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Sentient Archon
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Posted - 2013.01.14 17:02:00 -
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Off all the FPS games I have played so far, Dust 514 doesnt have any evasion options. By evasion options I mean options such as crawl or rolling forward/backward/to the side. The only thing we have is jump which I dont really consider an evasion option.
I think we should have evasion options escially something like a roll. This would make things more interesting in trying to avoid enemy fire.
What do you think? |
kellyn whiteheart
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.01.14 17:04:00 -
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Sentient Archon wrote:Off all the FPS games I have played so far, Dust 514 doesnt have any evasion options. By evasion options I mean options such as crawl or rolling forward/backward/to the side. The only thing we have is jump which I dont really consider an evasion option.
I think we should have evasion options escially something like a roll. This would make things more interesting in trying to avoid enemy fire.
What do you think?
this could be interesting so long as it took stamina to do. just like running and jumping. it would also make it more useful to put stam rechargers and stuff on ur suits |
Yagihige
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
172
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Posted - 2013.01.14 17:07:00 -
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Sentient Archon wrote:Off all the FPS games I have played so far
Exactly what are those? AFAIK, rolling isn't that common in FPS games.
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Sentient Archon
Red Star.
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Posted - 2013.01.14 17:12:00 -
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Yagihige wrote: Exactly what are those? AFAIK, rolling isn't that common in FPS games.
Stick to the topic dumbass. We are not discussing evasions in other games. We are talking about evasion options in this games. Its either a yes or no or a meaningfull suggestion.
But since you wanna know check out gears of war.
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Noraa Anderson
Nox Aeterna Security
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Posted - 2013.01.14 17:14:00 -
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Rolling would suck, shotgunners could get in your face too easily and Heavies won't see the benefit. |
Yagihige
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
172
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Posted - 2013.01.14 17:27:00 -
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Sentient Archon wrote:Yagihige wrote: Exactly what are those? AFAIK, rolling isn't that common in FPS games.
Stick to the topic dumbass. We are not discussing evasions in other games. We are talking about evasion options in this games. Its either a yes or no or a meaningfull suggestion. But since you wanna know check out gears of war.
You brought up the topic of evasion maneuvers because you had supposedly seen it done in other FPS games. My question was simple and relevant to the topic.
And Gears of War is NOT a FPS, just in case you didn't notice. |
Forlorn Destrier
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.01.14 17:32:00 -
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Sentient Archon wrote:Yagihige wrote: Exactly what are those? AFAIK, rolling isn't that common in FPS games.
Stick to the topic dumbass. We are not discussing evasions in other games. We are talking about evasion options in this games. Its either a yes or no or a meaningfull suggestion. But since you wanna know check out gears of war.
His point is valid - no need to attack him. Your premise is based on other games, and he was curious about which ones they were to he had a point of reference for why you were asking this question. No need to be rude.
There are some people here who never played the games you refer to. Perhaps we want to try those mechanics in those games so we can see if we feel it would fit in with the game play style here, but we can't very well see how it impacts the game to make an intelligent comment if we haven't seen it. You asked for opinions - and I assume you want informed opinions - don't troll someone who is asking for more information so that he can give you that informed opinion. |
Django Quik
R.I.f.t
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Posted - 2013.01.14 17:40:00 -
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Rolling and cover systems are only relevant to third person shooters. |
Sentient Archon
Red Star.
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Posted - 2013.01.14 17:42:00 -
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Forlorn Destrier wrote: His point is valid - no need to attack him. Your premise is based on other games, and he was curious about which ones they were to he had a point of reference for why you were asking this question. No need to be rude.
There are some people here who never played the games you refer to. Perhaps we want to try those mechanics in those games so we can see if we feel it would fit in with the game play style here, but we can't very well see how it impacts the game to make an intelligent comment if we haven't seen it. You asked for opinions - and I assume you want informed opinions - don't troll someone who is asking for more information so that he can give you that informed opinion.
You are wrong and his point is not valid. I mentioned other options such as crawling and rolling to the side. Picking one thing out what I mentioned in the post and asking about is moronic. If he wants to know which FPs have rolling in them he can always check google or put a post up in the locker room section.
I aint trolling and I aint got time to deal with dumbasses. Look at the responses from Kellyn and Nora. They have mentioned what they think about it good or bad. The is not an effing FAQ post. |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.01.14 17:43:00 -
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Sentient Archon wrote:Yagihige wrote: Exactly what are those? AFAIK, rolling isn't that common in FPS games.
Stick to the topic dumbass.
Woah! Dude, the guy asked a legitimate question that is related to your topic and yet you call him a dumbass for it? Forget you. I was thinking of granting you an audience and perhaps pitch in to see how it might help with the game. But then I see this post and think "forget this guy and his idea". |
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Arramakaian Eka
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
363
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Posted - 2013.01.14 17:45:00 -
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Sentient Archon wrote:Forlorn Destrier wrote: His point is valid - no need to attack him. Your premise is based on other games, and he was curious about which ones they were to he had a point of reference for why you were asking this question. No need to be rude.
There are some people here who never played the games you refer to. Perhaps we want to try those mechanics in those games so we can see if we feel it would fit in with the game play style here, but we can't very well see how it impacts the game to make an intelligent comment if we haven't seen it. You asked for opinions - and I assume you want informed opinions - don't troll someone who is asking for more information so that he can give you that informed opinion.
You are wrong and his point is not valid. I mentioned other options such as crawling and rolling to the side. Picking one thing out what I mentioned in the post and asking about is moronic. If he wants to know which FPs have rolling in them he can always check google or put a post up in the locker room section. I aint trolling and I aint got time to deal with dumbasses. Look at the responses from Kellyn and Nora. They have mentioned what they think about it good or bad. The is not an effing FAQ post.
Someone had a kitten in their breakfast cereal. Chill, dude, I can almost hear the zits pop all the way across the internet. |
Drommy Hood
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
242
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Posted - 2013.01.14 17:46:00 -
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Yagihige wrote:Sentient Archon wrote:Yagihige wrote: Exactly what are those? AFAIK, rolling isn't that common in FPS games.
Stick to the topic dumbass. We are not discussing evasions in other games. We are talking about evasion options in this games. Its either a yes or no or a meaningfull suggestion. But since you wanna know check out gears of war. You brought up the topic of evasion maneuvers because you had supposedly seen it done in other FPS games. My question was simple and relevant to the topic. And Gears of War is NOT a FPS, just in case you didn't notice.
It made me lol that you assisted the OP with why you asked about other games, but it made me lmao that you caught him out on GOW not being fps
You'd totes make a good greifer :-) |
Octavian Vetiver
Dog Nation United Relativity Alliance
152
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Posted - 2013.01.14 17:48:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Sentient Archon wrote:Yagihige wrote: Exactly what are those? AFAIK, rolling isn't that common in FPS games.
Stick to the topic dumbass. Woah! Dude, the guy asked a legitimate question that is related to your topic and yet you call him a dumbass for it? Forget you. I was thinking of granting you an audience and perhaps pitch in to see how it might help with the game. But then I see this post and think "forget this guy and his idea".
Common courtesy is something the human race lacks these days. |
Drommy Hood
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
242
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Posted - 2013.01.14 17:50:00 -
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Lets play a guessing game instead. I'm thinking of a film, it has jack Nicholson and Adam sandler in it. What is the name of the film? |
Sentient Archon
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Posted - 2013.01.14 17:50:00 -
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Octavian Vetiver wrote:Common courtesy is something the human race lacks these days.
The only courtesy Im gonna show anyone is shoot them in the head.
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Forlorn Destrier
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.01.14 17:51:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Sentient Archon wrote:Yagihige wrote: Exactly what are those? AFAIK, rolling isn't that common in FPS games.
Stick to the topic dumbass. Woah! Dude, the guy asked a legitimate question that is related to your topic and yet you call him a dumbass for it? Forget you. I was thinking of granting you an audience and perhaps pitch in to see how it might help with the game. But then I see this post and think "forget this guy and his idea".
+1 Maken. By the way, one of these days I'd like to squad up with you. Think it would be fun. |
Drommy Hood
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.01.14 17:52:00 -
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Sentient Archon wrote:Octavian Vetiver wrote:Common courtesy is something the human race lacks these days. The only courtesy Im gonna show anyone is shoot them in the head.
Lmao, I don't know whether your hilarious, mental or a combination of both |
DUST Fiend
Immobile Infantry
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Posted - 2013.01.14 17:53:00 -
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OP is totally lolmad.
Gears of War. FPS. Legit lmfao. |
Drommy Hood
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
242
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Posted - 2013.01.14 17:55:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:OP is totally lolmad.
Gears of War. FPS. Legit lmfao.
Best thread iv read in ages. Actually can't stop spamming refresh for the next exciting instalment |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.01.14 17:56:00 -
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Sentient Archon wrote:Octavian Vetiver wrote:Common courtesy is something the human race lacks these days. The only courtesy Im gonna show anyone is shoot them in the head.
Here, let me pull that nova knife out of your ass. That could explain your attitude.
Also, if you want CCP to consider your idea of evasive actions, may I suggest two things?
1. Feedback/Suggestion Forums ---------->>> That way.
2. Clean up your attitude. CCP doesn't bother reading posts from people who disrespect others. I know CCP very well and so does the entire Eve community in that they will ignore you if you are just hostile to others for no reason. |
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Sentient Archon
Red Star.
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Posted - 2013.01.14 17:58:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote: Here, let me pull that nova knife out of your ass. That could explain your attitude.
Also, if you want CCP to consider your idea of evasive actions, may I suggest two things?
1. Feedback/Suggestion Forums ---------->>> That way.
2. Clean up your attitude. CCP doesn't bother reading posts from people who disrespect others. I know CCP very well and so does the entire Eve community in that they will ignore you if you are just hostile to others for no reason.
DILLIGAF |
Washlee
UnReaL.
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Posted - 2013.01.14 17:58:00 -
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Bunny hop like a boss. |
Drommy Hood
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
242
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Posted - 2013.01.14 18:01:00 -
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Sentient Archon wrote:Maken Tosch wrote: Here, let me pull that nova knife out of your ass. That could explain your attitude.
Also, if you want CCP to consider your idea of evasive actions, may I suggest two things?
1. Feedback/Suggestion Forums ---------->>> That way.
2. Clean up your attitude. CCP doesn't bother reading posts from people who disrespect others. I know CCP very well and so does the entire Eve community in that they will ignore you if you are just hostile to others for no reason.
DILLIGAF
I had to google that one, quite rude, still funny |
Sentient Archon
Red Star.
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Posted - 2013.01.14 18:08:00 -
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Drommy Hood wrote: I had to google that one, quite rude, still funny
+1 for using google.
Unlike the rest of the dumasses here .
Kevin Bloody Wilson FTW! |
H4lfdog
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.01.14 18:15:00 -
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Crawl would be OK... But roll no way! It will end in a circus game! Look at me I'm doing a barrel roll in the same time that you! This is so real! If you want a evasive manoeuvre go read some army tactics.
1- Stay away from corner 2- don't always run 3- don't roll like Starfox under fire!
And for cover like in GoW don't have to use a button to get cover, put cover between you and the bullets.
But crawl should be allow. (Not for the heavy and Laser users because they are OP) |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
1591
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Posted - 2013.01.14 18:24:00 -
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Well, there goes the validity of Sentient Archon's post. Quickly undone by his own reply to a legit question that was on topic.
Good bye, my dear fellow. It's been nice calling you out on your behavior. |
Sentient Archon
Red Star.
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Posted - 2013.01.14 18:24:00 -
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H4lfdog wrote: If you want a evasive manoeuvre go read some army tactics.
Been there done that and seen enough combat to know what I am talking about. |
Sentient Archon
Red Star.
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Posted - 2013.01.14 18:24:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Well, there goes the validity of Sentient Archon's post. Quickly undone by his own reply to a legit question that was on topic.
Good bye, my dear fellow. It's been nice calling you out on your behavior.
Bye and dont come back again. |
Sleepy Zan
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
2046
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Posted - 2013.01.14 18:28:00 -
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Awww shiiit, hell ya my scout will be untouchable |
Sentient Archon
Red Star.
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Posted - 2013.01.14 18:38:00 -
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kellyn whiteheart wrote: this could be interesting so long as it took stamina to do. just like running and jumping. it would also make it more useful to put stam rechargers and stuff on ur suits
I really like this idea. It would make going up against scout suits interesting. And we would see more stamina mods and speed mods being used.
+1 for this. |
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Arramakaian Eka
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
363
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Posted - 2013.01.14 20:03:00 -
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Sentient Archon wrote:kellyn whiteheart wrote: this could be interesting so long as it took stamina to do. just like running and jumping. it would also make it more useful to put stam rechargers and stuff on ur suits
I really like this idea. It would make going up against scout suits interesting. And we would see more stamina mods and speed mods being used. +1 for this.
You were much more entertaining when you were spewing nonsense laden with spelling mistakes. |
Sentient Archon
Red Star.
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Posted - 2013.01.14 20:11:00 -
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Arramakaian Eka wrote: You were much more entertaining when you were spewing nonsense laden with spelling mistakes.
If you think that was entertaining wait till you hear me in game reciting "Peter Piper picked a pan of pickled peppers" in a haji accent. .
Abot mi spaling mistooks I DILLIFAG ant teir iz no spalcheque! |
Roy Ventus
Foxhound Corporation
172
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Posted - 2013.01.14 20:27:00 -
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Crawling? No good reason.
Ducking? We got that.
Rolling? No good reason and probably wouldn't look good in a FPS with armor and equipment that probably weighs some craploads. Even in the 3PSes that I've played, rolling wasn't a good evasive maneuver. >_> People just rolled around all day and got HS'd when they came up.
Strafing? We got that.
Cover holding? Useless imo. Had it in a 3PS and the Online didn't even use the automatic cover button, they did it manually.
>____________> And whoever's [crying] about how GoW should be considered a FPS is a [silly person] because the game is a 3PS and there is nothing wrong with that. I mean if you're trolling then go ahead, you just need to improve your trolling methods. If you're not....ehh. |
DJINN leukoplast
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
288
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Posted - 2013.01.14 20:30:00 -
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Sentient Archon wrote:Off all the FPS games I have played so far, Dust 514 doesnt have any evasion options. By evasion options I mean options such as crawl or rolling forward/backward/to the side. The only thing we have is jump which I dont really consider an evasion option.
I think we should have evasion options escially something like a roll. This would make things more interesting in trying to avoid enemy fire.
What do you think?
I've never played a FPS game with 'evasion' as you speak, your thinking about TPS games.
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Orion Decline
Reckoners
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Posted - 2013.01.14 20:54:00 -
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DJINN leukoplast wrote:Sentient Archon wrote:Off all the FPS games I have played so far, Dust 514 doesnt have any evasion options. By evasion options I mean options such as crawl or rolling forward/backward/to the side. The only thing we have is jump which I dont really consider an evasion option.
I think we should have evasion options escially something like a roll. This would make things more interesting in trying to avoid enemy fire.
What do you think? I've never played a FPS game with 'evasion' as you speak, your thinking about TPS games. Syndicate. Brink. Mirror's Edge.
All of them have sliding as an option, and in all of them, it works the same way. Crouch while sprinting. Brink is the only one with PvP multiplayer, but they're all FPS games with evasion options other than jumping and crouching.
Would be nice to see a page taken out of those playbooks, but it's difficult to make the hitboxes work with moves like that, so maybe not the most practical option. |
BursegSardaukar
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
55
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Posted - 2013.01.14 21:03:00 -
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Sentient Archon wrote:Arramakaian Eka wrote: You were much more entertaining when you were spewing nonsense laden with spelling mistakes.
If you think that was entertaining wait till you hear me in game reciting "Peter Piper picked a pan of pickled peppers" in a haji accent. . Abot mi spaling mistooks I DILLIFAG ant teir iz no spalcheque!
It's okay, you aren't alone angrybro, there were plenty of ASVAB waivers in my unit, too. They also are now turning wrenches for $8 an hour instead of properly using the G.I. Bill and making something of themselves post-service. |
Government CheeseBurger
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
232
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Posted - 2013.01.14 21:11:00 -
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Somewhat related to the OP.
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=49887&find=unread |
Sentient Archon
Red Star.
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Posted - 2013.01.14 21:13:00 -
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Government CheeseBurger wrote:
Hmmmm didnt see that. I will try it out. |
Sentient Archon
Red Star.
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Posted - 2013.01.14 21:15:00 -
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Orion Decline wrote: Syndicate. Brink. Mirror's Edge.
All of them have sliding as an option, and in all of them, it works the same way. Crouch while sprinting. Brink is the only one with PvP multiplayer, but they're all FPS games with evasion options other than jumping and crouching.
Would be nice to see a page taken out of those playbooks, but it's difficult to make the hitboxes work with moves like that, so maybe not the most practical option.
+1 to you too. But dont spoil them by leading them to the information. They wil never learn. |
Goat of Dover
Shadow Company HQ
161
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Posted - 2013.01.14 21:24:00 -
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Orion Decline wrote:DJINN leukoplast wrote:Sentient Archon wrote:Off all the FPS games I have played so far, Dust 514 doesnt have any evasion options. By evasion options I mean options such as crawl or rolling forward/backward/to the side. The only thing we have is jump which I dont really consider an evasion option.
I think we should have evasion options escially something like a roll. This would make things more interesting in trying to avoid enemy fire.
What do you think? I've never played a FPS game with 'evasion' as you speak, your thinking about TPS games. Syndicate. Brink. Mirror's Edge. All of them have sliding as an option, and in all of them, it works the same way. Crouch while sprinting. Brink is the only one with PvP multiplayer, but they're all FPS games with evasion options other than jumping and crouching. Would be nice to see a page taken out of those playbooks, but it's difficult to make the hitboxes work with moves like that, so maybe not the most practical option.
I played Brink and I loved being the little guy and all the mobility you were so fast. You could come over a wall go into a slide take out one guy on the way around a corner come out of the slide pick up your guy with the needle and keep on going and never even be shot at it was great. Though it felt a little bit OP till you met someone face to face and realized that the bigger people had more health and bigger guns than you did. lol
On to the topic really, I think adding a little bit of mobility to the game would be great for it. The only thing about games with more evasion is it becomes more about your ability to dodge and not your ability to shoot. In this game it can take a little bit to take someone down already just add in some evasion and you will have some really long gun fights, although they will be interesting to see how someone gets the upper hand in them. |
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Sandromin Hes
Sand Mercenary Corps Inc.
204
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Posted - 2013.01.14 21:29:00 -
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Drommy Hood wrote:Lets play a guessing game instead. I'm thinking of a film, it has jack Nicholson and Adam sandler in it. What is the name of the film?
Anger MANAGEMENT! MY TURN!
Bruce Willis and guy with an accent. |
Forlorn Destrier
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
914
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Posted - 2013.01.14 21:53:00 -
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Sandromin Hes wrote:Drommy Hood wrote:Lets play a guessing game instead. I'm thinking of a film, it has jack Nicholson and Adam sandler in it. What is the name of the film? Anger MANAGEMENT! MY TURN! Bruce Willis and guy with an accent.
Considering everyone has an accent by definition, even if you don't hear it, this could be literally any movie he has appeared in where someone other than him talked. That said, I'm going with "The Kid". |
Drommy Hood
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
242
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Posted - 2013.01.14 22:05:00 -
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Sandromin Hes wrote:Drommy Hood wrote:Lets play a guessing game instead. I'm thinking of a film, it has jack Nicholson and Adam sandler in it. What is the name of the film? Anger MANAGEMENT! MY TURN! Bruce Willis and guy with an accent.
DIE HARD! |
Sobriety Denied
Universal Allies Inc.
432
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Posted - 2013.01.14 22:39:00 -
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Sentient Archon wrote:Yagihige wrote: Exactly what are those? AFAIK, rolling isn't that common in FPS games.
Stick to the topic dumbass. We are not discussing evasions in other games. We are talking about evasion options in this games. Its either a yes or no or a meaningfull suggestion. But since you wanna know check out gears of war. gow is 3rd person not F as in "first, genius"
your idea sux anyway. |
Dr Debo Galaxy
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
189
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Posted - 2013.01.14 22:44:00 -
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On topic, Your evasion option is your shields and armor and stamina. When I go and play said other FPS there is no chance of leaving a one on one battle once it starts. Usually there over in seconds. I have been in literally minute long one on one batlles. I mean how do people take down full health heavies in there faces. In my case evasion, if I can. |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
1058
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Posted - 2013.01.15 00:09:00 -
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I had the idea that jumping in any non-forward direction should be a roll. This would solve a lot of things; just remember that being able to roll forward would just be uncharted 3 multiplayer all over again where all the "good" players roll-spam constantly. |
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