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Kalante Schiffer
UnReaL.
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Posted - 2013.01.26 07:18:00 -
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I know its two of them but the other one requires AUR and i dont have AUR anymore. The problem is that there is no difference in power between the advance assault riffles from the first ones such as the GEK. WTF. There is still other ARs left to unlock but i wont even gonna bother with them because the assault riffle types are breach, burst shot, and one shot. they suck balls and are too expensive. |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming
642
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Posted - 2013.01.26 07:25:00 -
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Kalante Schiffer wrote:I know its two of them but the other one requires AUR and i dont have AUR anymore. The problem is that there is no difference in power between the advance assault riffles than the first ones such as the GEK. WTF. There is still other ARs left to unlock but i wont even gonna bother with them because the assault riffle types are breach, burst shot, and one shot. they suck balls and are too expensive.
Too weak? You mean the Prototype gun that shoots 34.1 dmg (+ 10% from Weaponry lvl 5) at 750RPM, with hardly any recoil, tbh we can say no recoil, is weak?
I am honestly not sure if you're serious or trolling...
But to address the AUR GEK... yes it's advanced BUT it has Protoype dmg, and that requires you to pay real money to use. If you want to use the ISK version of the gun, you'll need to lvl up, and pay up.
Welcome to a F2P game. Want to get better faster? You pay real money for stuff you need to lvl up more for. |
SoTa PoP Clone
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
60
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Posted - 2013.01.26 07:28:00 -
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Of course he's serious. Where in game does it say anything about those little features that mean so much about the gun? Looking at the stats themselves don't show you a damn thing. He's right in that regard. |
Mr Zitro
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
417
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Posted - 2013.01.26 07:32:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Kalante Schiffer wrote:I know its two of them but the other one requires AUR and i dont have AUR anymore. The problem is that there is no difference in power between the advance assault riffles than the first ones such as the GEK. WTF. There is still other ARs left to unlock but i wont even gonna bother with them because the assault riffle types are breach, burst shot, and one shot. they suck balls and are too expensive. Too weak? You mean the Prototype gun that shoots 34.1 dmg (+ 10% from Weaponry lvl 5) at 750RPM, with hardly any recoil, tbh we can say no recoil, is weak? I am honestly not sure if you're serious or trolling... Recoil stays the same, it barley changes with operation. Go check tiel's spreedsheet then talk about it being worth it |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming
642
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Posted - 2013.01.26 07:34:00 -
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SoTa PoP Clone wrote:Of course he's serious. Where in game does it say anything about those little features that mean so much about the gun? Looking at the stats themselves don't show you a damn thing. He's right in that regard.
I must be high or something to not know when I'm getting trolled but I'll give it a shot...
Maybe I misread your comment... "Where in game does it say anything about those little features that mean so much about the gun? Looking at the stats themselves don't show you a damn thing. He's right in that regard"
You press Triangle, press R2 once, and like magic the stats of the gun pop up. Don't press R2 and you can read about the gun... |
Kalante Schiffer
UnReaL.
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Posted - 2013.01.26 07:34:00 -
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i mean seriously people, you guys know that there is barely any difference in performance when you use them in battle. |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming
642
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Posted - 2013.01.26 07:36:00 -
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Mr Zitro wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Kalante Schiffer wrote:I know its two of them but the other one requires AUR and i dont have AUR anymore. The problem is that there is no difference in power between the advance assault riffles than the first ones such as the GEK. WTF. There is still other ARs left to unlock but i wont even gonna bother with them because the assault riffle types are breach, burst shot, and one shot. they suck balls and are too expensive. Too weak? You mean the Prototype gun that shoots 34.1 dmg (+ 10% from Weaponry lvl 5) at 750RPM, with hardly any recoil, tbh we can say no recoil, is weak? I am honestly not sure if you're serious or trolling... Recoil stays the same, it barley changes with operation. Go check tiel's spreedsheet then talk about it being worth it
lolrecoil... this game has no recoil unless you hold the trigger. Burst fire guns, and you don't see it....in fact you don't even need to ADS for anything less than 20m away. |
Mr Zitro
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
417
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Posted - 2013.01.26 07:38:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Mr Zitro wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Kalante Schiffer wrote:I know its two of them but the other one requires AUR and i dont have AUR anymore. The problem is that there is no difference in power between the advance assault riffles than the first ones such as the GEK. WTF. There is still other ARs left to unlock but i wont even gonna bother with them because the assault riffle types are breach, burst shot, and one shot. they suck balls and are too expensive. Too weak? You mean the Prototype gun that shoots 34.1 dmg (+ 10% from Weaponry lvl 5) at 750RPM, with hardly any recoil, tbh we can say no recoil, is weak? I am honestly not sure if you're serious or trolling... Recoil stays the same, it barley changes with operation. Go check tiel's spreedsheet then talk about it being worth it lolrecoil... this game has no recoil unless you hold the trigger. Burst fire guns, and you don't see it....in fact you don't even need to ADS for anything less than 20m away. Yes scrub tell me how to play... Go read my book and you will learn a thing or two! And while you're there read tiel's spreedsheet on weapons |
Mr Zitro
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
417
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Posted - 2013.01.26 07:39:00 -
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Stupid double post |
Kalante Schiffer
UnReaL.
183
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Posted - 2013.01.26 07:43:00 -
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the only way i see to find out their true potential is to reach the maximum level, yes there is more power left for those guns but as for right now we cant truly tell. i mean who has LvL 5 x5 Range, and Damage right now? |
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Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming
642
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Posted - 2013.01.26 07:44:00 -
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Why so angry? woooooosaaaaaa
never told you how to play... just saying, what recoil? lolCOD and lolBF3 has more recoil than DUST.
I saw people last build rocking Duvolles... yet you ask if it's worth it? If it's not worth it, why use it? Like how some people say using proto suits aren't worth it, yet I saw people rocking proto gear ALL the time last build.
Is it worth it you ask? I'm asking why every assault guy still use it?
If it's not worth it, then use militia gear in corp matches and pubs. |
Tiel Syysch
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
634
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Posted - 2013.01.26 08:19:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:yet you ask if it's worth it? If it's not worth it, why use it?
Because people are ignorant and assume it's doing something different. |
SoTa PoP Clone
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
60
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Posted - 2013.01.26 08:20:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:SoTa PoP Clone wrote:Of course he's serious. Where in game does it say anything about those little features that mean so much about the gun? Looking at the stats themselves don't show you a damn thing. He's right in that regard. I must be high or something to not know when I'm getting trolled but I'll give it a shot... Maybe I misread your comment... "Where in game does it say anything about those little features that mean so much about the gun? Looking at the stats themselves don't show you a damn thing. He's right in that regard" You press Triangle, press R2 once, and like magic the stats of the gun pop up. Don't press R2 and you can read about the gun... It tells you the recoil value of the gun? News to me. Guess I need another look. |
Breakin Stuff
Immobile Infantry
680
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Posted - 2013.01.26 08:22:00 -
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This quote has been brought to you by the corp that not only wants the AR to be the best possible weapon in every situation ever, but wants your controller to electrocute you every time you get shot with one to remind you that you're a scrub. |
Tiel Syysch
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
634
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Posted - 2013.01.26 08:32:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:This quote has been brought to you by the corp that not only wants the AR to be the best possible weapon in every situation ever, but wants your controller to electrocute you every time you get shot with one to remind you that you're a scrub.
Wat. You realize that 1) I don't use ARs, and 2) my thread uses 5 different weapons as data, right? |
Schazla
WarRavens
159
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Posted - 2013.01.26 08:51:00 -
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No OP, they are not weak, I want better range on my HMG. It is not waek. You don't have the modules to deal with heavys. |
Sleepy Zan
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
2049
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Posted - 2013.01.26 08:53:00 -
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Tiel Syysch wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:This quote has been brought to you by the corp that not only wants the AR to be the best possible weapon in every situation ever, but wants your controller to electrocute you every time you get shot with one to remind you that you're a scrub. Wat. You realize that 1) I don't use ARs, and 2) my thread uses 5 different weapons as data, right? Lets face it Tiel he got us, Imperfect master plan has been revealed. Torture the scrubs. |
Kalante Schiffer
UnReaL.
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Posted - 2013.01.26 08:59:00 -
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Schazla wrote:No OP, they are not weak, I want better range on my HMG. It is not waek. You don't have the modules to deal with heavys. n*gga please ive improved tremendously the last two weeks on the art of assault riffles. heavies are not much of a problem to me anymore.
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Schazla
WarRavens
159
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Posted - 2013.01.26 09:03:00 -
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Kalante Schiffer wrote:Schazla wrote:No OP, they are not weak, I want better range on my HMG. It is not waek. You don't have the modules to deal with heavys. n*gga please ive improved tremendously the last two weeks on the art of assault riffles. heavies are not much of a problem to me anymore. Wow, another guy who thinks he is the best Dust 514 player ever. A BRICK IS ONLY AS STORNG AS THE BRICK UNDERNEATH IT!
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Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
285
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Posted - 2013.01.26 09:04:00 -
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Use the regular ones then. |
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Kalante Schiffer
UnReaL.
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Posted - 2013.01.26 09:05:00 -
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Schazla wrote:Kalante Schiffer wrote:Schazla wrote:No OP, they are not weak, I want better range on my HMG. It is not waek. You don't have the modules to deal with heavys. n*gga please ive improved tremendously the last two weeks on the art of assault riffles. heavies are not much of a problem to me anymore. Wow, another guy who thinks he is the best Dust 514 player ever. A BRICK IS ONLY AS STORNG AS THE BRICK UNDERNEATH IT! when did i say i am the best? i am just implying that i am not a noob anymore.
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Schazla
WarRavens
159
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Posted - 2013.01.26 09:07:00 -
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Kalante Schiffer wrote:Schazla wrote:Kalante Schiffer wrote:Schazla wrote:No OP, they are not weak, I want better range on my HMG. It is not waek. You don't have the modules to deal with heavys. n*gga please ive improved tremendously the last two weeks on the art of assault riffles. heavies are not much of a problem to me anymore. Wow, another guy who thinks he is the best Dust 514 player ever. A BRICK IS ONLY AS STORNG AS THE BRICK UNDERNEATH IT! when did i say i am the best? i am just implying that i am not a noob anymore. Good. |
King Kobrah
SyNergy Gaming
33
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Posted - 2013.01.26 09:11:00 -
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well, if the weapon tables mentioned earlier are right, that's a lot if ISK and SP investment just to kill someone 1-2 bullets faster.
however, is it really worth all that stat investment for shield/armor tanking when you'll probably only survive 1-2 bullets more yourself?
maybe this is their way of balance. |
3 bird
DUST University Ivy League
87
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Posted - 2013.01.26 09:42:00 -
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Just adding my 2 pence worth and sorry but i haven't read all the responses so if its been said before, again I am sorry.
I don't believe that lvl 5 assault rifles, or any lvl 5 variant should be made uber, i believe the differences should be subtle but just about noticeable, that way the gear you use is as much apart of your ability to play as your skill is. If lvl5 gear gets buffed then the skill element goes out the window for lower level players.
So in short, I believe the difference is just right. just enough to be noticeably different but not so much it becomes uber gun of death. |
Takahiro Kashuken
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
102
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Posted - 2013.01.26 11:22:00 -
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WHat do you expect the weapons got flattened across the board
Out of the AR the GEK and its AUR varients are used mostly or its the BPO exile, the tac to nerfed to nothing and the breach fires way too slow but doesnt cause the damage it once used to so thats out
ARs are boring since the choice is 2 guns |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
2283
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Posted - 2013.01.26 14:12:00 -
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DUST has recoil?! |
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GM Unicorn
Game Masters C C P Alliance
320
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Posted - 2013.01.26 14:15:00 -
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Moved to Feedback |
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Oxskull Duncarino
Shadow Company HQ
165
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Posted - 2013.01.26 15:57:00 -
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3 bird wrote:Just adding my 2 pence worth and sorry but i haven't read all the responses so if its been said before, again I am sorry.
I don't believe that lvl 5 assault rifles, or any lvl 5 variant should be made uber, i believe the differences should be subtle but just about noticeable, that way the gear you use is as much apart of your ability to play as your skill is. If lvl5 gear gets buffed then the skill element goes out the window for lower level players.
So in short, I believe the difference is just right. just enough to be noticeably different but not so much it becomes uber gun of death. I've been saying this myself, and to be fair, everyone is entitled to their view. But Tiel Syysch did a spreadsheet that is a bit misleading as it only deals with exact 300hp, 400hp, 500hp, 600hp, etc, armors. Armor values are never like that. I've done a spreadsheet showing per bullet amount comparisons for the assault rifles to show that there is a one bolt difference between each of the level of AR against low hp armors, and two bolt differences against higher level armors. To me that is perfect as it's a slight edge, as it should be.
Assault rifle bullet by bullet damage comparison |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
1062
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Posted - 2013.01.26 16:07:00 -
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Kalante Schiffer wrote:i mean seriously people, you guys know that there is barely any difference in performance when you use them in battle. Please be trolling. Proto ARs practically kill you by pointing in your general direction. |
Oxskull Duncarino
Shadow Company HQ
165
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Posted - 2013.01.26 17:10:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Kalante Schiffer wrote:i mean seriously people, you guys know that there is barely any difference in performance when you use them in battle. Please be trolling. Proto ARs practically kill you by pointing in your general direction. Unfortunately not a troll |
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G Torq
ALTA B2O
88
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Posted - 2013.01.26 17:30:00 -
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King Kobrah wrote:well, if the weapon tables mentioned earlier are right, that's a lot if ISK and SP investment just to kill someone 1-2 bullets faster.
however, is it really worth all that stat investment for shield/armor tanking when you'll probably only survive 1-2 bullets more yourself?
maybe this is their way of balance.
Have mentioned this elsewhere, but if the difference in gear means that you can kill the other guy with 1 bullet less than he needs to kill you, then, all else being identical, the more expensive gear is worth it. |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming
642
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Posted - 2013.01.26 18:20:00 -
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SoTa PoP Clone wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:SoTa PoP Clone wrote:Of course he's serious. Where in game does it say anything about those little features that mean so much about the gun? Looking at the stats themselves don't show you a damn thing. He's right in that regard. I must be high or something to not know when I'm getting trolled but I'll give it a shot... Maybe I misread your comment... "Where in game does it say anything about those little features that mean so much about the gun? Looking at the stats themselves don't show you a damn thing. He's right in that regard" You press Triangle, press R2 once, and like magic the stats of the gun pop up. Don't press R2 and you can read about the gun... It tells you the recoil value of the gun? News to me. Guess I need another look.
Recoil value? WHAT RECOIL???
I must be seeing things, or I'm just a genius at handling an AR, cuz last time I picked up one, I saw ZERO recoil (when burst firing). Hold down the trigger like a noob, and then you'll see recoil.
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Firestorm Zulu
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
158
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Posted - 2013.01.26 18:32:00 -
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CCP needs to really look into this issue. I can't stand the fact we have the same gun that has increased stats 3 times. Other factors should change with completely different guns. I would rather play to unlock (to use a BF3 reference) an AEK or AN-94 as a teir 3 weapon, and have to play with an AUG or Carbine as a tier 1. Maybe even seperate the tiers by what type of attachments they can have. Just a thought. |
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