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Konohamaru Sarutobi
Ahrendee Mercenaries
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.01.08 01:06:00 -
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Will make the game less "spammer" and will incentive the players to get skill.
And with this request I want to add "negative points" for people that kill guys of their team.
Thinking in "new players" who need to "know" the game mechanics, you can put a "safe mode" without friendly fire, just to start. Plus, what's more realistic than friendly fire?
I was watching some Call of Duty videos (game that I never played) and it's look stupid, people just spamming granades and shooting trought their teammates.
Sorry for the english. See you.
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Elijah Sol' Dzusaki
Onward Defrosted Tuna Team
485
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Posted - 2013.01.08 01:29:00 -
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You afraid to admit that you have played COD? Why are people like that on this forum?
Also as a heavy I would get so many TKs from stupid friendly's walking in front of my HMG so I say no. |
Blondie Roads
Doomheim
10
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Posted - 2013.01.08 01:29:00 -
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With ff you will undoubtedly see haters signing in with an alt and exacting revenge on their foes. Hard to implement without major issues. |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
1062
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Posted - 2013.01.08 01:30:00 -
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Not for pub matches- when we start being able to choose are fights (and how the corp battles are now), friendly fire is acceptable. Otherwise, trolling would be too big of an issue.
As far as corp battles go, I want to see friendly fire ASAP so the use of orbitals is more tactical. |
Konohamaru Sarutobi
Ahrendee Mercenaries
Legacy Rising
91
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Posted - 2013.01.08 02:14:00 -
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Elijah Sol' Dzusaki wrote:You afraid to admit that you have played COD? Why are people like that on this forum?
Also as a heavy I would get so many TKs from stupid friendly's walking in front of my HMG so I say no.
No. I just have 1 FPS: Killzone 2. I like RPGs as FF, Elder Scroll, etc. I like this game because of the "SP" history. Develop a character? That's my game.
Bullets throwing teammates? Newbie. As a heavy you must see where do you shoot and don't spam bullets over all your screen. Hard? No, just not newbie. |
Konohamaru Sarutobi
Ahrendee Mercenaries
Legacy Rising
91
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Posted - 2013.01.08 02:17:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Not for pub matches- when we start being able to choose are fights (and how the corp battles are now), friendly fire is acceptable. Otherwise, trolling would be too big of an issue.
As far as corp battles go, I want to see friendly fire ASAP so the use of orbitals is more tactical.
I don't know what "pub matches" means. I ask for friendly fire when you reach "some level", or maybe if you want to play with it. Spamming granades without hurt any friend suit, that's troll too. |
Konohamaru Sarutobi
Ahrendee Mercenaries
Legacy Rising
91
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Posted - 2013.01.08 02:20:00 -
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Blondie Roads wrote:With ff you will undoubtedly see haters signing in with an alt and exacting revenge on their foes. Hard to implement without major issues.
What about Sleepy Zan crushing me with his "Saga Angel something else"? No penalty? Nice one.
"Kick option" (maybe after reach some "friendly kills" level).
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Tiel Syysch
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
634
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Posted - 2013.01.08 02:38:00 -
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Konohamaru Sarutobi wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Not for pub matches- when we start being able to choose are fights (and how the corp battles are now), friendly fire is acceptable. Otherwise, trolling would be too big of an issue.
As far as corp battles go, I want to see friendly fire ASAP so the use of orbitals is more tactical. I don't know what "pub matches" means. I ask for friendly fire when you reach "some level", or maybe if you want to play with it. Spamming granades without hurt any friend suit, that's troll too.
Pub matches = public games with randoms, what we have right now. I never want to see friendly fire there. I'm fine with it in corp battles or games we can deploy as a full team into, but no to areas that have randoms in it. I already have to deal with red dots shooting at me, I don't want to have to deal with terrible blue dots who don't know how to not shoot friendlies.
Negative WP isn't a disincentive enough to stop trolls from making you go negative ISK. |
Kaathe
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
41
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Posted - 2013.01.08 02:59:00 -
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Friendly fire will be a good addition to the game.
And if I remember, CCP says that FF will come to the game at some point in it's life.
On release or on another build (which I doubt) it's coming eventually.
"Pub matches" is a term used mostly for "lobby" based FPS games. The thing is this game has no lobby channels or servers. We have contracts given to us by corporations and EVE pilots. We have a persistent world, such as most MMO games.
It may seem like we have pub matches because DUST does not have a full contract system in place yet.
We could have high-sec battles or low-sec battles or corp matches, but pub matches/battles doesn't make sense with this game. |
Sleepy Zan
Internal Error.
Negative-Feedback
2049
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Posted - 2013.01.08 03:07:00 -
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Just turn it on CCP  |
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Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries
Legacy Rising
886
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Posted - 2013.01.08 03:27:00 -
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Friendly fire is a bad idea....I can see it now. One troll in his militia fit killing any proto suit user on purpose, costing him ISK. Or, if a dude wants the hack points. I mean I can go on |
Kaathe
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
41
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Posted - 2013.01.08 03:49:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Friendly fire is a bad idea....I can see it now. One troll in his militia fit killing any proto suit user on purpose, costing him ISK. Or, if a dude wants the hack points. I mean I can go on
Well, you can't prevent that. It's going to happen regardless.
You could pressure the newb and kill him/her/them a bunch of times and it might get the message.
You could pick up your mic and tell them to stop.
No one can kick him/her, we have no lobbies or rooms.
Brace for impact because it's coming SOON! |
Khal V'Rani
Nephilim Initiative
90
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Posted - 2013.01.08 05:58:00 -
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Sleepy Zan wrote:Just turn it on CCP
You are a bad bad man. 
I think there was a similar thread before that suggested levels of FF. None in high sec. or pub matches. 25% in med sec. 50% in low sec. 100% in null sec and factional warfare... Or something like that. I don't remember the specifics. More ideas for the flames anyway... |
Enji Elric
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
Zombie Ninja Space Bears
176
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Posted - 2013.01.08 06:00:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Friendly fire is a bad idea....I can see it now. One troll in his militia fit killing any proto suit user on purpose, costing him ISK. Or, if a dude wants the hack points. I mean I can go on
Had no problem with it on MAG
oh wait... did you play mag when FF was on?
anyways it didnt make the game that much better tbh it just made people who spammed get less points
EDIT: and they kept spamming and didn't learn anything |
Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries
Legacy Rising
886
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Posted - 2013.01.08 13:28:00 -
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Enji Elric wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Friendly fire is a bad idea....I can see it now. One troll in his militia fit killing any proto suit user on purpose, costing him ISK. Or, if a dude wants the hack points. I mean I can go on Had no problem with it on MAG oh wait... did you play mag when FF was on? anyways it didnt make the game that much better tbh it just made people who spammed get less points EDIT: and they kept spamming and didn't learn anything
FF was always on on MAG. They just removed it for knives. But the key differenced is on MAG, a death was just a stat. For Dust, a death means ISK. You had entire clans trolling people on MAG.....the whole game! You had players having fights in the spawn, meaning less people on the field. I can see it now, people seeing PRO suits and killing them thinking it is funny. |
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