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Nightbird Aeon
Brimstone Tactical
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.01.14 16:45:00 -
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As the subject line says, there needs to be a WP reward for stopping a hack.
Counter-hacking, in my experience, takes almost twice as long as a hack, and has no WP reward associated with it. While not as meaningful as a hack itself, there should be at least some moderate reward for taking the time and exposing yourself to enemy fire while you hack.
How about 25 WP for a counter-hack?
Thoughts? |
Vaerana Myshtana
ScIdama
Endless Renaissance
205
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Posted - 2013.01.14 16:59:00 -
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+1
I'd even be willing to go up to 50WP.
Either way, I've noticed people waiting to hack until it changes hands, presumably because of the extra hack time and the lack of WP rewards. |
Musta Tornius
BetaMax.
265
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Posted - 2013.01.14 17:24:00 -
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+1 I don't understand why this is not implemented. |
Knarf Black
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
397
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Posted - 2013.01.14 17:45:00 -
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This used to be the case, but people just farmed WP by hacking and rehacking over and over instead of shooting each other like proper mercs. |
Nightbird Aeon
Brimstone Tactical
Covert Intervention
86
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Posted - 2013.01.14 18:21:00 -
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Knarf Black wrote:This used to be the case, but people just farmed WP by hacking and rehacking over and over instead of shooting each other like proper mercs.
This makes no sense.... you only get your 100 points when the hack goes through,,, you get nothing if your hack gets counter-hacked.
So, there is no advantage to "gaming" the system and letting someone hack, then re-hack.
Right now, people are letting a hack finish before they back-hack, simply because its 100 points if you back-hack and nothing if you counter-hack. This mechanic is more prone to "gaming the system" then properly awarding people points for stopping the Null Cannon from turning over to the other team. |
Severus Smith
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
163
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Posted - 2013.01.14 19:19:00 -
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Knarf Black wrote:This used to be the case, but people just farmed WP by hacking and rehacking over and over instead of shooting each other like proper mercs. I could see how, in earlier builds, this mattered. As it equaled huge amounts of "exploited" SP. But now, with the SP cap, does it really mattered if two opposing players did this back and forth? At the end of the day they will get the same SP as everyone else (due to the cap). Why put an incentive on poor behavior (waiting until the hack is complete). Please grant WP for stopping a hack.
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Ulf Thunderkick
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
10
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Posted - 2013.01.14 22:37:00 -
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Severus Smith wrote:Knarf Black wrote:This used to be the case, but people just farmed WP by hacking and rehacking over and over instead of shooting each other like proper mercs. I could see how, in earlier builds, this mattered. As it equaled huge amounts of "exploited" SP. But now, with the SP cap, does it really mattered if two opposing players did this back and forth? At the end of the day they will get the same SP as everyone else (due to the cap). Why put an incentive on poor behavior (waiting until the hack is complete). Please grant WP for stopping a hack.
I agree with this. I counter-hack because I like winning a match, but I find it incredibly frustrating that there is no reward for doing it, whereas hacking does have a reward. |
James Thraxton
The Exemplars
75
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Posted - 2013.01.14 22:42:00 -
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+ 1 agreed, i want a reward for stopping a hack, it's much harder than initiating one |
Nightbird Aeon
Brimstone Tactical
Covert Intervention
86
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Posted - 2013.01.15 15:27:00 -
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What points do you guys think should be awarded? 25? 50? |
Green Living
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
RISE of LEGION
53
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Posted - 2013.01.15 15:32:00 -
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We have been asking for this since June. Good luck getting it now. |
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Cyn Bruin
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
654
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Posted - 2013.01.15 15:37:00 -
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Musta Tornius wrote:+1 I don't understand why this is not implemented.
Agreed. We've been asking for this for 3 builds now? Use an IF>THEN statement and get that sucker in...
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Thranx1231
CowTek
90
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Posted - 2013.01.15 16:32:00 -
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Yes!
Some reward.
It is actually very difficult to do by yourself. If the NC is over halfway hacked it is faster to wait and hack it after it turns Red. |
Knarf Black
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
397
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Posted - 2013.01.15 16:36:00 -
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Perhaps objectives should be unhackable for 5-10 seconds after switching sides. That would create some more incentive to stop the hack instead of waiting for it to flip. |
Pombe Geek
Red Star.
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Posted - 2013.01.15 16:58:00 -
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Knarf Black wrote:This used to be the case, but people just farmed WP by hacking and rehacking over and over instead of shooting each other like proper mercs.
This makes no sense - it takes longer to prevent a hack and the hacking team doesn't get any points if the hack doesn't finish. For this to be true, you would have to get points from initiating the hack and not if it finished or not.
Regardless - points for preventing a hack - +1
- or just reduce the time needed to prevent a hack. As it is now, you almost have to start the re-hack right after the null cannon had been hacked otherwise it won't finish in time. |
V Shadow
DUST University
Ivy League
34
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Posted - 2013.01.28 01:15:00 -
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was sent here from a topic I made on the same problem +1 Its annoying watching several people just sitting at a point waiting for it to tick over so they get points. |
Val'herik Dorn
CrimeWave Syndicate
264
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Posted - 2013.01.28 01:34:00 -
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I always counter hack. I get a sort of odd pleasure from knowing that somewhere on the battlefield a reddot is screaming at his blueberries for letting his hack get stopped. |
Patoman Radiant
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
53
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Posted - 2013.01.28 02:53:00 -
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Someone who hacks is a sitting duck, kill them to get 50 or 25 assist if others gunning them too.
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Ragmesesis
The Lusitans
6
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Posted - 2013.01.28 03:02:00 -
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a reward would be nice |
Vaerana Myshtana
ScIdama
Endless Renaissance
205
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Posted - 2013.01.28 04:41:00 -
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+10000 |
Jason Sera
DUST University
Ivy League
18
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Posted - 2013.01.28 04:58:00 -
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Definitely should get points for a counter hack. |
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