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Paran Tadec
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Posted - 2013.01.28 12:45:00 -
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why isnt it the only thing everyone has skilled into? Hmm |
Treemugger
I mug trees.
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Posted - 2013.01.28 13:10:00 -
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Well, people have lots of motives. You're probably pointing at the "This is more powerful than that, so I'll go with this" one. And that is a very good point, because (in the case of SG Scouts) they have more desire to 1HK than tank which means THEY consider it more effective than heavies... even if heavies still tick them off.
But, on the other hand: human's aren't always rational - we have preferences. Why drink that beer, you could have had a V8? It's healthier, after all. The SS Scout is more exciting than the heavy, which is why I use it. |
Squally 160
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2013.01.28 13:13:00 -
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Treemugger wrote:But, on the other hand: human's aren't always rational - we have preferences. Why drink that beer, you could have had a V8? It's healthier, after all.
V8 is what food drinks, just as salad is what food eats.
As an aside, I didnt spec into the HMG because, tbh, i like the forge gun much better.
Personal preference plays a lot into all these nerf this and that threads, people want what they chose to be legitimate in every circumstance. (not everyone does this of course, but the whiners do). |
Odayian Dust Bunny
One-Armed Bandits Orbital Rights
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Posted - 2013.01.28 13:14:00 -
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...maybe because the suits and equipment are 1.5-2x more then a fit in another class but it's okay, this isn't a pay-to-win game. :P
Sadly, that's one thing a lot of ppl haven't grasped. A good heavy loadout costs quite a bit more then other builds but the payout is typically a better K/D ratio. Logi can be up there too, but instead of a high K/D it's high WP/D. Gotta love those trade-offs. |
Salazar Skye-fire
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.01.28 13:16:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:why isnt it the only thing everyone has skilled into? Hmm
by that logic, your saying that nobody has skill and are toooo lazy to work for their score. |
Paran Tadec
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Posted - 2013.01.28 13:22:00 -
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Salazar Skye-fire wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:why isnt it the only thing everyone has skilled into? Hmm by that logic, your saying that nobody has skill and are toooo lazy to work for their score.
No, i think everything is pretty damn balanced. But you hear alot of whine from QQ'ers who say a heavy is an unstoppable killing machine because it only take 4 headshots from a GEK to kill instead of 3. |
KripnawtiQ Prime
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.01.28 13:24:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:why isnt it the only thing everyone has skilled into? Hmm
I think people don't spec into heavies because deep down they know dam well that the class has limitations and drawbacks. Assault is a much safer place to bet your SP. Almost as safe as hiding behind the scope of a sniper rifle from the redline. |
Paran Tadec
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Posted - 2013.01.28 13:30:00 -
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KripnawtiQ Prime wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:why isnt it the only thing everyone has skilled into? Hmm I think people don't spec into heavies because deep down they know dam well that the class has limitations and drawbacks. Assault is a much safer place to bet your SP. Almost as safe as hiding behind the scope of a sniper rifle from the redline.
Snipers are a whole other class of broken. No bullet drop? Check. No getting kicked out of scope when you are hit? Check... and so on |
KripnawtiQ Prime
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.01.28 13:38:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:KripnawtiQ Prime wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:why isnt it the only thing everyone has skilled into? Hmm I think people don't spec into heavies because deep down they know dam well that the class has limitations and drawbacks. Assault is a much safer place to bet your SP. Almost as safe as hiding behind the scope of a sniper rifle from the redline. Snipers are a whole other class of broken. No bullet drop? Check. No getting kicked out of scope when you are hit? Check... and so on
Indeed. But tbh, snipers don't really bother me a whole lot since they nerfed the basic sniper (remember when the starter fit was a OHK). Redline sniping is a beeatch move...unless your team is toast, then what other option is there really. Honestly at this point I wish CCP would just get on with another heavy nerf so the threads will stop. There are so many other issues with the game that need attention and people are not going to let this go until it happens. |
Alldin Kan
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Posted - 2013.01.28 13:42:00 -
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Heavies are only OP when they move in a group of 3 with HMGs. Better pop out your mass drivers and flux grenades when this happens. |
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ChribbaX
Otherworld Enterprises Dust Control Otherworld Empire Productions
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Posted - 2013.01.28 13:43:00 -
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Because I will pwn once the most underpowered stuff gets boosted and everything else nerfed
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KripnawtiQ Prime
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.01.28 13:49:00 -
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Alldin Kan wrote:Heavies are only OP when they move in a group of 3 with HMGs. Better pop out your mass drivers and flux grenades when this happens.
Lol I seem to remember your heavy fit was pretty effective all by itself before the wipe |
Midas Man ll
Talon Strike Force LTD Sleepless Knights Alliance
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Posted - 2013.01.28 13:51:00 -
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If a heavy spots me first and im in range, im dead. If I spot a heaavy frist from my optimal AR range, by the time he gets me in range he's dead and that assuming I stood still.
If anything heavy's need a boost, unless they are skilled or rolling with a skilled squad they are dead.
Most amusing thing ever is those that choose to use a big fat slow A&^-ú'd suit with a Shotgun, lol, how will they ever get close enough to shoot, or those with the AR's, run rings around them ones literally.
Jump over their head, turn, jump over, turn, also frustrates and kills them.
Now if you running against a heavy with proper support ie Logi and Assault friend, then no matter what you spec your going to die but thats a given for anyone running at 3 co-ordinated enemies. Try to get some friends and youll see how easily heavies drop. Focus Logi once he's down the heavy is too. |
Volgair
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.01.28 16:11:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:why isnt it the only thing everyone has skilled into? Hmm
Because its not the most abuse-able roll on the battle field, and lets face it Proto Assault with Proto fittings is a much better combination of survival and fire power then the Proto Heavy at 1/3 the price. Those of us who were around at the end of last build who are willing to remember that, are not asking for a nerf. In fact one might go so far as to ask for a buff for the Proto Heavy. |
Paran Tadec
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Posted - 2013.01.28 16:15:00 -
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Alldin Kan wrote:Heavies are only OP when they move in a group of 3 with HMGs. Better pop out your mass drivers and flux grenades when this happens.
That requires a brain, most blueberries lack such, and thus, get rolfstomped and whine to ccp. |
Paran Tadec
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Posted - 2013.01.28 16:17:00 -
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Volgair wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:why isnt it the only thing everyone has skilled into? Hmm Because its not the most abuse-able roll on the battle field, and lets face it Proto Assault with Proto fittings is a much better combination of survival and fire power then the Proto Heavy at 1/3 the price. Those of us who were around at the end of last build who are willing to remember that, are not asking for a nerf. In fact one might go so far as to ask for a buff for the Proto Heavy.
Proto heavies def need a buff. Theres a tread on it somewhere I will have to find it again, but it calls for a buff in base HP for the heavy suits instead of more fitting slots, so it'd be the only line of suits that increase HP with tiers. |
Kaserai Mandrag
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.01.28 16:18:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:why isnt it the only thing everyone has skilled into? Hmm
Primarily because the Heavy is not OP. If we are going to base our preferences of "overpowered" on how hard it is to kill, then that would make a Shotgun scout the top OP class in the game.
If I see a scout using a Shotgun near my heavy, I either run or do everything I can to "hopefully" kill him. However, when you think about it, the Enforcer can easily dispatch Scouts. Does this make the Enforcer OP? No, it does not. The entire game has checks and balances. Although their will still be many whiners, the game is about as balanced as it can get. |
Paran Tadec
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Posted - 2013.01.28 16:21:00 -
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Kaserai Mandrag wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:why isnt it the only thing everyone has skilled into? Hmm Primarily because the Heavy is not OP. If we are going to base our preferences of "overpowered" on how hard it is to kill, then that would make a Shotgun scout the top OP class in the game. If I see a scout using a Shotgun near my heavy, I either run or do everything I can to "hopefully" kill him. However, when you think about it, the Enforcer can easily dispatch Scouts. Does this make the Enforcer OP? No, it does not. The entire game has checks and balances. Although their will still be many whiners, the game is about as balanced as it can get.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1rTmshevsE you mean like this? ;) However, notice its being used the way it was intended, just like the heavy + hmg. |
Sentient Archon
Red Star.
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Posted - 2013.01.28 16:24:00 -
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LOL. Heavies? OP? SMH and LMFAO! |
Cosorvin
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.01.28 16:25:00 -
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KripnawtiQ Prime wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:why isnt it the only thing everyone has skilled into? Hmm I think people don't spec into heavies because deep down they know dam well that the class has limitations and drawbacks. Assault is a much safer place to bet your SP. Almost as safe as hiding behind the scope of a sniper rifle from the redline.
I went for heavy so I would be unique, and love it so far. I always see a spam of assault people so you can understand why I changed.
I also went for laser rifle for those long range maps and its really fun too.
Ironically both have the nerf eye on them, but I don't think HMG will get nerfed because the whiners are the minority and the HMG defenders are the majority. |
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