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        |  Y0UR NAME HERE
 Imperfects
 Negative-Feedback
 
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      | Posted - 2013.01.31 21:01:00 -
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 As title says, this should have been fixed awhile ago. It is seriously making the game out of balance.
 
 
 If you have a suit with 3 mids, that's 30% more damage, plus 2% on weaponry per level so now 40% add another 2% per level of damage on various guns per skill level, it's now 50% more damage.
 
 So there are guns going off with 50% more damage then the rest due to stacking, yet people want things nerfed cuz they're OP ect.
 
 Fix it CCP, this is crazy and should have been a priority in balancing.
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        |  Alan-Ibn-Xuan Al-Alasabe
 Planetary Response Organisation
 Test Friends Please Ignore
 
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      | Posted - 2013.01.31 21:04:00 -
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 Do you have any reason to think the stacking penalty isn't working? They should only be seeing about a 36% increase in damage.
 
 http://www.eve-wiki.net/index.php?title=Stacking_penalty
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        |  Cross Atu
 Conspiratus Immortalis
 
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      | Posted - 2013.01.31 21:04:00 -
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 +1
 
 This is not only a game balance issue but a community issue as many new players haven't heard of this bug and thus are under the mistaken impression that the damage being done is considered balanced for the weapon, thus leading to many excessive nerf/buff threads when in fact it's a mod issue, not a weapon issue.
 
 0.02 ISK
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        |  Y0UR NAME HERE
 Imperfects
 Negative-Feedback
 
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      | Posted - 2013.01.31 21:10:00 -
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 Alan-Ibn-Xuan Al-Alasabe wrote: 
 
 yes, you can simply look at your stats after putting on the mods,
 
 Its been broken for a long time now and is well known.
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        |  KingBabar
 Seraphim Initiative.
 CRONOS.
 
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      | Posted - 2013.01.31 21:49:00 -
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 Duvolle + 10% weaponry + 15% AR proff. + (4*10=46%) mods = total of + 71% more damage.
 
 Having a 250 K protosuit with a mere 412 HP seems like a fine tradeoff....
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        |  Knarf Black
 Subdreddit
 Test Alliance Please Ignore
 
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      | Posted - 2013.01.31 21:50:00 -
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 Well that explains a lot.
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        |  Ten-Sidhe
 Osmon Surveillance
 Caldari State
 
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      | Posted - 2013.01.31 22:23:00 -
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 Current damage with 3 damage modes and weaponry level 5 and gun damage skill at lv5
 100*1.1*1.1*1.1*1.1*1.15=168.3715%
 
 Percentage bonus are multiplied not added, so it's worse then the 55% people add up by adding bonus together
 
 If stacking penalty worked it would be
 100*1.1*1.1*(1+.1*.87)*(1+.1*.57)*1.15=159.8776%
 
 The forth mod is hit very hard, 10% bonus would only be 2.8%. So instead of making 168.3715*1.1=185.2087%, It makes 159.8876*(1+.1*.28)=164.3645%
 
 
 So, stacking penalty is not additive at moment, it is missing completely. What is shown in fitting matches what it would be with no penalty
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        |  Y0UR NAME HERE
 Imperfects
 Negative-Feedback
 
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      | Posted - 2013.01.31 22:48:00 -
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 Ten-Sidhe wrote:Current damage with 3 damage modes and weaponry level 5 and gun damage skill at lv5100*1.1*1.1*1.1*1.1*1.15=168.3715%
 
 Percentage bonus are multiplied not added, so it's worse then the 55% people add up by adding bonus together
 
 If stacking penalty worked it would be
 100*1.1*1.1*(1+.1*.87)*(1+.1*.57)*1.15=159.8776%
 
 The forth mod is hit very hard, 10% bonus would only be 2.8%. So instead of making 168.3715*1.1=185.2087%, It makes 159.8876*(1+.1*.28)=164.3645%
 
 
 So, stacking penalty is not additive at moment, it is missing completely. What is shown in fitting matches what it would be with no penalty
 
 
 Yep, and its been like this for awhile
 
 Thanks guy for doing the math ;) i'm way to lazy.
 
 But, here we are nerfing things left and right for a long time, yet look at the biggest balance problem of all.
 
 Makes me wonder how much was actually OP or just over damage mod'd.
 
 IMO we can't be doing anymore balancing of weapons of any kind until we get the stacking penalty fixed.
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        |  slap26
 Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
 RISE of LEGION
 
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      | Posted - 2013.01.31 22:54:00 -
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 They need to fix the damage mods before overbalancing guns, I think people are just abusing the broken damage mods and making a gun look way more powerful then it actually is
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        |  Free Beers
 Internal Error.
 Negative-Feedback
 
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      | Posted - 2013.01.31 23:08:00 -
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 slap26 wrote:They need to fix the damage mods before overbalancing guns, I think people are just abusing the broken damage mods and making a gun look way more powerful then it actually is 
 I do agree the dam mods have to be reworked and soon. Nerfing of guns only serves to give larger advantage to higher sp players or DAM fits
 
 
 The long range weapons/MD are at advantage here if they can run DAM fit instead of a BUFF fits. Hence why the hate for uber snipers/laser/MD will appear in the next month or so.
 
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