DUST Search - AV Grenades Range.

Mr Zitro wrote:

Zekain Kade wrote:

Mr Zitro wrote:

Zekain Kade wrote:

Mr Zitro wrote:

What not HTFU, QQ, adapt or die comments? Only for me I guess so I have decided to make a dust 514 for dummies! Price tag 200 billion isk per copy, first 100 buyers receive a special version of the book autographed by my tank

You're a terrible tank driver.

My stats say something different :)

Your stats say you pub stomp with a squad of coordinated players.

You lose your tank against people who actually have a brain to kill it. Also, no one has probably specced heavily into AV this early on. So yea, if you're getting a lot of kills with a tank, it's because of that.

I've only got a single point in swarms, and I usually ran a proto swarm launcher in the last builds. So you do have the advantage over everyone else right now. I'm not speccing heavily into AV because infantry encounters are a lot more common then some random tank. So I spec those stats instead, many others probably do the same.

You're good on foot. You're bad in a tank.

What else is there to do besides pubs??? No one corp battles because they are scared. People kill my tank yes but I kill them more simple fact you missed ^_^

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Caeli SineDeo Imperfects Negative-Feedback 294	Posted - 2013.01.14 22:19:00 - [1] - Quote It feels really insane I just got hit about 60+ m out from someone throwing them at me while he was hiding behind a wall jumping and throwing. where it was impossible to touch him but he could throw that far to hit me. Ya i think that the range might be a little insane.
Sobriety Denied Universal Allies Inc. 432	Posted - 2013.01.14 22:30:00 - [2] - Quote it was probably the lighter av nade that can be thrown farther, does less dmg, and needs to be SP'ed into
Caeli SineDeo Imperfects Negative-Feedback 294	Posted - 2013.01.15 00:23:00 - [3] - Quote Sobriety Denied wrote: it was probably the lighter av nade that can be thrown farther, does less dmg, and needs to be SP'ed into Nope it was actually standard. And I will say I even have really good range on the packed AV grenades that i use myself.
Mr Zitro Imperfects Negative-Feedback 417	Posted - 2013.01.15 02:05:00 - [4] - Quote What not HTFU, QQ, adapt or die comments? Only for me I guess so I have decided to make a dust 514 for dummies! Price tag 200 billion isk per copy, first 100 buyers receive a special version of the book autographed by my tank
Polish Hammer Conspiratus Immortalis 300	Posted - 2013.01.15 02:13:00 - [5] - Quote Mr Zitro wrote: What not HTFU, QQ, adapt or die comments? Only for me I guess so I have decided to make a dust 514 for dummies! Price tag 200 billion isk per copy, first 100 buyers receive a special version of the book autographed by my tank Because people respect Caeli.
Sleepy Zan Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 2046	Posted - 2013.01.15 02:13:00 - [6] - Quote Mr Zitro wrote: What not HTFU, QQ, adapt or die comments? Only for me I guess jealous?
Mr Zitro Imperfects Negative-Feedback 417	Posted - 2013.01.15 03:29:00 - [7] - Quote Polish Hammer wrote: Mr Zitro wrote: What not HTFU, QQ, adapt or die comments? Only for me I guess so I have decided to make a dust 514 for dummies! Price tag 200 billion isk per copy, first 100 buyers receive a special version of the book autographed by my tank Because people respect Caeli. And you think I respect scrubs?
Zekain Kade BetaMax. 931	Posted - 2013.01.15 03:31:00 - [8] - Quote Mr Zitro wrote: What not HTFU, QQ, adapt or die comments? Only for me I guess so I have decided to make a dust 514 for dummies! Price tag 200 billion isk per copy, first 100 buyers receive a special version of the book autographed by my tank You're a terrible tank driver.
Mr Zitro Imperfects Negative-Feedback 417	Posted - 2013.01.15 03:34:00 - [9] - Quote Zekain Kade wrote: Mr Zitro wrote: What not HTFU, QQ, adapt or die comments? Only for me I guess so I have decided to make a dust 514 for dummies! Price tag 200 billion isk per copy, first 100 buyers receive a special version of the book autographed by my tank You're a terrible tank driver. My stats say something different :)
Zekain Kade BetaMax. 931	Posted - 2013.01.15 03:38:00 - [10] - Quote Mr Zitro wrote: Zekain Kade wrote: Mr Zitro wrote: What not HTFU, QQ, adapt or die comments? Only for me I guess so I have decided to make a dust 514 for dummies! Price tag 200 billion isk per copy, first 100 buyers receive a special version of the book autographed by my tank You're a terrible tank driver. My stats say something different :) Your stats say you pub stomp with a squad of coordinated players. You lose your tank against people who actually have a brain to kill it. Also, no one has probably specced heavily into AV this early on. So yea, if you're getting a lot of kills with a tank, it's because of that. I've only got a single point in swarms, and I usually ran a proto swarm launcher in the last builds. So you do have the advantage over everyone else right now. I'm not speccing heavily into AV because infantry encounters are a lot more common then some random tank. So I spec those stats instead, many others probably do the same. You're good on foot. You're bad in a tank.

Octavian Vetiver Dog Nation United Relativity Alliance 152	Posted - 2013.01.15 03:43:00 - [11] - Quote Sounds like those AVs can really be tossed really good. That's a bit on the far side though, a grenade won't go 60 meters unless it's a launched grenade. Not many people could launch a grenade 60 meters for one, and especially not a grenade that size.
Zekain Kade BetaMax. 931	Posted - 2013.01.15 03:44:00 - [12] - Quote Octavian Vetiver wrote: Sounds like those AVs can really be tossed really good. That's a bit on the far side though, a grenade won't go 60 meters unless it's a launched grenade. Not many people could launch a grenade 60 meters for one, and especially not a grenade that size. throw it like a foot ball. GO LONG!
Mr Zitro Imperfects Negative-Feedback 417	Posted - 2013.01.15 03:49:00 - [13] - Quote Zekain Kade wrote: Mr Zitro wrote: Zekain Kade wrote: Mr Zitro wrote: What not HTFU, QQ, adapt or die comments? Only for me I guess so I have decided to make a dust 514 for dummies! Price tag 200 billion isk per copy, first 100 buyers receive a special version of the book autographed by my tank You're a terrible tank driver. My stats say something different :) Your stats say you pub stomp with a squad of coordinated players. You lose your tank against people who actually have a brain to kill it. Also, no one has probably specced heavily into AV this early on. So yea, if you're getting a lot of kills with a tank, it's because of that. I've only got a single point in swarms, and I usually ran a proto swarm launcher in the last builds. So you do have the advantage over everyone else right now. I'm not speccing heavily into AV because infantry encounters are a lot more common then some random tank. So I spec those stats instead, many others probably do the same. You're good on foot. You're bad in a tank. What else is there to do besides pubs??? No one corp battles because they are scared. People kill my tank yes but I kill them more simple fact you missed ^_^
Zekain Kade BetaMax. 931	Posted - 2013.01.15 03:52:00 - [14] - Quote Mr Zitro wrote: Zekain Kade wrote: Mr Zitro wrote: Zekain Kade wrote: Mr Zitro wrote: What not HTFU, QQ, adapt or die comments? Only for me I guess so I have decided to make a dust 514 for dummies! Price tag 200 billion isk per copy, first 100 buyers receive a special version of the book autographed by my tank You're a terrible tank driver. My stats say something different :) Your stats say you pub stomp with a squad of coordinated players. You lose your tank against people who actually have a brain to kill it. Also, no one has probably specced heavily into AV this early on. So yea, if you're getting a lot of kills with a tank, it's because of that. I've only got a single point in swarms, and I usually ran a proto swarm launcher in the last builds. So you do have the advantage over everyone else right now. I'm not speccing heavily into AV because infantry encounters are a lot more common then some random tank. So I spec those stats instead, many others probably do the same. You're good on foot. You're bad in a tank. What else is there to do besides pubs??? No one corp battles because they are scared. People kill my tank yes but I kill them more simple fact you missed ^_^ Again, you're pub stomping. It's easy to get a high score when rolling around in a tank in a pub game. I did it before the TQ switch, and I was careless with my tanks. Why? because I had more than 100 of each shield tank, and I WANTED the enemy to blow me up. but it almost never happened. Simple fact, you're fighting idiots.
Octavian Vetiver Dog Nation United Relativity Alliance 152	Posted - 2013.01.15 03:55:00 - [15] - Quote Zekain Kade wrote: Octavian Vetiver wrote: Sounds like those AVs can really be tossed really good. That's a bit on the far side though, a grenade won't go 60 meters unless it's a launched grenade. Not many people could launch a grenade 60 meters for one, and especially not a grenade that size. throw it like a foot ball. GO LONG! o.0.......hell no i ain't trying to catch that. I duck in the nearest hole and hope it doesn't end up in it with me.
Mr Zitro Imperfects Negative-Feedback 417	Posted - 2013.01.15 03:56:00 - [16] - Quote Idiots like you I guess. Its my fault I have good player/buds to play. Gets some people to play with maybe you won't lose so much :)
Zekain Kade BetaMax. 931	Posted - 2013.01.15 03:59:00 - [17] - Quote Mr Zitro wrote: Idiots like you I guess. Its my fault I have good player/buds to play. Gets some people to play with maybe you won't lose so much :) I can kill you, and your brother easily. I have in the past.
Mr Zitro Imperfects Negative-Feedback 417	Posted - 2013.01.15 04:04:00 - [18] - Quote Zekain Kade wrote: Mr Zitro wrote: Idiots like you I guess. Its my fault I have good player/buds to play. Gets some people to play with maybe you won't lose so much :) I can kill you, and your brother easily. I have in the past. Killing me isn't that hard, but beating me is. You brag about killing me I prefer to not even acknowledge your existent
Zekain Kade BetaMax. 931	Posted - 2013.01.15 04:05:00 - [19] - Quote Mr Zitro wrote: Zekain Kade wrote: Mr Zitro wrote: Idiots like you I guess. Its my fault I have good player/buds to play. Gets some people to play with maybe you won't lose so much :) I can kill you, and your brother easily. I have in the past. Killing me isn't that hard, but beating me is. You brag about killing me I prefer to not even acknowledge your existent That's cool bro. I don't play super competitively to try to win on most days. I have this thing called a job that takes up most of my energy. I don't care what you think of me, I'm just going to laugh at you because you think you're a somebody on the internet. Also, the word is existence.
TiMeSpLiT--TeR Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 326	Posted - 2013.01.15 04:19:00 - [20] - Quote There is a type of AV grenade that can be thrown farther but has less damage compared to close range which I'm planning to get.

Caeli SineDeo Imperfects Negative-Feedback 294	Posted - 2013.01.15 05:45:00 - [21] - Quote To clarify it was standard AV I was killed by them and read the kill mail. But to clarify the distance https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=42725&find=unread Look at that map in grids E6 aka the platform strait down from D objective was where he was. I know because I was trying to pop him as he hide tossing grenades over the edge hitting me. so I took off thinking I had plunty of time to get out of range because AV nades do not go that far. Well he popped me all the next to the A platform I was just short of it and just past the pipes. I am going to do some testing tomorrow to see how far I can lob the suckers but that was some insane range that he took me from.
Polish Hammer Conspiratus Immortalis 300	Posted - 2013.01.15 21:56:00 - [22] - Quote Mr Zitro wrote: Polish Hammer wrote: Mr Zitro wrote: What not HTFU, QQ, adapt or die comments? Only for me I guess so I have decided to make a dust 514 for dummies! Price tag 200 billion isk per copy, first 100 buyers receive a special version of the book autographed by my tank Because people respect Caeli. And you think I respect scrubs? Awww you're so adorable when you're being arrogant
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising 886	Posted - 2013.01.15 22:19:00 - [23] - Quote It isn't limited to AV grenades...all grenades have range. But AV grenades and their range are totally fine as they are. You also have to remember that they seek. So, if your vehicle was in the seek radius, then it'll extend the length a bit.
arimal lavaren L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 186	Posted - 2013.01.15 22:24:00 - [24] - Quote I've seen that the AV grenades range can be slightly extended by the magnetic function they have it may have reached the end of the toss but made it just close enough for a lock on and instantly fly another 10+ meters to your tank. It's hard to measure but it's a thought I've had in the past and seems to work in practice. Though from your description that still seems like one hell of a throw.
Caeli SineDeo Imperfects Negative-Feedback 294	Posted - 2013.01.15 22:47:00 - [25] - Quote I have officially tested this throw myself and I am doing it with standard AV. I can hit just 10m shorter with my packed. It is a joke 2 tanks got called in and using AV grenades alone I popped them both in under 10 seconds a armor tank with 4,5k EHP and a sica with simular. 7 grenades is all it took me in total to pop them. They are a little oped for the damage they do I can out DPS proto AV with standard AV grenades. the proto assault forge might be the only thing that could beat me in DPS and it would be close.
SILENTSAM 69 Pro Hic Immortalis RISE of LEGION 421	Posted - 2013.01.15 22:49:00 - [26] - Quote AV grenades are fine. Deal with it. I am not shocked that a super warrior in a powered suit can throw 60m. I think we expect that of some athletes today. (not that I would know)
fred orpaul Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising 211	Posted - 2013.01.16 06:47:00 - [27] - Quote its not the av grenades that need nerfing its the POS throwing mechanic that needs to go away, It over simplifies range throwing and penalizes creative throwing. try throwing a grenade over a bunker that an enemy team is shooting from, or throwing down off a ledge that has a railing, these are places where a grenade should thrive not spaming grenades from 40m out and hitting dead on every time.
fred orpaul Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising 211	Posted - 2013.01.16 06:58:00 - [28] - Quote Sleepy Zan wrote: Mr Zitro wrote: What not HTFU, QQ, adapt or die comments? Only for me I guess jealous? ahhhh even the imperfects make fun of what a little troll Mr. Zitro is. My considerable respect for the imperfects grew ten times this post, It almost made up for the waste of text that Mr. Zitro is.


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