Every time I visit the general section its the same damn thing. You could create and centralize all "grenades are OP" threads in a well structured thread in the Feedback/Requests section (where it belongs), and offer constructive criticism regarding distance, damage, and fuse time. What you people do however, is create like 50 rage threads just whining.

Anyway, yes grenades are a problem. The throw is not far enough, and the fuse time is too short.

My favorite grenade idea is forcing you to switch to grenades like you switch to weapons or equipment.

I call them skill nuggets.

Only one death from grenades this match

^after our last match

#thingsarelookingup

I prefer grenade deaths to the stupid strafe around in circles at ten feet and spray dance. It's bad mechanics when this happens, especially when both sides have time to reload 3 times trying to off each other.

I would just like to point out to Aeon Armandi that this was also coordinated by the imperfects. Gizmo is my real life bdsm slave. He does whats he is told, well I might add

Hi giz,

Grenade takes skill!

I prefer grenade deaths to the stupid strafe around in circles at ten feet and spray dance. It's bad mechanics when this happens, especially when both sides have time to reload 3 times trying to off each other.

Figuring out the best shield tank is key for this. I'm thinking that there may need to be shield hardeners for dropsuits instead of nerfing grenades.

I run assault type 2 either AR or LR, and I have had goo goobs grenades thrown at me today, but did not die from any impact grenade damage today. I did die by a couple people spamming the Mass Driver, but since that takes skill, its ok... (sarcasm)

Ahem Massholes like me are freaking surgeons with our MD's we are masters of the blunt dissection with volley of md rounds for groups and can perform laparoscopic excisions of single/double enemy units with focused flux and direct MD hit damage.

You think MD users are glorified semi-automatic noob tubers and perhaps most are, but you sir are mistaken if you don't think i dont have skill with my MD, CQC, long range, 1 target, 2 targets heck 4 targets i'll lay waste to them all if are foolish enough to come at me bro!!!

Oh you want to run and hide in that corner from my two buddies HMG and AR fire... nope sweet little arc and SPLAT you're DEAD.

Yea MD takes skill....The way i use it.

Because splash damage requires skill

Because splash damage requires skill

Ugh yea it does since splash damage is relatively low compared to direct damage unless it's assualt variant. But radius is smaller than nade radius and most ppl overshoot their targets and hit them behind, undershoot too much and you damage yourself and are very likely to commit suicide(done this quite enough).

Protip when faced with a cruddy MD user run at them not away from them most times they will overshoot you because the neutral aim will shoot the round right past and you and the splash damage wont hit you. If they undershoot they';ll die and likely they will be backing up so toss a nade behind them.

As it is now MD rounds have a tendency to float right past a person and not connect directly, they rarely explode on the person, direct hits almost have to be obtained by having them in center of blast and landing it at their feet.

But yes 4 MD users all firing MD rounds at you getting killed by splash damage is skillless, but read my post again and you'll understand the way i use it does take skill and understanding of the weapons strengths and weakness(shield weakness as an example).

Edit- Also aiming and accounting for vertical and horizontal distance with travel speed of round and player does take a level of skill beyond just point and shoot.

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Let see, 3 splash damage shot kills a scout.
3-4 splash damage for assault/logi
5-7 to heavy.

Massive impact reocil that those of players aim and leaves them practically with basically no way to counter. Massive blast radius, Recived a buff for more ammo. High rate of fire. Sharpshooter does help a lot also. And yes I do have an alt with an Exo-5 Mass Driver. I've have been saying since E3 build the impact recoil needs to be fixed or less blast radius. At the moment it is basically a small missile turret before thy got nerfed.

Sharpshooter doesn't help in my experience though id be interested in your thought on that, message me ingame i dont want to hijack this thread any further. Also i dont experience the impact recoil other do, perhaps because MD are immune to it or because as a mouse user and no vibration i dont get it. In fact everyone using DS3 turn off controller vibration and let's see if that has an effect on the impact recoil as an experiment. ROF isnt that high IMO. But we'll just have to agree to disagree because it really deserves its own thread to discuss.