DUST Search - Vehicles vs swarm laughers

Skihids wrote:

I-Shayz-I wrote:

Um...skill into better vehicles?

I know for a fact that I can take down any militia LAV with one shot of a swarm launcher. I can also take down any militia tank with a militia swarm. I also know that it's very hard to even try taking down a standard tank or well fit LAV with militia swarms.

Most players have not skilled into better swarm launchers, but a few players have skilled into AV fittings. This means that 95% of the players you're playing against will not be able to take you down if you're in a well fit standard vehicle vs a militia one.

One can only buff a dropship so far, about 5k eHP for a Myron.

Given the fact that a dropship is visible from just about anywhere on the map because it's hanging in the sky it can be targeted by numerous SL users spread all over the map. It's next to impossible to avoid them and most of the maps provide little to no cover to a dropship unless it decides to hide and be useless.

Missile ECM is a part of every military technology. DUST requires it and the devs have promised it (SOON TM).

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CODE Breaker93 Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 11	Posted - 2013.02.04 17:37:00 - [1] - Quote My only issues with vehicles in Dust514 (and this may just be me) is that vehicles have no defense against swarm laughers and its almost a certainty when you see this swarm missiles in the air the you're dead or your vehicle is at least. And no matter how good a driver and pilot you are, you will get hit. My suggestion is adding a flare module or an EMP burst to fit the futuristic them of Dust514.
Sir Meode Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 318	Posted - 2013.02.04 17:41:00 - [2] - Quote I support this idea. +1
Gaechti BetaMax. 71	Posted - 2013.02.04 17:54:00 - [3] - Quote LAV: Eject? HAV: Get cover behind a hill Dropship: Fly away (Flares for Air Vehicles was pretty much confirmed I tought) Edit: In the end I will kill you with my AV nade anyways ;)
Iskandar Zul Karnain Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 176	Posted - 2013.02.04 17:57:00 - [4] - Quote Yeah I like this too. Seems a little ridiculous we can't stop a few rockets. Dropship pilots especially are in need of this. Could we maybe kill swarms with blasters?
CODE Breaker93 Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 11	Posted - 2013.02.04 18:05:00 - [5] - Quote Iskandar Zul Karnain wrote: Yeah I like this too. Seems a little ridiculous we can't stop a few rockets. Dropship pilots especially are in need of this. Could we maybe kill swarms with blasters? You would have you have some good gunners on hand to shoot them down. And they should add weapons for the pilot too use and a pilot POV possibly
CODE Breaker93 Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 11	Posted - 2013.02.04 18:11:00 - [6] - Quote Gaechti wrote: LAV: Eject? HAV: Get cover behind a hill Dropship: Fly away (Flares for Air Vehicles was pretty much confirmed I tought) Edit: In the end I will kill you with my AV nade anyways ;) Dropships cant out run swarms and even if you run they can still lock on to you across the map and fire again
I-Shayz-I ZionTCD Legacy Rising 172	Posted - 2013.02.04 18:53:00 - [7] - Quote Um...skill into better vehicles? I know for a fact that I can take down any militia LAV with one shot of a swarm launcher. I can also take down any militia tank with a militia swarm. I also know that it's very hard to even try taking down a standard tank or well fit LAV with militia swarms. Most players have not skilled into better swarm launchers, but a few players have skilled into AV fittings. This means that 95% of the players you're playing against will not be able to take you down if you're in a well fit standard vehicle vs a militia one.
CODE Breaker93 Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 11	Posted - 2013.02.04 19:11:00 - [8] - Quote I-Shayz-I wrote: Um...skill into better vehicles? I know for a fact that I can take down any militia LAV with one shot of a swarm launcher. I can also take down any militia tank with a militia swarm. I also know that it's very hard to even try taking down a standard tank or well fit LAV with militia swarms. Most players have not skilled into better swarm launchers, but a few players have skilled into AV fittings. This means that 95% of the players you're playing against will not be able to take you down if you're in a well fit standard vehicle vs a militia one. Thats a great point. I failed to consider how weak the militia stuff is. But further into the future, after the game is out, mercs might begin to build strong AV suits and be more dangerous.
Bigglesworth McQueen On The Brink 43	Posted - 2013.02.04 19:20:00 - [9] - Quote Swarm laughers. I nearly p****ed myself reminiscing about those rockets from Mario with the angry laughing faces. If only we could get those in game.
Skihids Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising 970	Posted - 2013.02.04 19:22:00 - [10] - Quote I-Shayz-I wrote: Um...skill into better vehicles? I know for a fact that I can take down any militia LAV with one shot of a swarm launcher. I can also take down any militia tank with a militia swarm. I also know that it's very hard to even try taking down a standard tank or well fit LAV with militia swarms. Most players have not skilled into better swarm launchers, but a few players have skilled into AV fittings. This means that 95% of the players you're playing against will not be able to take you down if you're in a well fit standard vehicle vs a militia one. One can only buff a dropship so far, about 5k eHP for a Myron. Given the fact that a dropship is visible from just about anywhere on the map because it's hanging in the sky it can be targeted by numerous SL users spread all over the map. It's next to impossible to avoid them and most of the maps provide little to no cover to a dropship unless it decides to hide and be useless. Missile ECM is a part of every military technology. DUST requires it and the devs have promised it (SOON TM).

CODE Breaker93 Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 11	Posted - 2013.02.04 20:20:00 - [11] - Quote Skihids wrote: I-Shayz-I wrote: Um...skill into better vehicles? I know for a fact that I can take down any militia LAV with one shot of a swarm launcher. I can also take down any militia tank with a militia swarm. I also know that it's very hard to even try taking down a standard tank or well fit LAV with militia swarms. Most players have not skilled into better swarm launchers, but a few players have skilled into AV fittings. This means that 95% of the players you're playing against will not be able to take you down if you're in a well fit standard vehicle vs a militia one. One can only buff a dropship so far, about 5k eHP for a Myron. Given the fact that a dropship is visible from just about anywhere on the map because it's hanging in the sky it can be targeted by numerous SL users spread all over the map. It's next to impossible to avoid them and most of the maps provide little to no cover to a dropship unless it decides to hide and be useless. Missile ECM is a part of every military technology. DUST requires it and the devs have promised it (SOON TM). Awesome
Master Seargent Winters Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2013.02.04 20:34:00 - [12] - Quote Field mech and shield control + non militia vehicles, well standard swarms aren't an issue as long as you are smart. Now I did have like 3 new berries firing at me at once and that's a bit much, though survived by playing smart till I hit a lamp pole.
Coleman Gray Coalition Of Goverments 47	Posted - 2013.02.04 22:28:00 - [13] - Quote It would make swarm launchers pretty useless tho, they can't hit infantry, if you hit a tank you may remove it's shields if your lucky. Drop ships tho I agree with since they are a troop transport thats made to go into combat zones, why would it not have an anti missile defense? But for buggy's and tanks? no way surely that'd be unfair?
Knarf Black Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 397	Posted - 2013.02.04 22:51:00 - [14] - Quote Swarm countermeasures are a great idea. (I say this as a swarm user, btw.) Stipulations: -Not for HAV -Has finite uses (ammo) -Relatively low CPU/PG usage They could even have different kinds: automatic, limited use types and more effective versions that must be manually deployed.
Scheneighnay McBob Bojo's School of the Trades 1062	Posted - 2013.02.04 23:11:00 - [15] - Quote CODE Breaker93 wrote: Gaechti wrote: LAV: Eject? HAV: Get cover behind a hill Dropship: Fly away (Flares for Air Vehicles was pretty much confirmed I tought) Edit: In the end I will kill you with my AV nade anyways ;) Dropships cant out run swarms and even if you run they can still lock on to you across the map and fire again The idea of jumping out of a 200,000 ISK LAV is pretty stupid- their main defense is to tank as many hits as they can while going full throttle into cover. I would actually feel safer in my LAV than most HAVs because HAVs take much longer to retreat.


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