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Cynical Driver
Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.01.25 19:52:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Hate to break your bubble but Golden eye caused the FPS dont belong on console stigma in the first place.
Also like I said played it 3 years ago for the first time. The game if it had anything special for its time is not something I would try to reintroduce as is. Homeworld is considered a forever classic because I can still introduce it to a new person today and they would thouroghly enjoy it despite it being 10 years old. I mean which other game has the camera and gun on seperate axi? There is not a mordern shooter that does this, closest game I can recall is mech warrior II where is far more appropirate to have guns on seperate axi as the camera, after all some people had joystick and mouse and used the mouse to move the camera in the cockpit about.
Halo fixed it thanks to a controller scheme that worked (meanwhile medal of honor had no effing idea how to make shooter work using d-pad to aim ><)
No, Goldeneye was directly responsible for the FPS multiplayer madness we see now. You can credit Doom all you like, but if it were not for Goldeneye, consoles wouldn't have gotten online multiplayer FPS games as soon as they did. I'm not sure what reality you come from, but it must have been different than everyone else's. The multiplayer in Goldeneye proved that it can be done, and that it could be done on a console, not just a PC network. Was it the first multiplayer FPS? No, Doom (PC) and Marathon (MAC) take that honor. Was it the first "major" FPS on a "console"? YES! Was it the first multiplayer FPS on a "console"? YES!
Goldeneye was also the first FPS to introduce precise aiming, headshots, specialized animations for where the bullet hit the target, sniping (through a scope,) enemy awareness and stealth-routes. Learn some history before you try to attack a franchise that existed before your gaming days really began.
Now, as for Homeworld (wow, obscure!)... There is a reason why the camera and gun are on the same axi now. It makes sense, and having to juggle a camera and a gun separately (but at the same time) is ob-F*N-noxious. Standard control schemes at the time were still much better for precision control. I think the problem is that you are like my friend Kyle... You just HAVE to hate anything everyone else likes, and LOVE anything everyone else hates. I think it's simply in your nature to disagree with the masses, regardless of the logic involved. This makes you great for debates, but horrible for providing useful feedback on a game still undergoing the Beta process. If they listen to people like yourself, then this game will fail.
I will agree that Halo brought console FPS controls into the current age, and can be credited with validating online multiplayer FPS games for consoles. MOH sucked, as did any "shooters" on handheld systems prior to the Vita, because they didn't offer dual-analog controls. Shooters on touch-based systems (Android/iOS) also suck for this reason... Until you connect a PS3 controller to your Android device, then they become quite good.
You can take your "FPS experience" and place it in a dark, warm, location... You obviously have no idea what you are talking about when it comes to early FPS history. I was there, and played most of them, so don't wave it around like your e-peen is greater than anyone else's.
Even "Heretic" was better than Doom 2!! Wow... |
Ragmesesis
The Lusitans
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Posted - 2013.01.26 01:01:00 -
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what about perfect dark better in every way to golden eye its still one of my favorite fps |
Cynical Driver
Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.01.26 05:57:00 -
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Ragmesesis wrote:what about perfect dark better in every way to golden eye its still one of my favorite fps
I agree with you, but that doesn't change the fact that Goldeneye paved the way for future FPS games on consoles. Without Goldeneye, there would have been no Perfect Dark. |
Brass Stalker
Elite Mercenaries
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Posted - 2013.01.26 06:41:00 -
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Now doom 2 on the other hand belongs on the shelf of forever classics.
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Sobriety Denied
Universal Allies Inc.
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Posted - 2013.01.26 10:46:00 -
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thsgmeblows wrote:DJINN leukoplast wrote:thsgmeblows wrote:After giving this game a go,how can anyone support such a generic 1990's style of a game . The maps have nothing that makes them stand out,the vehicles seem to be to be a feeble attempt to try to be battlefield. the whole skill point system is flawed to say the least, besides the recoil all the guns in a particular class seem to be cut and paste. CCP needs to scratch everything they have done and start over,the idea they have is great but poorly executed. you all will start flaming this as soon as you read it but by todays standards this game is lightyears behind. The graphics are subpar, the gunplay is just sad, the game in general couldn't hold a candle to counter strike let alone any of the giants in fps gaming. The best game to implement the things they are doing here is MAG, one of the best if not the best shooter i ever played. Take this all in stride as this is just my opinion and they are like ***holes every one has got one. Got owned in your first match huh? Poor blueberry. Oh well, one less person that goes 0-30. We'll all shed a tear when you leave. Owned not hardly,love all u forum elitests who act like they are the best thing since sliced bread. Come play anything like BF3 or MOHWF against me and see who goes 0-30 you'll get face****** like the rest of them. Games like this cater to those with more time to play, and more money to spend. They spent more time on the marketplace then they did on core gameplay. Gameplay should be first,then graphics,then you worry about things like a marketplace and such. If they think this game will stand the test of time they've got a bumpy road ahead.
lolBF3...
impressive.. |
addsta01
The Southern Legion
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Posted - 2013.01.26 10:55:00 -
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thsgmeblows wrote:After giving this game a go,how can anyone support such a generic 1990's style of a game . The maps have nothing that makes them stand out,the vehicles seem to be to be a feeble attempt to try to be battlefield. the whole skill point system is flawed to say the least, besides the recoil all the guns in a particular class seem to be cut and paste. CCP needs to scratch everything they have done and start over,the idea they have is great but poorly executed. you all will start flaming this as soon as you read it but by todays standards this game is lightyears behind. The graphics are subpar, the gunplay is just sad, the game in general couldn't hold a candle to counter strike let alone any of the giants in fps gaming. The best game to implement the things they are doing here is MAG, one of the best if not the best shooter i ever played. Take this all in stride as this is just my opinion and they are like ***holes every one has got one.
Your intitled to your opinion even if its idiotic,I love this game the consept the wepons the gamplay everything and it will only get better... i think you just havent spent enough time in game? |
Ragmesesis
The Lusitans
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Posted - 2013.01.27 06:38:00 -
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Cynical Driver wrote:Ragmesesis wrote:what about perfect dark better in every way to golden eye its still one of my favorite fps I agree with you, but that doesn't change the fact that Goldeneye paved the way for future FPS games on consoles. Without Goldeneye, there would have been no Perfect Dark.
yes i dont say otherwise but people when they talk about console fps or n64 fps they forget perfect dark because it was goldeneye in everyway but perfect |
Darth Tyrannnus
Citadel Mercantile Exchange Amarr-Caldari Mercantile Exchange
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Posted - 2013.01.27 06:40:00 -
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[quote=BobThe843C I like it. and it's still in beta with a graphics update coming. Either way i like it and thts all tht matters. :D[/quote]
!!!!!graphics update? when!?!?!?!?
(wags tail excitedly) |
Darth Tyrannnus
Citadel Mercantile Exchange Amarr-Caldari Mercantile Exchange
26
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Posted - 2013.01.27 06:44:00 -
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that's it, someone has to explain what "metagame" is to me |
Banjo Hero
BurgezzE.T.F Orion Empire
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Posted - 2013.01.27 07:27:00 -
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Darth Tyrannnus wrote:that's it, someone has to explain what "metagame" is to me
The skilltree stuff, the market stuff, the fittings stuff, the corp stuff. All that stuff that's the game, but isn't the GAME game. |
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