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Void Echo
A.I.
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Posted - 2013.01.28 07:33:00 -
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Hi, I'm Void Echo, I'm a hardcore tanker (yes, I have the **** to back that up) in Dust514. When I'm driving my gunnlogi tank through the battle field killing every enemy I see, it really annoys me when someone on my own team intentionally rams into my tank and basically commits suicide and killing the other person riding in the lav that ramed into me, I have good shields but it just annoys me because I know there intentionally doing it, yes I know its intentional because on the road of the map I'm driving on, there's enough room for 2 tanks to make a blockade longways and the lav driver makes no move to avoid me, they infact speed up and drive directly into me.
In order to stop this annoyance, I suggest that they get -50 for killing themselves plus -50 for every teammate killed when they ram into an allied vehicle only. This should only be done to the driver of the lav. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
3064
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Posted - 2013.01.28 07:48:00 -
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Additionally, they should tone down the ridiculous friendly vehicle collision damage. |
Thranx1231
CowTek
90
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Posted - 2013.01.28 08:24:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:Hi, I'm Void Echo, I'm a hardcore tanker (yes, I have the **** to back that up) in Dust514. Hmm. What in the world could those four asterisks mean? The list of words that would suggest it must be starred out does not have many that have positive connotations for hardcore, tanker nor backing up. The words I come up with, that are positive, do not need stars. There are some other choices however:
****, always a crowd favorite.
****, from my personal best *s list.
****, used by the common man.
****, by the elitist.
****, by thugs.
Also ****, **** and we must never forget ****!
Kitten them one and all.
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KalOfTheRathi
CowTek
168
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Posted - 2013.01.28 08:36:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:-- Snip -- it really annoys me when someone on my own team intentionally rams into my tank and basically commits suicide and killing the other person riding in the lav that rammed into me -- more with the snip -- Funny posts aside this is probably related to their constant model/mesh(map) collision problems. If there is any clipping into a structure DUST Devs seem to blow them up as a normal reaction. This would explain the completely out of proportion responses to seemingly minor collisions. This can exacerbated by two clients not resolving the collision with server to your benefit.
The suicidal drivers do make me want for some Instant Karma button. Of course, if you could shoot them with your HAV that would be close enough, for me. Alas, no Friendly Fire as yet. |
Void Echo
A.I.
26
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Posted - 2013.01.28 17:15:00 -
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Yes but the fact that they continue to deliberately ram into my tank really annoys me, I'm not scared about losing my shieldd because I have over 6000 with 2 -11.5 damage reduction modules and a good booster. I'm just annoyed because it takes away my atteontion from the enemy to try and avoid the friendly lav withich turns out irrelevant. |
Y0UR NAME HERE
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
445
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Posted - 2013.01.28 17:21:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:Hi, I'm Void Echo, I'm a hardcore tanker (yes, I have the **** to back that up) in Dust514. When I'm driving my gunnlogi tank through the battle field killing every enemy I see, it really annoys me when someone on my own team intentionally rams into my tank and basically commits suicide and killing the other person riding in the lav that ramed into me, I have good shields but it just annoys me because I know there intentionally doing it, yes I know its intentional because on the road of the map I'm driving on, there's enough room for 2 tanks to make a blockade longways and the lav driver makes no move to avoid me, they infact speed up and drive directly into me.
In order to stop this annoyance, I suggest that they get -50 for killing themselves plus -50 for every teammate killed when they ram into an allied vehicle only. This should only be done to the driver of the lav.
I agree with this, I've had people come in swarms of 3 lav's on friendly team to purposely ram me, haven't died to it yet, but they seem to time it with enemy AV.
They also park behind and in front of me to block me in.......stupid Newberrys. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
3064
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Posted - 2013.01.28 18:51:00 -
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I wonder if the friendly vehicle collision damage is intentional. |
Thranx1231
CowTek
90
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Posted - 2013.01.31 06:49:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:I wonder if the friendly vehicle collision damage is intentional. While I wish I had the same wonder as you Kage, the reality is I know that they are intentional. Blues Lavs come flying in odd directions then head directly for the HAV. Definitely on purpose and it is really irritating. Makes me wish I could vote them over to the Red side.
The extreme cases of destruction, I hope, are mesh/model problems as CCP seems to have consistent problems solving those types of conditions. Drop Ships exploding on touch down, HAVs blowing up randomly (been in one) that are obviously mesh problems and such just highlight the extent of the problem. One of my first ever test drives in a Militia HAV started with an exploding Blue LAV, causing me to wait until my shields came back up. |
10mg PLUMBUM
Academy Inferno
73
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Posted - 2013.01.31 06:59:00 -
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Shield tank must suffer |
Y0UR NAME HERE
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
445
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Posted - 2013.01.31 07:17:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:Hi, I'm Void Echo, I'm a hardcore tanker (yes, I have the **** to back that up) in Dust514. When I'm driving my gunnlogi tank through the battle field killing every enemy I see, it really annoys me when someone on my own team intentionally rams into my tank and basically commits suicide and killing the other person riding in the lav that ramed into me, I have good shields but it just annoys me because I know there intentionally doing it, yes I know its intentional because on the road of the map I'm driving on, there's enough room for 2 tanks to make a blockade longways and the lav driver makes no move to avoid me, they infact speed up and drive directly into me.
In order to stop this annoyance, I suggest that they get -50 for killing themselves plus -50 for every teammate killed when they ram into an allied vehicle only. This should only be done to the driver of the lav.
You know whats more annoying then that? and thats pretty annoying.
Today I survived an orbital with my gunloggi, shields sit at 8k.
I survived with half shields, backed up and hit a pole at i'd say lil less then half speed. Gunnlogi exploded.
The orbital was long over when this occurred.
So which is more annoying? LAV's running you over OR if you touch something with your tank it detonates?
EDIT
I also ran at under half speed today(on purpose) into a friendly myron. It exploded killing all 6. Was a sad day in new eden.
The drop pilot raged quit. |
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KalOfTheRathi
CowTek
168
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Posted - 2013.01.31 07:26:00 -
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Y0UR NAME HERE wrote:-- snip --I survived with half shields, backed up and hit a pole at i'd say lil less then half speed. Gunnlogi exploded.
The orbital was long over when this occurred.
So which is more annoying? LAV's running you over OR if you touch something with your tank it detonates? YOUR NAME HERE you should report this in the Map Feedback section (top level Forum shows them). Then try to recall the map, map name and the grid location of the the pole as closely as you can.
The problem is between the 3D model of your HAV and the mesh of the map. Reporting it can get the map team to be able to look at it. Hopefully they can find a problem and fix it.
Otherwise it is more of there generic Model/Mesh collision problems. When the clients and server get something over lapped (which in normal day physics isn't possible) the default solution is to blow our stuff up. It wouldn't work to blow up the non-destructable map.
Please consider logging it as both Map Feedback and a [Bug] in the tech support/bugs section. The more information we can provide them, and bug them about, the more likely it can be solved eventually.
Sorry about the Gunnlogi.  |
Herrick Arcos
The Shadow Cavalry Mercenaries
56
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Posted - 2013.01.31 07:29:00 -
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You all are forgetting that fenders, shock reduction, seat belts and airbags don't exist here. Catastrophic whiplash. Simple as that. |
Y0UR NAME HERE
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
445
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Posted - 2013.01.31 07:43:00 -
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Herrick Arcos wrote:You all are forgetting that fenders, shock reduction, seat belts and airbags don't exist here. Catastrophic whiplash. Simple as that.
I use inertial dampening in my gunnlogi, I'm sorry your minmatar bro...... duck tape doesn't cut eh? |
Herrick Arcos
The Shadow Cavalry Mercenaries
56
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Posted - 2013.01.31 07:47:00 -
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Y0UR NAME HERE wrote:Herrick Arcos wrote:You all are forgetting that fenders, shock reduction, seat belts and airbags don't exist here. Catastrophic whiplash. Simple as that. I use inertial dampening in my gunnlogi, I'm sorry your minmatar bro...... duck tape doesn't cut eh?
Wachu bad mouthin my duck tape? Just because you got your fancy shmancy inertial dampernering whachamacalit dont mean yer better than I is... why you just understand here that I'm not done im finished.... outy 53 on your sorry hidemabobber. Peace yall. |
Void Echo
A.I.
26
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Posted - 2013.02.01 17:31:00 -
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I don't care about orbitals or precision strikes, I'm honored when the enemy team tries everything to kill my tank because I know that without me my team would be losing. What I'm annoyed by is that teammates are always ramming their lavs intentionally into my gunnlogi, its very annoying. |
Irish Syn
Chernova Industries
123
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Posted - 2013.02.01 18:56:00 -
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Additionally, I say remove collision damage with deployment vehicles all together. Anyone fly with a dropship and have these things appear out of thin air right in front of you?
It'd be fine if they came in from out of bonds so you can see them coming, but if they insist on just having them appear out of nowhere then damage needs to be removed. |
JohnDS Wolf
Exit Wound Heavy Industries
10
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Posted - 2013.02.01 19:00:00 -
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yah, friendly Exploding LAV's via traffic acciedent is not fun. it takes down all sheilds and damages the tank a bit. it's bad enuff with enemy LAV's trying to ram yah. but what if a friendly losses control, it's not a good idea man. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
3064
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Posted - 2013.02.02 17:41:00 -
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I can't imagine why CCP would make just tapping a friendly LAV on a friendly HAV result in instant doom. It needs to be toned down. |
Void Echo
A.I.
26
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Posted - 2013.02.04 02:32:00 -
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This is still a problem |
Patoman Radiant
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
53
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Posted - 2013.02.04 02:40:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:I can't imagine why CCP would make just tapping a friendly LAV on a friendly HAV result in instant doom. It needs to be toned down.
That is what would happen, its worse than a truck hiting a car. give it most of the momentum is from the jeep, which is basically hitting a brick wall, no harder, a reinforced steel wall.
If it gets caught in the treds, well then its crushed like a can, I think a you tube video exists of some guys running a car over with a tank.
Don't go full speed everywhere and or learn to drive. |
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Coleman Gray
Coalition Of Goverments
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Posted - 2013.02.04 03:45:00 -
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I understand collision damage but when I move forward a little in my tank and scratch my paint on a lamp post, I expect the lamppost to be worse of then me XD |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
3064
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Posted - 2013.02.14 08:33:00 -
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Vehicle collisions in general needs to be seriously reexamined. |
trollsroyce
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
165
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Posted - 2013.02.14 09:43:00 -
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I support this and would like ALL friendly/neutral collision damage to go for non-FF games. I often have 1-4 of my own team trying to run ejected LAV's and dropships on me intentionally to punish me for bringing officer guns into pubs. |
Void Echo
A.I.
26
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Posted - 2013.02.16 19:36:00 -
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Oh so that's what there doing, still damn annoying |
Baal Roo
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
811
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Posted - 2013.02.16 22:43:00 -
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I guarantee the friendly vehicle on vehicle stuff is intentional, and I see absolutely no reason to get rid of it. We need MORE friendly fire, not less.
Bringing a 1 Mil ISK tank into a noob filled pub match is a **** move, and deserves **** moves in response, regardless of which team you are on. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
3064
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Posted - 2013.02.21 22:01:00 -
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Baal Roo wrote:I guarantee the friendly vehicle on vehicle stuff is intentional, and I see absolutely no reason to get rid of it. We need MORE friendly fire, not less.
Bringing a 1 Mil ISK tank into a noob filled pub match is a **** move, and deserves **** moves in response, regardless of which team you are on.
I have no problem with friendly damage, but the degree of it is far too extreme. Instant destruction is way too much for barely hitting a friendly HAV.
It like a scout running into a friendly heavy and he instantly dies. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
3064
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Posted - 2013.02.26 23:36:00 -
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Still excessive |
BOZ MR
BurgezzE.T.F
Orion Empire
15
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Posted - 2013.02.27 05:11:00 -
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I sometimes intentionally kill friendy LAV's with my tank if they decide to make a close pass.(Like really close)(That will teach them not to drive carelessly around a tank.) |
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