day.
Fate favors the prepared, When an entire suite of infantry gear plans costs well over 40 billion to purchase, then the infrastructure to research, upgrade, and manufacture weapons and gear from them are much more. You are so going to wished you had all the isk you needed the day the items where available, you may wind up with no choice but to buy the very weapons you need to do your job, from the very enemy you are fighting because they beat you to the punch.
This npc market hand holding wont last forever. Soon every bit of gear you buy will be player made and if you're one of those slack offs that thought that 1 million was enough 20 million 400 million 1 billion was enough no matter the number you think it is, its wrong because someone else has that mind set already.
No amount of SP is going to save you at that point, but with enough isk spent in the proper places, and you can amazing make some enemies simply disappear.
Want a real challenge? Learn how to be isk efficient as a corp, reduce losses, increase profits, don't trash your assets because you cant use them or never plan to. Build your wealth, plan its spending, start finding jobs for people in your corp, recruiters, counter intel, finance, tacticians, analytics, intel. Buy your corporations loyalty or increase your own clout. Either way a year two or three from now, SP amounts are not going to matter to you. The outcome of tomorrow's battle will weigh far heavier, after all its the last foot hold you have in that region, it be an awful shame is a second enemy shows up to start hammering away at your home systems and you don't have the isk to hire extra guns to defend everywhere. Skill points wont save you there.
To all you nay sayers about you cannot buy trust, you cannot buy loyalty, you cannot buy respect, you cannot buy friendship.
You are right but Ill tell you what is buyable.
Erosion of Trust is defiantly up for sale, purchase of an expert propaganda machine, or a spy is just enough to shatter that trust. It chews on the moral, people long time friends start accusing each other, and the spy is the guy in charge of your counter intelligence and recruiting.
You will quickly find out loyalty is only earned as long as the goal seems feasible the moment you lose sight of that goal when whever the obstacles in the way are too daunting or they shifted focus else where, prepare for abandoning of the ship.
Destruction of respect wholesale can be bought as well. After all what sort of respect do you think you are going to earn as the top dog? nothing but hatred and spite and eventually all one could do is do it better and bigger and overshadowing the former.
Buy training, new recruits, spend the cost of gear and research. They will eventually get better and with more number more capable.
Friends as we seen in eve online have been made and broken on a daily basis, even those known in real life wind up corp theifing. Also word of warning if a husband and wife are the 'ceos' of a corp or in the same corp, stay out of that one. divorces are pretty nasty. |
IRuby Heart
DIOS EX.
326
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Posted - 2013.02.11 01:57:00 -
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As they say, No power is greater than the Powa of Dolla  |
Sextus Hardcock
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
RISE of LEGION
63
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Posted - 2013.02.11 01:59:00 -
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Trust and Respect
The only things that cannot be bought and sold
They are priceless
Isk comes and goes |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
1058
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Posted - 2013.02.11 02:02:00 -
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Last battle I was in, the other team used AND LOST at least 5 HAVs, yet still lost the battle by a good amount.
A lot of good that ISK did them.
I wish I remembered to check who was calling them in- who would waste that much ISK on a pub match? |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
1058
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Posted - 2013.02.11 02:47:00 -
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Also, I doubt ISK will matter once we can get it from eve players- SP and the ability to make allies will be the only thing limiting us |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
2867
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Posted - 2013.02.11 03:08:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Also, I doubt ISK will matter once we can get it from eve players- SP and the ability to make allies will be the only thing limiting us
At the rate we blow though isk, they're going to start demanding a return on their investments. |
Patoman Radiant
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
53
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Posted - 2013.02.11 03:13:00 -
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I have enough isk for my personal needs, being smart, but could allways use a bit more isk and SP
and also my eve char has 20 billion or so in isk assets, so once trading is in, the olny limit will be SP because I will bling to the max all the the time.
So I don't see your point, grind away for isk all you like you will never match mine unless you are in the 1% of eve :D |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
2867
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Posted - 2013.02.11 03:14:00 -
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Sextus Hardcock wrote:Trust and Respect
The only things that cannot be bought and sold
They are priceless
Isk comes and goes
Trust can be eroded though constant string of defeats, loss of faith, lack of results, answerless reasons.
Respect is lost the moment they stop believing you have any chance, a good back-stab is usually enough.
While trust cannot be bought, the erosion of trust can.
While respect cannot be bought, the loss of it can.
Things you cannot buy in New Eden, is Drive, Purpose, and Motive.
1. Have a plan to kill everyone you meet.
2. If you can't afford to lose it, don't use it.
3. If you can't defend it, you don't deserve it. |
Full Metal Kitten
Sinq Laison Gendarmes
Gallente Federation
150
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Posted - 2013.02.11 03:57:00 -
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It will be nice to get some new goals and objectives. Until then, I play to cap SP and have some fun along the way.
SP = Moar Options. ISK ain't doin' kitten for me ATM. Also, I'd been happy with passive only. |
usrevenge2
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
64
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Posted - 2013.02.11 04:02:00 -
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I'd trade all my isk in dust right now for 500kSP. |
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Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
2867
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Posted - 2013.02.11 04:28:00 -
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usrevenge2 wrote:I'd trade all my isk in dust right now for 500kSP.
What advantage would that yield you? a full clip of a militia ar is still going to bring your suit down after you spend all of that.
Like tank is not less immune to the dreaded orbital strike.
It doesn't buy your corporation immunity from spies, sabatures, and undermining.
It certainly won't make isk income easier if anything it make it much harder. |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
2867
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Posted - 2013.02.11 13:40:00 -
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To add to that, an additional 5 million or 50 million or 500 million sp is not going to change that outcome by much still.
A quater of a clip more on heavy suits maybe.
You may escape an Orbital strikes but still just as unlikely
A corp theif robbed your corps entire armory and wallet still
and you insist on still using all prototype gear. |
STYLIE77
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
60
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Posted - 2013.02.11 14:45:00 -
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Money and the Power NSFW
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SYN BLACK XS
Greatness Achieved Through Training
20
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Posted - 2013.02.11 14:55:00 -
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I'll take the SP anyday.. |
Noc Tempre
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
1170
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Posted - 2013.02.11 14:57:00 -
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Trying to earn ISK DUST side is pointless. EVE pilots can earn billions an hour. We will never match that. Focus on SP and true skill so you can demand high prices for your services. |
Sextus Hardcock
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
RISE of LEGION
63
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Posted - 2013.02.11 15:03:00 -
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Noc Tempre wrote:Trying to earn ISK DUST side is pointless. EVE pilots can earn billions an hour. We will never match that. Focus on SP and true skill so you can demand high prices for your services.
billions per hour? I think not. |
Noc Tempre
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
1170
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Posted - 2013.02.11 15:07:00 -
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Sextus Hardcock wrote:Noc Tempre wrote:Trying to earn ISK DUST side is pointless. EVE pilots can earn billions an hour. We will never match that. Focus on SP and true skill so you can demand high prices for your services. billions per hour? I think not.
1) Fly capital ship
2) Scan out complex
3)???
4) Profit
That is only one of many many ways to reach such stratospheric values. |
Sextus Hardcock
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
RISE of LEGION
63
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Posted - 2013.02.11 15:07:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Sextus Hardcock wrote:Trust and Respect
The only things that cannot be bought and sold
They are priceless
Isk comes and goes Trust can be eroded though constant string of defeats, loss of faith, lack of results, answerless reasons. Respect is lost the moment they stop believing you have any chance, a good back-stab is usually enough. While trust cannot be bought, the erosion of trust can. While respect cannot be bought, the loss of it can. Things you cannot buy in New Eden, is Drive, Purpose, and Motive. 1. Have a plan to kill everyone you meet. 2. If you can't afford to lose it, don't use it. 3. If you can't defend it, you don't deserve it.
If trust is lost through a string of defeats, it wasn't trust.
If respect is lost because they stop believing you have any chance, it wasn't respect.
Trust and respect are earned by actions taken, in the face of adversity, over time. By sacrificing for the greater good. By staying strong and steady in the face of defeat. Everybody loves you when your on top, you'll find out who's really got your back when things get bad.
I do agree with your 3 rules, you must be a fellow eve pilot. |
Sextus Hardcock
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
RISE of LEGION
63
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Posted - 2013.02.11 15:08:00 -
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Noc Tempre wrote:Sextus Hardcock wrote:Noc Tempre wrote:Trying to earn ISK DUST side is pointless. EVE pilots can earn billions an hour. We will never match that. Focus on SP and true skill so you can demand high prices for your services. billions per hour? I think not. 1) Fly capital ship 2) Scan out complex 3)??? 4) Profit That is only one of many many ways to reach such stratospheric values.
10s of millions, relatively easy
100s of millions, perhaps
billions, sorry no. |
Noc Tempre
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
1170
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Posted - 2013.02.11 15:11:00 -
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Sextus Hardcock wrote:Noc Tempre wrote:Sextus Hardcock wrote:Noc Tempre wrote:Trying to earn ISK DUST side is pointless. EVE pilots can earn billions an hour. We will never match that. Focus on SP and true skill so you can demand high prices for your services. billions per hour? I think not. 1) Fly capital ship 2) Scan out complex 3)??? 4) Profit That is only one of many many ways to reach such stratospheric values. 10s of millions, relatively easy 100s of millions, perhaps billions, sorry no.
TBF, I'm not implying they are earning billions per pilot, although it could very easily be billions per player. |
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Sextus Hardcock
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
RISE of LEGION
63
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Posted - 2013.02.11 15:17:00 -
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Noc Tempre wrote:Sextus Hardcock wrote:Noc Tempre wrote:Sextus Hardcock wrote:Noc Tempre wrote:Trying to earn ISK DUST side is pointless. EVE pilots can earn billions an hour. We will never match that. Focus on SP and true skill so you can demand high prices for your services. billions per hour? I think not. 1) Fly capital ship 2) Scan out complex 3)??? 4) Profit That is only one of many many ways to reach such stratospheric values. 10s of millions, relatively easy 100s of millions, perhaps billions, sorry no. TBF, I'm not implying they are earning billions per pilot, although it could very easily be billions per player.
with multi-boxing that could be possible yes. |
G Sacred
Rubber Chicken Bombers
73
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Posted - 2013.02.11 15:22:00 -
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Lol. I got over 20 Mil. Isk. I'm set until I have to run prototype equipment. I already have 200 Assault B-Series, 200 Duvolles, a changing amount of Complex Shields and Armor mods, a Toxin SMG, and my a changing amount of Armor Repairing Nanos. I cant even use most of that stuff but I buy early and in bulk. |
Firestorm Zulu
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
158
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Posted - 2013.02.11 16:43:00 -
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SP is king in dust. Sorry to burst your bubble and all the melodramatic ranting. ISK comes and goes, SP is forever |
DPyro WSG
Wraith Shadow Guards
12
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Posted - 2013.02.11 16:50:00 -
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I already have 50 million isk on dust side, thanks. |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
2867
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Posted - 2013.02.11 17:04:00 -
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Firestorm Zulu wrote:SP is king in dust. Sorry to burst your bubble and all the melodramatic ranting. ISK comes and goes, SP is forever
I can still effectively kill your character with a freshly rolled alt.
I cannot effectively kick your corp out of faction warfare standings without the isk. |
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