DUST Search - For OPEN BETA players: How not to die so very often in Dust 514

Garrus Vik'arian wrote:

Fivetimes Infinity wrote:

If your crosshairs/sniper dot turn red when they are over an enemy, you are within range and will do some damage. If they do not turn red, you are outside of range and will be wasting ammo shooting at them.

Sniping isn't useless if you're good at it. If you get at least 15 kills you probably can continue sniping because you're probably more useful than the average AR grunt. If you snipe and you're getting only a handful of kills every game, you should stop and do something else. To avoid being a sitting duck as a sniper, you need to position yourself in places where you can't be easily shot from almost anywhere on the map. Positioning is a big part of being a good sniper.

Swarm launcher is good for LAVs/dropships, but for tanks you should have a militia forge gun build setup, ideally. Forge guns are far more reliable tank killers than swarm launchers.

So I learned something. Forge guns for tanks. I've heard of dropships outrunning swarm missiles.

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Garrus Vik'arian The Southern Legion 5	Posted - 2013.01.24 11:22:00 - [1] - Quote Allow me to welcome you to Dust 514. First and foremost, I'm not a long time veteran of Dust. I started the game just a week before the game went into Open Beta. However, I did notice a dramatic change in the Dust gaming landscape. And it's all thanks to you new players (yes you...). So I decided to write some tips for how to get acclimatized to this game for Ambush (I've played too few Skirmish battles to offer valuable advice). I'll probably write one about Skirmish some time later. AMBUSH 1) The Mexican standoff. I don't know why this happens. Perhaps the devs will fix it soon. You're probably complain, "WTF! I spawned right in front of 2 bad guys!?" Yes it happens. Remedy: Be prepared when you initially spawn in the game with the other players. For this reason, don't spawn in with the Sniper Rifle (unless you're really good with your sidearms). 2) Weapons have bad hit detection. I'm writing this because I've seen people using shotguns at medium distances and lasers at close distances. Learn the optimum engagement range with the weapons you're going to specialize at. Laser rifles are mid range weapons. Shotguns are short range weapons. If your rounds don't hit the enemy after the first few shots, you either missed, or the enemy is out of range. You can train the 'Sharpshooter' related skills to increase the max range of your weapon category by increments of 5% per level. 3) The Swarm Launcher. The Swarm Launcher is strictlty an anti-vehicle weapon. I've had my share of laughs killing players point blank because they're running around with a Swarm Launcher in hand hoping to shoot missiles at enemy soldiers for easy kills. 4) Snipers are useless! Trust me. This is the thing that made a big contribution to the changing landscape. There are bloody snipers everywhere now. And they die a lot. Now I know what quick-scoping is. And it doesn't exist in Dust. I've had people ask, "How do you hold your breath?" and "How do you steady the scope?" The answer: You can't hold your breath (at least not that I know of). The only way to steady the scope is to crouch. That makes you easy picking especially in a fast paced game like Ambush. 5) Tanks are uber godlike. No. They're not godlike... Don't let the Armor and Shield of the tanks (they amount in the hundreds to thousands) fool you. No tank goes into the battlefield solo (not in my country's Armed Forces at least). Infantry support tanks. It's the same in Dust 514. Don't go gung-ho in tanks unless you wanna go broke fast. People in Dust hate tanks. Whenever I see a tank, I go "Free War Points on the way..." (because I'm gonna get my Swarm Launcher or Forge Gun out) 6) Heavy Machine Gunners are so over powered. No they're not. HMG Heavies have terrible range. Heavies are slow. Heavies get winded fast. Use this to your advantage. I'm running out of time to write some more. I'm hoping the more experienced players write some more tips below. AND REMEMBER: IF ALL ELSE FAILS, just run with a big crowd of allies. You can't go wrong there.
Kamiya Musume Suffer Inc. 63	Posted - 2013.01.24 11:35:00 - [2] - Quote Possibly the most important piece of advice: DO NOT STAND STILL!
The Loathing The Southern Legion 21	Posted - 2013.01.24 11:38:00 - [3] - Quote To add to the Swarm Launcher tips: The current vets running around in tanks have nothing to fear from STARTER FIT Swarm Launchers unless the entire opposing team spawned in with them and focused ALL their fire on the one tank. If you hate tanks as much as most of the infantry in Dust do, spec into Heavies and Forge Guns as early as possible so you have a fighting chance against both Tanks and Infantry. Swarm Launchers only become truly helpful at late Advanced or Prototype level. They are DEFINITELY a specialist weapon and are more useful to a team than an individual. All the best, those new to the ranks.
Y0UR NAME HERE Imperfects Negative-Feedback 444	Posted - 2013.01.24 11:43:00 - [4] - Quote lul, silly newberry.
Ner'Zul Nexhawk Talos Incorporated 153	Posted - 2013.01.24 12:28:00 - [5] - Quote Under any circumstances, if you're bleeding out, do not mash the circle button right away. Stop yourself and think - is there a Triage unit nearby? If there is, then he might revive you and keep the clone count from decrementing because of your death. P.S. Not to mention that slowly bleeding out actually decreases your next spawn time, so you lose almost nothing in that aspect.
Greasepalms Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising 70	Posted - 2013.01.24 12:45:00 - [6] - Quote Ner'Zul Nexhawk wrote: Under any circumstances, if you're bleeding out, do not mash the circle button right away. Stop yourself and think - is there a Triage unit nearby? If there is, then he might revive you and keep the clone count from decrementing because of your death. P.S. Not to mention that slowly bleeding out actually decreases your next spawn time, so you lose almost nothing in that aspect. And to add to that, do bleed out if you're under the enemy's sight (sniper specially) / don't revive someone who has been sniped out in the open. Like yesterday, I flanked around B in the new 5 letter map and I got this heavy by the back, I hid behind cover and a triage picks him up, I pop him again, he picks him up again, etc... and I end up getting 4 kills off that heavy! jeez ppl have some common sense. Eliminate the threat or get a better injector if you're going to revive people on the heat of the battle.
Fivetimes Infinity Immobile Infantry 1086	Posted - 2013.01.24 13:15:00 - [7] - Quote If your crosshairs/sniper dot turn red when they are over an enemy, you are within range and will do some damage. If they do not turn red, you are outside of range and will be wasting ammo shooting at them. Sniping isn't useless if you're good at it. If you get at least 15 kills you probably can continue sniping because you're probably more useful than the average AR grunt. If you snipe and you're getting only a handful of kills every game, you should stop and do something else. To avoid being a sitting duck as a sniper, you need to position yourself in places where you can't be easily shot from almost anywhere on the map. Positioning is a big part of being a good sniper. Swarm launcher is good for LAVs/dropships, but for tanks you should have a militia forge gun build setup, ideally. Forge guns are far more reliable tank killers than swarm launchers.
Garrus Vik'arian The Southern Legion 5	Posted - 2013.01.24 18:55:00 - [8] - Quote Fivetimes Infinity wrote: If your crosshairs/sniper dot turn red when they are over an enemy, you are within range and will do some damage. If they do not turn red, you are outside of range and will be wasting ammo shooting at them. Sniping isn't useless if you're good at it. If you get at least 15 kills you probably can continue sniping because you're probably more useful than the average AR grunt. If you snipe and you're getting only a handful of kills every game, you should stop and do something else. To avoid being a sitting duck as a sniper, you need to position yourself in places where you can't be easily shot from almost anywhere on the map. Positioning is a big part of being a good sniper. Swarm launcher is good for LAVs/dropships, but for tanks you should have a militia forge gun build setup, ideally. Forge guns are far more reliable tank killers than swarm launchers. So I learned something. Forge guns for tanks. I've heard of dropships outrunning swarm missiles.
stormtroopin Cygnus Tactical Operations 51	Posted - 2013.01.24 19:14:00 - [9] - Quote Kamiya Musume wrote: Possibly the most important piece of advice: DO NOT STAND STILL! ^^ +1. Strafing is SUPER important. Because this is a tracking shooter it's more important to keep your crosshairs on the guy you're shooting than to be the 'quick' shot. You might have crappier equipment than the guy you're in a standoff with, but if you can strafe better than he can, you just might have a chance.
Lunamaria Hawkeye SyNergy Gaming 92	Posted - 2013.01.24 19:25:00 - [10] - Quote I have also seen more than a few people trying to crouch in the open or in the middle of a gun fight. Idk if you guys are trying to drop shot or just enjoy dieing, but you should probably stop. I also don't know what game taught people to do this, but I would suggest un-learning it as soon as possible, unless u like staring at death screens.

James-5955 Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION 151	Posted - 2013.01.24 19:43:00 - [11] - Quote When you're strafing try to counteract your opponents strafing to make it easier to be accurate. Standard ARs > Breach/Tactical in my experience Don't go gun ho into an objective alone, play defensively and use cover. Check the radar often, it saves me from flanks and nets me a lot of my kills. Try to stay with your team, power in numbers applies heavily in this match... Unless it's close quarters and there's a heavy with a HMG. In general just try to play smart, if you're alone and you've got a big group coming at you just fall back to a spot where you can get a good defensive position and call it out, hopefully support comes. No point in getting overwhelmed, zerged, and costing your team a clone. Always have a fitting available that has a drop uplink, they are game changers when used properly and are a nice solution to getting your team out of a redlining. Type II suits are probably the best suits to aim for when starting out, it doesn't require too much SP investment but the difference is very significant. They're usually shield versions of the Type I, close to the same stats with slightly higher PG/CPU. I prefer the shield versions because they have a higher movement speed than armor and it recharges much faster than armor. Makes it a lot easier to solo when you don't have a logistics player in your squad.
Val'herik Dorn CrimeWave Syndicate 264	Posted - 2013.01.24 19:45:00 - [12] - Quote ^^ cod battlefield medal of honor the list is far to long for a forum post... Drop shotting is basically part and parcel of every other modern shooter.
Breakin Stuff Immobile Infantry 680	Posted - 2013.01.24 20:02:00 - [13] - Quote If you see a skinny little bastard with a stupid looking helmet and a car door strapped to his arm, kill him before he gets within ten meters or you're effing hosed. Plasma shotgun is One Hit Kill on most dropsuits. see a guy lobbing eight grenades in a row he's not nade spamming, he's using a mass driver. get behind cover and shoot him while he reloads. A logi suit means there's an angry heavy nearby. a blue flash and your shields vanishing means you just ate a flux grenade. expect mass driver shells or an HMG to light you up immediately.
Lunamaria Hawkeye SyNergy Gaming 92	Posted - 2013.01.25 19:37:00 - [14] - Quote Val'herik Dorn wrote: ^^ cod battlefield medal of honor the list is far to long for a forum post... Drop shotting is basically part and parcel of every other modern shooter. My experience with dropshotting is that it only works on people who are bad.
theschizogenious KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 167	Posted - 2013.01.25 19:56:00 - [15] - Quote Garrus Vik'arian wrote: Fivetimes Infinity wrote: If your crosshairs/sniper dot turn red when they are over an enemy, you are within range and will do some damage. If they do not turn red, you are outside of range and will be wasting ammo shooting at them. Sniping isn't useless if you're good at it. If you get at least 15 kills you probably can continue sniping because you're probably more useful than the average AR grunt. If you snipe and you're getting only a handful of kills every game, you should stop and do something else. To avoid being a sitting duck as a sniper, you need to position yourself in places where you can't be easily shot from almost anywhere on the map. Positioning is a big part of being a good sniper. Swarm launcher is good for LAVs/dropships, but for tanks you should have a militia forge gun build setup, ideally. Forge guns are far more reliable tank killers than swarm launchers. So I learned something. Forge guns for tanks. I've heard of dropships outrunning swarm missiles. use your forge on dropships its not that hard just have to learn how to lead them


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