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Don Von Hulio UnReaL. 90	Posted - 2013.01.29 07:02:00 - [1] - Quote I melee'd a guy 2x while he was using a Blaster... Then i just gave up and put 80 rounds of SMG into his back and barely had enough rounds to kill him.... Wasnt a Heavy.
Dr Debo Galaxy GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 200	Posted - 2013.01.29 07:04:00 - [2] - Quote melee is weird, but i would say level your weaponry skill up for more damage, maybe. or your hand to hand combat.
Toyis Winknife Ametat Security Amarr Empire 13	Posted - 2013.01.29 07:06:00 - [3] - Quote level of hand2hand? what suit did he have on? that will make the difference of fast vs slow kill.
Erolimais Feorin Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 8	Posted - 2013.01.29 07:07:00 - [4] - Quote Totally needs to be looked at, makes sniping a helluva lot difficult if it doesn't register and I end up having to empty a clip.
Don Von Hulio UnReaL. 90	Posted - 2013.01.29 07:09:00 - [5] - Quote lol Its not that damage was the problem. Its the fact he wasnt taking any while his shields reacted. 80 rounds from an Assault SMG is like 1600 something at point blank. He should've died way before i reached the end of my clip. And i dont have anything into my Hand2hand. I just wanted to shame him for being so absorbed in his Blaster Turret. My hand to hand should do 150 points of damage. A noticeable amount when most people still have Militia gear. He wasnt a Heavy btw. He was a Logy iirc.
Dr Debo Galaxy GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 200	Posted - 2013.01.29 07:13:00 - [6] - Quote there are shield extenders that absorb the damage for the first few hits then there shields start to take damage.
Don Von Hulio UnReaL. 90	Posted - 2013.01.29 07:15:00 - [7] - Quote Dr Debo Galaxy wrote: there are shield extenders that absorb the damage for the first few hits then there shields start to take damage. Ya, maybe. But it cant be so high as to use a whole clip?
steadyhand amarr Imperfects Negative-Feedback 338	Posted - 2013.01.29 07:15:00 - [8] - Quote Agrees with my build I can take a full clip before it scratches my armour
Don Von Hulio UnReaL. 90	Posted - 2013.01.29 07:19:00 - [9] - Quote Its not that i didnt do enough damage to kill him. The point is the bullets were not registering and doing damage. At 1056rpm and 20~ something damage at point blank.
Dr Debo Galaxy GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 200	Posted - 2013.01.29 07:27:00 - [10] - Quote if the shield was reacting then your hits were being registered. To me that mean shield extender, possible at a high level. The problem here is the unknown what type of SMG did you have? Where are your skills in weaponry? What type of suit did the other guy have? What skills did he have leveled up? Etc. If you are using militia gear with little sp into your weapons and he is a vet with lots of sp in his shields this could happen.

Don Von Hulio UnReaL. 90	Posted - 2013.01.29 07:30:00 - [11] - Quote Dr Debo Galaxy wrote: if the shield was reacting then your hits were being registered. To me that mean shield extender, possible at a high level. The problem here is the unknown what type of SMG did you have? Where are your skills in weaponry? What type of suit did the other guy have? What skills did he have leveled up? Etc. If you are using militia gear with little sp into your weapons and he is a vet with lots of sp in his shields this could happen. All of those questions i have previously answered already. But ill do it again. My weaponry is L3. I dont run Damage mods on my Assault load out. Just two shield extenders, Armor Rep unit, and a Shield Regulator. Had an Assault SMG. Their Health shouldnt just drop, it should go down in a stream, considering how fast it shoots.
Dr Debo Galaxy GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 200	Posted - 2013.01.29 07:33:00 - [12] - Quote ok so what modules and skils did he have leveled up? question not answered. And since you said the shield was effected you were hitting him and he had on extenders. So in conclusion he had on shield extenders and a high level shield extender possible 2. There was no problem with hit detection.
Don Von Hulio UnReaL. 90	Posted - 2013.01.29 07:37:00 - [13] - Quote Dr Debo Galaxy wrote: ok so what modules and skils did he have leveled up? question not answered. And since you said the shield was effected you were hitting him and he had on extenders. So in conclusion he had on shield extenders and a high level shield extender possible 2. There was no problem with hit detection. Ok. So two shield extenders could mean either 22, or 66 extra shields. Idk what the next one up is, haven't looked. The fact is. 80 rounds and each one is supposed to do 20~ damage. That1600~ total and he died at the bitter end of my clip. I highly doubt he has accumulated enough SP as a Logy to have that much Shield and armor to resist the SMG's full affect at point blank range. Especially when you take into consideration i snuck up on him while he was on a blaster. Doesn't sound like a Vet who knows where to exactly put his SP. Am i the only one who gets unregistered sniper shots, bunk shields reacting with no hit marker etc?
Don Von Hulio UnReaL. 90	Posted - 2013.01.29 07:41:00 - [14] - Quote Don Von Hulio wrote: [quote=Dr Debo Galaxy]ok so what modules and skils did he have leveled up? question not answered. And since you said the shield was effected you were hitting him and he had on extenders. So in conclusion he had on shield extenders and a high level shield extender possible 2. There was no problem with hit detection. Ok. So two shield extenders could mean either 22, or 66 extra shields. Idk what the next one up is, haven't looked. The fact is. 80 rounds and each one is supposed to do 20~ damage. That1600~ total and he died at the bitter end of my clip. I highly doubt he has accumulated enough SP as a Logy to have that much Shield and armor to resist the SMG's full affect at point blank range. Especially when you take into consideration i snuck up on him while he was on a blaster. Doesn't sound like a Vet who knows where to exactly put his SP. If this was a heavy... i wouldn't even be posting. I am Assault. Im pretty sure i was a huge red arrow on his mini. Am i the only one who gets unregistered sniper shots, bunk shields reacting with no hit marker etc?
slap26 Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION 462	Posted - 2013.01.29 07:43:00 - [15] - Quote It was a Bug, the Installation absorbed the shots, happened to me earlier when someone was hacking an objective, Emptied an AR clip point blank and did no damage, they finished the hack and then I killed them
Don Von Hulio UnReaL. 90	Posted - 2013.01.29 07:46:00 - [16] - Quote slap26 wrote: It was a Bug, the Installation absorbed the shots, happened to me earlier when someone was hacking an objective, Emptied an AR clip point blank and did no damage, they finished the hack and then I killed them ... this makes sense. He did start dieing once he hopped off the installation. Hit detection is still wonky though sometimes... lol
charlesnette dalari Creative Killers 159	Posted - 2013.01.29 14:24:00 - [17] - Quote slap26 wrote: It was a Bug, the Installation absorbed the shots, happened to me earlier when someone was hacking an objective, Emptied an AR clip point blank and did no damage, they finished the hack and then I killed them ^this^ exactly correct the person you are firing on gets the damage marker so be ready when they jump off the installation to kill them.. I have also noticed if I fire at them from the side rather than directly behind them it makes a difference with this bug but could just be me.
Drogan Reeth Free Trade Corp 2	Posted - 2013.01.29 15:37:00 - [18] - Quote It's definatly a bug. I've emptied entire HMG clips into ppl at close range and had my HMG overheat while ppl take little to no dmg.
Needless Sacermendor Red Fox Brigade 208	Posted - 2013.01.29 15:48:00 - [19] - Quote Shield extenders just add to the total shield ... so any damage registered will still show, it's not like you have to wear down the extender before you start to see damage on the shield bar. (for those that were thinking that) Yes interference from the structure (turret or objective or supply depot) is the most likely issue here, Devs still need to look at this because it is a pretty big problem. The other aspect to consider is your shots efficiency ... you know head shots get a damage bonus (couldn't quote the figure but 140% sounds familiar) and at the other end of the scale if you're shooting his little toe you get a reduction in damage. However he would still show damage, just not as much as your weapon stats say he should.
Midas Man ll Talon Strike Force LTD Sleepless Knights Alliance 38	Posted - 2013.01.29 16:05:00 - [20] - Quote Im another one for the instalation interferance. i have noticed some pretty aweful clipping issues. I've straifed out from behind a container and emptied a full clip into the container despite it being a yard or more to the side of me. This happens alot shooting from cover usually resulting in me going further out and getting shot lol



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