DUST Search - Corp UVT, what are your opinions

Tiel Syysch wrote:

SoTa PoP wrote:

Tiel Syysch wrote:

Forlorn Destrier wrote:

Julius Vindice wrote:

Somebody may have posted this earlier but I hope if we can make our thoughts be heard CCP may do something about it. I for one hate it, what do ya'll think about it?

I have no problem with it. You get the basics of the game for free, for advanced features we have to pay. Seems right for a micro transaction game, especially when you factor in the price:

40k aurum = $20 US
1 aurum = $0.0005 US
1k aurum (price for 30 days UVT) = $0.50 US

Two quarters seems a good price to talk for 30 days since there isn't a monthly subscription to pay; pay phones charge this for a single call of like 5 minutes.

EDIT: and this is an out of combat utility which means it is a convenience factor, not game impacting.

And then you factor in something like a corp being the size of 300 players, and you're spending $150 a month to talk to each other. You could do that vastly cheaper with some other service.

what? How the hell did you pull $150 out of your ass? It's 50 cents a month per person >_> Why would you pay for your entire corp as one person when each could pay just 50 cents like your suppose too >_>

It's the collective amount. Sure it's only $0.50 to you, but that corp as a whole is still paying $150 a month together, when they could do it a lot cheaper somewhere else.

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Julius Vindice Anonymous Killers Mercenary Corporation 39	Posted - 2013.01.11 17:56:00 - [1] - Quote Somebody may have posted this earlier but I hope if we can make our thoughts be heard CCP may do something about it. I for one hate it, what do ya'll think about it?
Noc Tempre Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1170	Posted - 2013.01.11 18:01:00 - [2] - Quote Who pays? Stupid system is stupid. I only bought UVT until we decide on which 3rd party deserves our money for a better service.
Forlorn Destrier ZionTCD Legacy Rising 914	Posted - 2013.01.11 18:04:00 - [3] - Quote Julius Vindice wrote: Somebody may have posted this earlier but I hope if we can make our thoughts be heard CCP may do something about it. I for one hate it, what do ya'll think about it? I have no problem with it. You get the basics of the game for free, for advanced features we have to pay. Seems right for a micro transaction game, especially when you factor in the price: 40k aurum = $20 US 1 aurum = $0.0005 US 1k aurum (price for 30 days UVT) = $0.50 US Two quarters seems a good price to talk for 30 days since there isn't a monthly subscription to pay; pay phones charge this for a single call of like 5 minutes. EDIT: and this is an out of combat utility which means it is a convenience factor, not game impacting.
DEADPOOL5241 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 231	Posted - 2013.01.11 18:06:00 - [4] - Quote Forlorn Destrier wrote: Julius Vindice wrote: Somebody may have posted this earlier but I hope if we can make our thoughts be heard CCP may do something about it. I for one hate it, what do ya'll think about it? I have no problem with it. You get the basics of the game for free, for advanced features we have to pay. Seems right for a micro transaction game, especially when you factor in the price: 40k aurum = $20 US 1 aurum = $0.0005 US 1k aurum (price for 30 days UVT) = $0.50 US Two quarters seems a good price to talk for 30 days since there isn't a monthly subscription to pay; pay phones charge this for a single call of like 5 minutes. EDIT: and this is an out of combat utility which means it is a convenience factor, not game impacting. Is it back to 1 AUR for 30 days? or 10 or 1000 ? Hi Forlorn!!! Whats up buddy
Forlorn Destrier ZionTCD Legacy Rising 914	Posted - 2013.01.11 18:07:00 - [5] - Quote Noc Tempre wrote: Who pays? Stupid system is stupid. I only bought UVT until we decide on which 3rd party deserves our money for a better service. Nothing wrong with using a 3rd party system - happens in games all the time.
Forlorn Destrier ZionTCD Legacy Rising 914	Posted - 2013.01.11 18:08:00 - [6] - Quote DEADPOOL5241 wrote: Forlorn Destrier wrote: Julius Vindice wrote: Somebody may have posted this earlier but I hope if we can make our thoughts be heard CCP may do something about it. I for one hate it, what do ya'll think about it? I have no problem with it. You get the basics of the game for free, for advanced features we have to pay. Seems right for a micro transaction game, especially when you factor in the price: 40k aurum = $20 US 1 aurum = $0.0005 US 1k aurum (price for 30 days UVT) = $0.50 US Two quarters seems a good price to talk for 30 days since there isn't a monthly subscription to pay; pay phones charge this for a single call of like 5 minutes. EDIT: and this is an out of combat utility which means it is a convenience factor, not game impacting. Is it back to 1 AUR for 30 days? or 10 or 1000 ? Hi Forlorn!!! Whats up buddy I have no idea if they changed it back - I got mine for 10 aurum yesterday immediately after DT and haven't checked the price again. I've heard from the forums that it was 1k now and that people were unahappy. DEADPOOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
METR0 THE DESTR0YER Imperfects Negative-Feedback 76	Posted - 2013.01.11 18:13:00 - [7] - Quote It's supposed to be getting fixed soon......I hope.
polarzus ZionTCD Legacy Rising 19	Posted - 2013.01.11 18:18:00 - [8] - Quote So are there actually common problems with the UVTs? just bought one and still not able to use it...
Tiel Syysch Imperfects Negative-Feedback 633	Posted - 2013.01.11 18:28:00 - [9] - Quote Forlorn Destrier wrote: Julius Vindice wrote: Somebody may have posted this earlier but I hope if we can make our thoughts be heard CCP may do something about it. I for one hate it, what do ya'll think about it? I have no problem with it. You get the basics of the game for free, for advanced features we have to pay. Seems right for a micro transaction game, especially when you factor in the price: 40k aurum = $20 US 1 aurum = $0.0005 US 1k aurum (price for 30 days UVT) = $0.50 US Two quarters seems a good price to talk for 30 days since there isn't a monthly subscription to pay; pay phones charge this for a single call of like 5 minutes. EDIT: and this is an out of combat utility which means it is a convenience factor, not game impacting. And then you factor in something like a corp being the size of 300 players, and you're spending $150 a month to talk to each other. You could do that vastly cheaper with some other service.
DEADPOOL5241 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 231	Posted - 2013.01.11 18:28:00 - [10] - Quote Forlorn Destrier wrote: DEADPOOL5241 wrote: Forlorn Destrier wrote: Julius Vindice wrote: Somebody may have posted this earlier but I hope if we can make our thoughts be heard CCP may do something about it. I for one hate it, what do ya'll think about it? I have no problem with it. You get the basics of the game for free, for advanced features we have to pay. Seems right for a micro transaction game, especially when you factor in the price: 40k aurum = $20 US 1 aurum = $0.0005 US 1k aurum (price for 30 days UVT) = $0.50 US Two quarters seems a good price to talk for 30 days since there isn't a monthly subscription to pay; pay phones charge this for a single call of like 5 minutes. EDIT: and this is an out of combat utility which means it is a convenience factor, not game impacting. Is it back to 1 AUR for 30 days? or 10 or 1000 ? Hi Forlorn!!! Whats up buddy I have no idea if they changed it back - I got mine for 10 aurum yesterday immediately after DT and haven't checked the price again. I've heard from the forums that it was 1k now and that people were unahappy. DEADPOOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Bought mine for 1000 AUR, figured if it got fixed I would get it back. Lost all 7 of my merc packs, I was an idiot and terminated the avatar that had all the packs assigned to it. Sent petition to CCP to get them back. But in the mean time I have 500,000 AUR in my accounts. FORLORN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (HI)

SoTa PoP Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1772	Posted - 2013.01.11 18:29:00 - [11] - Quote Tiel Syysch wrote: Forlorn Destrier wrote: Julius Vindice wrote: Somebody may have posted this earlier but I hope if we can make our thoughts be heard CCP may do something about it. I for one hate it, what do ya'll think about it? I have no problem with it. You get the basics of the game for free, for advanced features we have to pay. Seems right for a micro transaction game, especially when you factor in the price: 40k aurum = $20 US 1 aurum = $0.0005 US 1k aurum (price for 30 days UVT) = $0.50 US Two quarters seems a good price to talk for 30 days since there isn't a monthly subscription to pay; pay phones charge this for a single call of like 5 minutes. EDIT: and this is an out of combat utility which means it is a convenience factor, not game impacting. And then you factor in something like a corp being the size of 300 players, and you're spending $150 a month to talk to each other. You could do that vastly cheaper with some other service. what? How the hell did you pull $150 out of your ass? It's 50 cents a month per person >_> Why would you pay for your entire corp as one person when each could pay just 50 cents like your suppose too >_>
Scrubmuffin Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 7	Posted - 2013.01.11 18:34:00 - [12] - Quote 10 people 5 dolla 100 people 50 dolla 300 people 150 dolla Numberz iz hard
Schazla WarRavens 159	Posted - 2013.01.11 18:35:00 - [13] - Quote People always ask me: You are a grouch. Why are you always a grouch? *****, I live in a trash can. I live in Bosnia son.
BursegSardaukar Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance 55	Posted - 2013.01.11 18:36:00 - [14] - Quote I've only just joined this toon to my EVE corp last night and plan on starting up a recruitment drive, but since we use Ventrilo (on voice activate mode on a PC) we have no use for the UVT. Will this limit who we can recruit? Only if they care enough to want to be a part of voice comms. We aren't all "super-serial" in SMERG. As long as the dudes attack the beacons when the squad brings them into matches, we'll all get along well.
SoTa PoP Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1772	Posted - 2013.01.11 18:38:00 - [15] - Quote your not paying 150 just because your corp is large - it's 50 cents a month. period.
Tiel Syysch Imperfects Negative-Feedback 633	Posted - 2013.01.11 18:41:00 - [16] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: Tiel Syysch wrote: Forlorn Destrier wrote: Julius Vindice wrote: Somebody may have posted this earlier but I hope if we can make our thoughts be heard CCP may do something about it. I for one hate it, what do ya'll think about it? I have no problem with it. You get the basics of the game for free, for advanced features we have to pay. Seems right for a micro transaction game, especially when you factor in the price: 40k aurum = $20 US 1 aurum = $0.0005 US 1k aurum (price for 30 days UVT) = $0.50 US Two quarters seems a good price to talk for 30 days since there isn't a monthly subscription to pay; pay phones charge this for a single call of like 5 minutes. EDIT: and this is an out of combat utility which means it is a convenience factor, not game impacting. And then you factor in something like a corp being the size of 300 players, and you're spending $150 a month to talk to each other. You could do that vastly cheaper with some other service. what? How the hell did you pull $150 out of your ass? It's 50 cents a month per person >_> Why would you pay for your entire corp as one person when each could pay just 50 cents like your suppose too >_> It's the collective amount. Sure it's only $0.50 to you, but that corp as a whole is still paying $150 a month together, when they could do it a lot cheaper somewhere else.
Forlorn Destrier ZionTCD Legacy Rising 914	Posted - 2013.01.11 18:42:00 - [17] - Quote Tiel Syysch wrote: Forlorn Destrier wrote: Julius Vindice wrote: Somebody may have posted this earlier but I hope if we can make our thoughts be heard CCP may do something about it. I for one hate it, what do ya'll think about it? I have no problem with it. You get the basics of the game for free, for advanced features we have to pay. Seems right for a micro transaction game, especially when you factor in the price: 40k aurum = $20 US 1 aurum = $0.0005 US 1k aurum (price for 30 days UVT) = $0.50 US Two quarters seems a good price to talk for 30 days since there isn't a monthly subscription to pay; pay phones charge this for a single call of like 5 minutes. EDIT: and this is an out of combat utility which means it is a convenience factor, not game impacting. And then you factor in something like a corp being the size of 300 players, and you're spending $150 a month to talk to each other. You could do that vastly cheaper with some other service. If this were a subscription game, then a 300 man corp would be pay in the area of $4500 US per month. I don't see your point. Also, this is not limited to your corp - this lets you talk in any channel - it isn't a corp expense it's an individual expense. I could see your argument as more valid if this was only for corp to speak to each other, then the price should be lower based on a bulk discount.
Scrubmuffin Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 7	Posted - 2013.01.11 18:43:00 - [18] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: your not paying 150 just because your corp is large - it's 50 cents a month. period. I'm pretty sure he was saying it as a whole, your corp would pay 150 per month. If you would like me to clarify... One person pays 0.50 per month for the UVT, now multiply that by 300 people you get? That's right 150 dolla.
Arramakaian Eka Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 363	Posted - 2013.01.11 18:45:00 - [19] - Quote BursegSardaukar wrote: I've only just joined this toon to my EVE corp last night and plan on starting up a recruitment drive, but since we use Ventrilo (on voice activate mode on a PC) we have no use for the UVT. Will this limit who we can recruit? Only if they care enough to want to be a part of voice comms. We aren't all "super-serial" in SMERG. As long as the dudes attack the beacons when the squad brings them into matches, we'll all get along well. It will limit who you can recruit. I'd imagine almost everyone worth recruiting either has or is considering getting a BT headset already. Of course there will be some who have a PC headset already, and some who will consider setting one up, but those are probably fewer in the PS3 gaming population. I've played with vent/TS/mumble enough over the years to know that PS3 BT connection is much less likely to require driver updates, Windows tweaking, and other acrobatics. I moved to console gaming in large part to avoid the BS that goes with PC gaming. Still use mumble with rl friends, though. Have to set my BT headset every single time since Win7 forgets the settings every single time and I end up with all audio coming from the headset.
SoTa PoP Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1772	Posted - 2013.01.11 18:45:00 - [20] - Quote Tiel Syysch wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: Tiel Syysch wrote: Forlorn Destrier wrote: Julius Vindice wrote: Somebody may have posted this earlier but I hope if we can make our thoughts be heard CCP may do something about it. I for one hate it, what do ya'll think about it? I have no problem with it. You get the basics of the game for free, for advanced features we have to pay. Seems right for a micro transaction game, especially when you factor in the price: 40k aurum = $20 US 1 aurum = $0.0005 US 1k aurum (price for 30 days UVT) = $0.50 US Two quarters seems a good price to talk for 30 days since there isn't a monthly subscription to pay; pay phones charge this for a single call of like 5 minutes. EDIT: and this is an out of combat utility which means it is a convenience factor, not game impacting. And then you factor in something like a corp being the size of 300 players, and you're spending $150 a month to talk to each other. You could do that vastly cheaper with some other service. what? How the hell did you pull $150 out of your ass? It's 50 cents a month per person >_> Why would you pay for your entire corp as one person when each could pay just 50 cents like your suppose too >_> It's the collective amount. Sure it's only $0.50 to you, but that corp as a whole is still paying $150 a month together, when they could do it a lot cheaper somewhere else. I help run a dedicated server that helps several communities run Team Speak for cheaper prices - so let me tell you ... I'd much prefer everyone pay a small amount then 1 person paying for all. Though with services like C3 out soon TS will be obsolete and even paying a quarter will be substantial to the many services they provide for free. Oh how times change. Now where's my over-devoloped cookies?

SoTa PoP Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1772	Posted - 2013.01.11 18:46:00 - [21] - Quote Scrubmuffin wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: your not paying 150 just because your corp is large - it's 50 cents a month. period. I'm pretty sure he was saying it as a whole, your corp would pay 150 per month. If you would like me to clarify... One person pays 0.50 per month for the UVT, now multiply that by 300 people you get? That's right 150 dolla. yea - my bad. Read it wrong and took it differently then I should. Forgive me Tiel xD
Tiel Syysch Imperfects Negative-Feedback 633	Posted - 2013.01.11 18:53:00 - [22] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: I help run a dedicated server that helps several communities run Team Speak for cheaper prices - so let me tell you ... I'd much prefer everyone pay a small amount then 1 person paying for all. Though with services like C3 out soon TS will be obsolete and even paying a quarter will be substantial to the many services they provide for free. Oh how times change. Now where's my over-devoloped cookies? shrug Depends on the group. I haven't had problems getting people to chip in for teams I've been on in the past, or split it up where one person pays this month, someone else pays the next, etc. It doesn't always have to be all on one guy to provide the server for everyone. Either way, any corp that is going to have a reasonable amount of players will be better off looking elsewhere for voice comms services, as the price for the group is pretty high for individual UVTs.
KEROSIINI-TERO Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 248	Posted - 2013.01.11 19:03:00 - [23] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: Tiel Syysch wrote: And then you factor in something like a corp being the size of 300 players, and you're spending $150 a month to talk to each other. You could do that vastly cheaper with some other service. what? How the hell did you pull $150 out of your ass? It's 50 cents a month per person >_> Why would you pay for your entire corp as one person when each could pay just 50 cents like your suppose too >_> He meant that some company (CCP->third party voice provider) gets more than usually in the likes of ventrilo or TS. But there are many points on this topic: - No voice service is absolutely free. There has to be some income for upkeep, plus some profit (unless it's private service which is motivated elsehow) - True, the voice provider may gain more than normally per user - Usually a single player pays TS3 / Ventrilo / whatever from his own RL wallet, and may or may not get any compensation. - In Dust ingtegrated voice every person does pay their own voice usage. I think that's a good thing and makes it easier for smaller corps - Dust integrated voice is easy to use and does not require a pc next to you - Dust integrated voice makes it possible to speak to strangers if needed I would say the universality and ease of use make it worthwile to pay some extra. I find the current price small enough. And, CCP was considering releasing a corporate voice pack which can be bought by the directors and therefore fee corp voice/UVT for memebrs
Noc Tempre Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1170	Posted - 2013.01.11 19:38:00 - [24] - Quote Furthermore, you have to be on dust or eve to communicate. TS3 can work on nearly any device, and is significantly cheaper. Free corp chat was the ONLY way you were going to bring eggheads back to in game com's, which would IMPROVE the sale of uvt, but this scheme blows it.
Moonracer2000 Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 311	Posted - 2013.01.11 20:18:00 - [25] - Quote I have a keyboard and it does all of the communication I need outside of battle. cheaper in the long run (only pay once, often free if you know where to look). I will probably buy a couple 1 day UVTs and use them for setting up special events. I think corp leaders and alliance administrators will need them a lot more than average grunts like me.
Gunner Visari Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 163	Posted - 2013.01.11 20:55:00 - [26] - Quote Noc Tempre wrote: Who pays? Stupid system is stupid. I only bought UVT until we decide on which 3rd party deserves our money for a better service. Isn't TS free?
Vance Alken Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 94	Posted - 2013.01.11 21:26:00 - [27] - Quote UVT for corps is a poorly thought out idea, Mumble/Teamspeak/Ventrilo are all more fully featured programs for the price of free. (On the end user's side at least)
Nahtlog BetaMax. 16	Posted - 2013.01.11 22:14:00 - [28] - Quote 50 cents doesn't seem so bad, but you can always consider that we can just sell AUR items for ISK, right? Heck, there may even be AUR tokens like in EVE to purchase AUR with ISK.
Forlorn Destrier ZionTCD Legacy Rising 914	Posted - 2013.01.11 22:58:00 - [29] - Quote Gunner Visari wrote: Noc Tempre wrote: Who pays? Stupid system is stupid. I only bought UVT until we decide on which 3rd party deserves our money for a better service. Isn't TS free? You have to have a server to host is; most groups rent server space.
Forlorn Destrier ZionTCD Legacy Rising 914	Posted - 2013.01.11 22:58:00 - [30] - Quote Nahtlog wrote: 50 cents doesn't seem so bad, but you can always consider that we can just sell AUR items for ISK, right? Heck, there may even be AUR tokens like in EVE to purchase AUR with ISK. ^^ This



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