DUST Search - CCP; are you F*cking kidding?

ALM1GHTY STATIUS wrote:

seriously? after all these SP plans have been proposed you do nothing about it? infact you make it worse by making those with IRL money even more dominant?!? this is simply a joke, I used to be able to buy a 3-day booster, burn my SP, and not have to spend all that much money, but now just to stay f*cking competitive I have to pay you every F*CKING WEEK! legitimately CCP, I hate you, I hate you with a burning passion, and if there was any other half-decent FPS w/ a community you would drop like a rock. You're one of the most one-sided, ridiculous game devs I've ever seen, whenever such a large portion of a game has ever complained about something SO MUCH, it has gotten changed, in any other game.

This is an FPS, we are not EVE scrubs, we want balance, we want to be able to fight veterans with proto gear if we have militia simply because we can catch up to their SP with hard work, SKILL, and determination. YOU are creating a game that YOU want to live for what was it? 7 years? but you design it to be a one to three year game! this is out of hand CCP. You're ideas are so contradictive I do not even know what to say about them other than LISTEN TO US!

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ALM1GHTY STATIUS Imperfects Negative-Feedback 261	Posted - 2013.01.08 10:44:00 - [1] - Quote seriously? after all these SP plans have been proposed you do nothing about it? infact you make it worse by making those with IRL money even more dominant?!? this is simply a joke, I used to be able to buy a 3-day booster, burn my SP, and not have to spend all that much money, but now just to stay fcking competitive I have to pay you every FCKING WEEK! legitimately CCP, I hate you, I hate you with a burning passion, and if there was any other half-decent FPS w/ a community you would drop like a rock. You're one of the most one-sided, ridiculous game devs I've ever seen, whenever such a large portion of a game has ever complained about something SO MUCH, it has gotten changed, in any other game. This is an FPS, we are not EVE scrubs, we want balance, we want to be able to fight veterans with proto gear if we have militia simply because we can catch up to their SP with hard work, SKILL, and determination. YOU are creating a game that YOU want to live for what was it? 7 years? but you design it to be a one to three year game! this is out of hand CCP. You're ideas are so contradictive I do not even know what to say about them other than LISTEN TO US!
KalOfTheRathi CowTek 168	Posted - 2013.01.08 11:02:00 - [2] - Quote We wouldn't be so lucky as to your middle name being Steve, would we. Or Studly even?
Sha Kharn Clone Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 1087	Posted - 2013.01.08 11:06:00 - [3] - Quote Well i get why peeps are pissed at this. The SP system matters and we all care about it. As OP said so many great ideas have been posted and your ignoring all of them and just going backwards fast. SP system development before everything!!!! All you need to do is add a rolling over sp pool and it will fix so much. Man just go read all the sp system suggestions that litter these forums.
Gauder Berwyck Deadly Blue Dots RISE of LEGION 217	Posted - 2013.01.08 11:07:00 - [4] - Quote May I suggest you get a job?
The dark cloud Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 1060	Posted - 2013.01.08 11:08:00 - [5] - Quote i kinda have to agree. CCP just made observations from the marketplace and saw that 3day boosters are the main selling thing. Why? Cause you only needed 3 days to hit the weekly hard cap. Now you need to buy 7 day boosters to get the same effect. Basically you have to throw out more real money to achieve the same effect. This is no SP change this is just a marketing move to get CCP more money. n00bs will have now a even harder time cause you need to play every day otherwise you are missing out SP. At the old system a casual player could log on the weekend. Play a couple of hours and he was set. Seriously did any 1 actually asked for this? I highly doubt it. Why do we give feedback when CCP just goes with the option that gives them more money? Sha Kharn Clone wrote: Well i get why peeps are pissed at this. The SP system matters and we all care about it. As OP said so many great ideas have been posted and your ignoring all of them and just going backwards fast. SP system development before everything!!!! All you need to do is add a rolling over sp pool and it will fix so much. Man just go read all the sp system suggestions that litter these forums. wont work if you would be aible to roll over the SP limit from previous days then you could just dont play 4 days and then buy a 3 day booster to get the same effect. Which results that CCP gets less money.
Sha Kharn Clone Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 1087	Posted - 2013.01.08 11:11:00 - [6] - Quote I didnt even think about the boosters and while that wont effect me its making have a litte nerd rage about how its going to hurt the game for so many peeps. Come on CCP just make a post saying your working on a better system or somthing. EDIT: well dark they aint gona make more money with this rubbish system becuase its going to turn many away. SP rolling pool system can work and belive it or not peeps actually do wana play this game.
Bendtner92 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 369	Posted - 2013.01.08 11:14:00 - [7] - Quote This new system is beyond me as well. For this "temporary SP system", the only change they should have made was to remove the diminishing returns. About the 5 SP per second in battle. It's a nice idea, but now people will just sit in the MCC the whole match and get 5k SP without doing anything.
The dark cloud Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 1060	Posted - 2013.01.08 11:18:00 - [8] - Quote I highly doubt it that they will change it again. Well i expect that most players have run out of aurum at this point and im not going to buy more. I start to believe that we are just here to test the marketplace. Another thing is they never told us anything before what the exact hardcap is. And now all off a sudden they come up with hard numbers and telling us that we get a cap that resets every day. This is psychological trick. The community is seeing now that 3day boosters wont be enough anymore to hit the weekly hardcap so the competetive guys need to get the 7 day boosters which cost much more then the 3 day boosters. This means that we are going to burn trough aurum much quicker. And if you keep want to use 7 day boosters you need to buy more aurum.
KripnawtiQ Prime L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 206	Posted - 2013.01.08 11:19:00 - [9] - Quote Gauder Berwyck wrote: May I suggest you get a job? WTF! Thats the whole point. Some of us DO have jobs and lives. As stated above the SP system matters. Now those of us with other obligations have to find time to play every day or fall behind. This is a BS post.
KingBabar Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 441	Posted - 2013.01.08 11:22:00 - [10] - Quote ALM1GHTY STATIUS wrote: seriously? after all these SP plans have been proposed you do nothing about it? infact you make it worse by making those with IRL money even more dominant?!? this is simply a joke, I used to be able to buy a 3-day booster, burn my SP, and not have to spend all that much money, but now just to stay fcking competitive I have to pay you every FCKING WEEK! legitimately CCP, I hate you, I hate you with a burning passion, and if there was any other half-decent FPS w/ a community you would drop like a rock. You're one of the most one-sided, ridiculous game devs I've ever seen, whenever such a large portion of a game has ever complained about something SO MUCH, it has gotten changed, in any other game. This is an FPS, we are not EVE scrubs, we want balance, we want to be able to fight veterans with proto gear if we have militia simply because we can catch up to their SP with hard work, SKILL, and determination. YOU are creating a game that YOU want to live for what was it? 7 years? but you design it to be a one to three year game! this is out of hand CCP. You're ideas are so contradictive I do not even know what to say about them other than LISTEN TO US! Get a job, start a paper route or perhaps your mother can bake some for you and you can have a little sidewalk caf+¿, don't forget the lemonade, that would be so cute... Come on Almighty, you are such a good player that you'll get 50% more skillpoints than just about anybody in this game anyways. No active boosters are required. On second thought, being the Elite you really shouldn't suffer at all if you don't max your skillpoints out every single day either.

Flyingconejo KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 82	Posted - 2013.01.08 11:26:00 - [11] - Quote ALM1GHTY STATIUS wrote: . You're ideas are so contradictive Pretty much this. I wish they would make up their minds already.
Sha Kharn Clone Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 1087	Posted - 2013.01.08 11:28:00 - [12] - Quote ThatGÇÖs not the point Barbar and while IMP troll wars can be funny I honestly think everyone needs to work together on this because it matters. I agree dark this is all about marketing and making money. Yes CCP need to make money thats what this is all about for them but this is not the way to do it. Hell personally I will throw money at you for a good game but donGÇÖt pull this bull with the SP system. Edit: Feedback thread
KingBabar Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 441	Posted - 2013.01.08 11:38:00 - [13] - Quote Sha Kharn Clone wrote: ThatGÇÖs not the point Barbar and while IMP troll wars can be funny I honestly think everyone needs to work together on this because it matters. I agree dark this is all about marketing and making money. Yes CCP need to make money thats what this is all about for them but this is not the way to do it. Hell personally I will throw money at you for a good game but donGÇÖt pull this bull with the SP system. I have nothing unsaid with Almighty, I played with him last week and all is good. This was not an attempt at trolling, I'm actually stating the fact, in a sincere and complementary way that he is so good (and I know this both from MAG and Dust) that he probabbly will need less time to hit the daily cap without boosters compared to me with a booster. No trolling intended, just a friendly pun. Another angle is that the people with jobs, wives and kids have less time to play and more money to spend, seems quite fair to me. Someone have to finance this game after all.
Laurent Cazaderon Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 1155	Posted - 2013.01.08 11:52:00 - [14] - Quote Bendtner92 wrote: This new system is beyond me as well. For this "temporary SP system", the only change they should have made was to remove the diminishing returns. Agreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed Weekly was a good timeframe. Only problem was how fast you'd get SP at first..... Then, all it needed was a hard limit on how low you could drop earning SP (say 1000 SP per game) and it was SPOT ON. Just needed something for late-comers. And the 5 SP per 1 second on the BF ? ABSOLUTE non-sense. Quick math : 27200 Sp / 5 => 5440 seconds => 1 hour and a half AFK and your maxxed capped ! Another quick math : 20 minutes skirmish with 2000 WP earned. A good game. => 2000 Wp = 2000 Sp => 20 minutes game = 20 * 60 seconds * 5 SP => 6000 SP Okay, so you did a good game and compared to the sucker that stayed AFK, or redlined sniped, you get 2000 SP more or less ?!!! And in ONE GAME, you earned 1/3 of your daily cap ? How is anyone supposed to wanna play more than 3/4 games a day ? Where is the SP pool ? the Sp not earned being reported on the next day ? The feeling of reward for doing a good game ? Regarding boosters now. Are you people sure it will give +50% compared to the cap ? Or is it just helping you in reaching the cap faster ? Coz both ways, boosters become non-sense : 1) +50% more cap = Pay-to-win. 2) Reach cap 50% faster = useless with such a system.
Flyingconejo KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 82	Posted - 2013.01.08 11:54:00 - [15] - Quote KingBabar wrote: [quote=Sha Kharn Clone] Someone have to finance this game after all. Ok, you do it then. I will pay for good playing experience. But I wont pay for the luxury of having to grind each single day as if Dust was a job.
Laurent Cazaderon Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 1155	Posted - 2013.01.08 11:55:00 - [16] - Quote Flyingconejo wrote: KingBabar wrote: [quote=Sha Kharn Clone] Someone have to finance this game after all. Ok, you do it then. I will pay for good playing experience. But I wont pay for the luxury of having to grind each single day as if Dust was a job. And thank you as well !
Oxskull Duncarino Shadow Company HQ 162	Posted - 2013.01.08 11:56:00 - [17] - Quote KingBabar wrote: Another angle is that the people with jobs, wives and kids have less time to play and more money to spend, seems quite fair to me. Someone have to finance this game after all. I can't agree more with ya KingBabar. Someone has to pay the bill. There's people playing this game that hear free to play and therefore think they should be easily able to stay neck to neck with those that pay a couple of bob to soften their playtime. All options are available to any player. Those that don't pay any money just have to play a bit longer. I haven't used boosters since before the end of November last. My skill at shooting people in the head has gone through the floor but I still do grand on SP.
Sha Kharn Clone Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 1087	Posted - 2013.01.08 11:57:00 - [18] - Quote Barbar you understand this new system and think itsa good idea ? I just donGÇÖt understand itGÇÖs going to totally ruin the casual players. This systems going to be awesome for me personally because I have no life atm but itGÇÖs not cool for the community in my eyes. Also soz I misunderstood ya fun with the Op. Edit: Yes someone has to pay no one's against that . No one has issue with that its the fact that you dont log in every day you fall behind and can never ever fix that. Causual players will get owned even more than now.
Laurent Cazaderon Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 1155	Posted - 2013.01.08 12:01:00 - [19] - Quote Sha Kharn Clone wrote: Barbar you understand this new system and think itsa good idea ? I just donGÇÖt understand itGÇÖs going to totally ruin the casual players. This systems going to be awesome for me personally because I have no life atm but itGÇÖs not cool for the community in my eyes. Also soz I misunderstood ya fun with the Op. Edit: Yes someone has to pay no one's against that . No one has issue with that its the fact that you dont log in every day you fall behind and can never ever fix that. Causual players will get owned even more than now. This is officially my new "thank you" thread. Unless there is some kind of system to gather SP "lost", this **** is dumb. And even if it had such a system, it is dumb just for the 1 sec = 5 SP thingy while in game

CCP Frame C C P C C P Alliance 470	Posted - 2013.01.08 12:03:00 - [20] - Quote For all the Skill Point system feedback please post in the Feedback/Requests section: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=topics&f=730 Thank you.




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