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new hulk
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.01.28 08:20:00 -
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Here is my challenge pick the weapons you think is op.
Create a alternate character and see the disadvantages you got,
So now is the time while the game is Yong.
So put your money where your mouth is can't wait to kill you so called heavy haters. :)
And remember have fun. |
Three Double-A Batteries
Fraternity of St. Venefice
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.01.28 08:26:00 -
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And remember people. The game is "Yong". |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming
642
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Posted - 2013.01.28 08:29:00 -
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I was always an assault player, up until a few months ago. Tbh I thought playing as a heavy would be easy. Man was I wrong. Don't get me wrong, when I position myself for kills, it does come easy, but every role is easy WHEN played well.
People think being a heavy is easy because we have more HP and an HMG, but it's this very reason we are the #1 target in a group of people. When I was assault, I would target heavies at range because they were easy targets...when I snipe on the rare occasion, heavies are easy targets.
A heavy is at home in CQC, and when a heavy totally dominates a game, it shows he knew how to position himself to get kills. Playing Assault is easy mode (no offense intended) compared to heavy, as being a heavy is VERY SITUATIONAL, while an Assault player is very versatile, CQC and mid range is his playground.
And as always I will say:
Low lvl Heavy > Low lvl Assault
High lvl Heavy < High lvl Assault |
SoTa PoP Clone
Condotta Rouvenor
Gallente Federation
60
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Posted - 2013.01.28 08:37:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:I was always an assault player, up until a few months ago. Tbh I thought playing as a heavy would be easy. Man was I wrong. Don't get me wrong, when I position myself for kills, it does come easy, but every role is easy WHEN played well.
People think being a heavy is easy because we have more HP and an HMG, but it's this very reason we are the #1 target in a group of people. When I was assault, I would target heavies at range because they were easy targets...when I snipe on the rare occasion, heavies are easy targets.
A heavy is at home in CQC, and when a heavy totally dominates a game, it shows he knew how to position himself to get kills. Playing Assault is easy mode (no offense intended) compared to heavy, as being a heavy is VERY SITUATIONAL, while an Assault player is very versatile, CQC and mid range is his playground.
And as always I will say:
Low lvl Heavy > Low lvl Assault
High lvl Heavy < High lvl Assault
Wait till the proto gears get compared. The Newberries who went heavy will be crying up a **** storm |
Pimp Hand Strong
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
5
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Posted - 2013.01.28 08:38:00 -
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I see no disadvantages , point and click the meat grinder and thats all she wrote.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nPz_GZeCNs |
KripnawtiQ Prime
L.O.T.I.S.
Legacy Rising
207
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Posted - 2013.01.28 08:46:00 -
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Surely not srs |
General Tiberius1
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
206
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Posted - 2013.01.28 08:49:00 -
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got wiped twice right before making proto heavy.
stopped playing till a few days ago as a result.
is proto heavy really that bad? |
new hulk
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
49
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Posted - 2013.01.28 08:56:00 -
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General Tiberius1 wrote:got wiped twice right before making proto heavy.
stopped playing till a few days ago as a result.
is proto heavy really that bad?
Yes it is it is out done, think of a assault with 4 dmg mods and 2 armor up grades and 2 reps lol. |
new hulk
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
49
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Posted - 2013.01.28 09:00:00 -
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Three Double-A Batteries wrote:And remember people. The game is "Yong".
Listen guy if all you have to do is troll please go troll some where else.
so i forgot a u lol omg. You couldn't understand my post but everyone could huh so your true intelligence has shown through
i made a mistake but you sir where a mistake . |
General Tiberius1
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
206
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Posted - 2013.01.28 09:03:00 -
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new hulk wrote:General Tiberius1 wrote:got wiped twice right before making proto heavy.
stopped playing till a few days ago as a result.
is proto heavy really that bad? Yes it is it is out done, think of a assault with 4 dmg mods and 2 armor up grades and 2 reps lol.
well crap!  |
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SoTa PoP
Internal Error.
Negative-Feedback
1772
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Posted - 2013.01.28 09:06:00 -
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General Tiberius1 wrote:new hulk wrote:General Tiberius1 wrote:got wiped twice right before making proto heavy.
stopped playing till a few days ago as a result.
is proto heavy really that bad? Yes it is it is out done, think of a assault with 4 dmg mods and 2 armor up grades and 2 reps lol. well crap!
It's worse then that. It's not even that we're completely out moded. A proto heavy Type-II variant costs 250,000 per suit. An assault version - 100,000... |
General Tiberius1
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
206
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Posted - 2013.01.28 09:07:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:General Tiberius1 wrote:new hulk wrote:General Tiberius1 wrote:got wiped twice right before making proto heavy.
stopped playing till a few days ago as a result.
is proto heavy really that bad? Yes it is it is out done, think of a assault with 4 dmg mods and 2 armor up grades and 2 reps lol. well crap! It's worse then that. It's not even that we're completely out moded. A proto heavy Type-II variant costs 250,000 per suit. An assault version - 100,000...
you can thank the people who it nerfed 3 times for that |
Y0UR NAME HERE
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
444
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Posted - 2013.01.28 09:09:00 -
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new hulk wrote:Here is my challenge pick the weapons you think is op.
Create a alternate character and see the disadvantages you got,
So now is the time while the game is Yong.
So put your money where your mouth is can't wait to kill you so called heavy haters. :)
And remember have fun.
+1 this is def needed. |
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ChribbaX
Otherworld Enterprises Dust Control
Otherworld Empire Productions
136
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Posted - 2013.01.28 09:12:00 -
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hulkageddon? |
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new hulk
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
49
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Posted - 2013.01.28 09:36:00 -
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ChribbaX wrote:hulkageddon?
Love the name, and see how the op cry babies aren't post here.?
Lol |
2-Ton Twenty-One
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
235
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Posted - 2013.01.28 09:40:00 -
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General Tiberius1 wrote:got wiped twice right before making proto heavy.
stopped playing till a few days ago as a result.
is proto heavy really that bad?
It does need work
out of all the proto suits its the least popular and gives the least advantage.
It really needs a 3rd low slot and a 4th high slot as it cannot carry equipment and the suit costs a fortune.
or just a 3rd low slot |
new hulk
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
49
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Posted - 2013.01.28 09:45:00 -
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2-Ton Twenty-One wrote:General Tiberius1 wrote:got wiped twice right before making proto heavy.
stopped playing till a few days ago as a result.
is proto heavy really that bad? It does need work out of all the proto suits its the least popular and gives the least advantage. It really needs a 3rd low slot and a 4th high slot as it cannot carry equipment and the suit costs a fortune. or just a 3rd low slot
I would rather have the third high slot to saturate the assaults and scouts with damage and raw power the when you see a heavy
you will run even if it's not black. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
1849
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Posted - 2013.01.28 09:52:00 -
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new hulk wrote:i made a mistake but you sir where a mistake .
That should be "were" and +1 to the guy you quoted.
But +1 to your OP, because it's REALLY good advice, and it's advice I've been giving to people who cry "OP" or just "noobish" in a lot of games. I first learned the concept of trying the tactics people complain about in Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood. |
Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S.
Legacy Rising
401
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Posted - 2013.01.28 09:53:00 -
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General Tiberius1 wrote:got wiped twice right before making proto heavy.
stopped playing till a few days ago as a result.
is proto heavy really that bad?
Assault with four SIDEARM damage mods can pistol whip a heavy/HMG no problem.
Doing heavy HMG for another month just to really see what all the defects are then its bye,bye fatty and hello! new you in either Logi, Assault or Scout.
All my SP is going to core skills and ZIP!, nothing for HMG or heavy suit.
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new hulk
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
49
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Posted - 2013.01.28 10:16:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:new hulk wrote:i made a mistake but you sir where a mistake . That should be "were" and +1 to the guy you quoted. But +1 to your OP, because it's REALLY good advice, and it's advice I've been giving to people who cry "OP" or just "noobish" in a lot of games. I first learned the concept of trying the tactics people complain about in Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood.
Sorry i can't spell i can't sleep the va hasn't sent me my meds in a while or they are getting stolen from the post office. So excuse me for not able to spell very good. |
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Ten-Sidhe
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
414
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Posted - 2013.01.28 10:32:00 -
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Side arms are good in cqc, so being beat by one is not that bad. Sidearm means a weapon worn at side, not a weak secondary. They often are, but not always. A katana is a sidearm, it was not secondary to the samurai.
In e3 and precursor builds I went scout/smg specialist, smg at point blank are nasty and not affected by circle strafing as bad as other weapons. They just had to almost be in melee range to circle a hmg faster then it could turn. Back then it was long range sniper, mid ar, close hmg, even closer smg for most effective weapon. Shotguns and mass drivers were not that common it seemed and laser didn't exist yet.
HMG heavies look like they work as intended to me. Run straight at one and die, face one in great position and die. Ar at range or smg or shotgun very close can take one down. Rapid scrambler head shots also do a number.
The proto heavy needs a buff, nobody has sp for them yet, but they don't gain as much as other suits. I think +1high and low slot and small hp buff to make up for not gaining +1equip slot like other proto suits would be perfect.
I tried heavy, not my play style in forge or hmg flavors, so I'm not says buff what I use. They add more heavy weapons I may give it another try, in meantime I will stick with scout and assault. |
new hulk
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
49
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Posted - 2013.01.28 10:32:00 -
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So where are the cry babies that are going to merc up and take the challenge? |
new hulk
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
49
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Posted - 2013.01.28 10:53:00 -
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Well? |
General Tiberius1
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
206
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Posted - 2013.01.28 15:30:00 -
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they're hipocrites, all of them |
Paper Cutter
Sinq Laison Gendarmes
Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2013.01.28 15:53:00 -
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Here i am! my kdr is a little better than my alt, but i need a logi, I've only specced tier one hmg and free heavy suits. Any logis want to help? |
Drado Arona
Kirkinen Risk Control
Caldari State
64
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Posted - 2013.01.28 15:58:00 -
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Ten-Sidhe wrote:A katana is a sidearm, it was not secondary to the samurai.
(Although this has nothing to do with dust!)
Correct, the Katana was a Tertiary weapon to the samurai.
Yumi bow (Main typically)
Spears
then katana!
All in all every weapon in dust is strong in it's own points. (I've watched many die to a sniper with a pistol in cqc) But my shotgun logi will beat the pistol typically. |
Paran Tadec
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
902
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Posted - 2013.01.28 16:05:00 -
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Exactly. How many crybabies whining about something actually tried using whatever they are crying about? |
James-5955
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
RISE of LEGION
151
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Posted - 2013.01.28 16:07:00 -
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Being an assault guy in the previous builds and having started the same way in this one I made an alt heavy (Pezz IsDank) 1-2 weeks ago.
It isn't that hard to stay within HMG range, and it shreds people so quickly that most encounters are laughable. Type II suit has around 350 shields for me, that's enough for me to not need a logibro since shields recharge fast enough and most enemies won't get a chance to do more than 350 damage.
It does suck being slow and being a first target for most people, but as long as you stay with your team it's a cakewalk. I'm not for heavies being nerfed though, maybe a slight tweak to the HMG to make it slightly less effective at range for more damage. Nothing big, of course even stating that classifies me as a whiner in the eyes of some lol.
IMO the class is fine the way it is, I don't think it's hard to play but I don't think it needs any nerfing. The hard counter is ridiculously effective anyway.. scout with a shotgun. |
new hulk
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
49
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Posted - 2013.01.28 17:36:00 -
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Ok first everyone has a sharp shooter skill correct the heavy ay tange drops on it's face in dmg .lasers suck up close sub machine gun is almost got as much range as a heavy. Sniper is a easy way out for people to worried about kdr. |
Y0UR NAME HERE
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
444
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Posted - 2013.01.28 17:41:00 -
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new hulk wrote:Ok first everyone has a sharp shooter skill correct the heavy ay tange drops on it's face in dmg .lasers suck up close sub machine gun is almost got as much range as a heavy. Sniper is a easy way out for people to worried about kdr.
I=worried about kdr, I are LR user....KDR=fine lol
But ya alot of people snipe for kdr, but end up getting sniped more times then if they actually tried.
Some though, like sleepy zan......my arch nemesis muhaha is a true sniper and simply runs around with the squad eating people.
Imo he's a turd cuz I always seem to barley not get him, then pop goes the weasel and I'm toast. |
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