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Stefan Stahl
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.01.21 20:57:00 -
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Hello.
I'd like to ask if anyone knows why dropsuit command gives a 5% reduction to the signature rating of the suit.
Here's the other relevant skills regarding sensors: - Sensor dampening gives a 5% reduction to signature per level - Sensor analysis gives a 5% increase to scanning precision per level
That looks great, now please explain to me why there is a second skill that reduces the signature rating but no second skill that increases the scanning precision.
This will lead to the late-game situation that scouts are actually undetectable, regardless of skills, modules or range.
P.S.: If you're a dev reading this: Please write down "Check dropsuit command skill bonus" on a post-it and put it on the desk of the next game-design-person in your vicinity. Thanks a lot. |
Shadow Katana
The Royal Assassin's
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Posted - 2013.01.21 21:55:00 -
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Stefan Stahl wrote:Hello.
I'd like to ask if anyone knows why dropsuit command gives a 5% reduction to the signature rating of the suit.
Here's the other relevant skills regarding sensors: - Sensor dampening gives a 5% reduction to signature per level - Sensor analysis gives a 5% increase to scanning precision per level
That looks great, now please explain to me why there is a second skill that reduces the signature rating but no second skill that increases the scanning precision.
This will lead to the late-game situation that scouts are actually undetectable, regardless of skills, modules or range.
P.S.: If you're a dev reading this: Please write down "Check dropsuit command skill bonus" on a post-it and put it on the desk of the next game-design-person in your vicinity. Thanks a lot. the only way to reach o scanning profile u need
Dropsuit command LV5 = -25% Damper LV 5 = -25% + 2 -25% damper mods to have 0 scan profile btw any suit can be undetectable |
Stefan Stahl
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.01.21 21:59:00 -
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The bonus works by multiplication, not subtraction.
That means a scout at a base signature rating of 45 dB with your setting ( dropsuit command V, dampening V and two complex dampening modules) works out to 45 dB * 0.75 * 0.75 * 0.75^2 = 14 dB, which of course is impossible to get as a scanning precision.
Even a heavy comes out at just over 20 dB, which is less than half a scout suits scanning precision. |
Zat Earthshatter
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.01.21 22:12:00 -
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Shadow Katana wrote:the only way to reach o scanning profile u need
Dropsuit command LV5 = -25% Damper LV 5 = -25% + 2 -25% damper mods to have 0 scan profile btw any suit can be undetectable No. We don't add percentages like that in New Eden - DUST included. The skills apply their modifier first. Then, the two damper mods apply to the NEW value. Then there are diminishing returns applied to the modules, preventing you from ever hitting 0 or 100%. The second module gets around 83% IIRC. So the total math, assuming that only the skills add together as you assumed: 100 -50% = 50 50 - 25% = 37.5 83% of 25 = 20.75 37.5 - 20.75% = approx. 29.72% of original values. Total scan profile reduction for l5 skills and 2 damper mods: approx. 70.28% reduction from dropsuit show-info value.
This is assuming the skills apply their modifier as one. They might apply in sequence instead, reducing the total reduction by further.
EDIT: had to make a correction in the math - used a 4 when I should have used 3. |
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