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Moonracer2000
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.01.07 15:57:00 -
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It seems like I'm not the only person increasingly entertained by the loved-by-few nova knife. I'm proposing a simple act. Skill into nova knives (minimum what, 12k SP?), make a fit and use them exclusively in Ambush every Monday until the next wipe. Or use elbows. I hear they do comparable damage. Bling it up as much as you want.
Not everyone will do this and some will laugh and think easy kills. So what? I've played as the only knife in match and had fun. I've only gotten one kill in ten plus deaths. KDR doesn't matter in beta. I've used them enough that I feel they could use a broader amount of player feedback.
I will be on later today and I hope to be knifed at least once by you mercs! |
Schazla
WarRavens
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Posted - 2013.01.07 16:15:00 -
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No. Go back to COD. |
Moonracer2000
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.01.07 17:07:00 -
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Schazla wrote:No. Go back to COD.
haha! How much CoD have you actually played? I don't like the series but I just assume 90% of people that actually post like this haven't even given them a try.
And sorry to tell you, but knives are in Dust. We are here to test the game. Very few people use nova knives which means they need our attention. |
Scoot Medic
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.01.07 17:55:00 -
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I might try, I always liked the idea of being able to equip the knife other than slashing, something about it just seems so badass |
Icedslayer
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2013.01.07 20:34:00 -
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I would always run around with my nova knifes and kill people until i spec'd into the B series Scout, that suits hits for 285 stock and add another 40% passive from Hand to hand Skill. i one hit all starter fits, most standard, and some advanced fits. I love this suit |
Icy Tiger
Universal Allies Inc.
1026
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Posted - 2013.01.07 21:09:00 -
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Might want to say hi to Maken Tosh. |
Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
285
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Posted - 2013.01.07 22:35:00 -
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Set up a corp battle with an prior agreement to only use melee. I don't think I need to explain the thrill of seeing 16 mercs in a battle spanning about 50m. |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
1058
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Posted - 2013.01.08 00:12:00 -
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Schazla wrote:No. Go back to COD. It he wanted it to be CoD it would be quickscope monday. |
SoTa PoP
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.01.08 00:30:00 -
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In CoD I spent more time knifing people then gunning. So that's probably why he's telling you to go back - cause in the future I highly doubt knives are nearly as effective. Or melee.
Not that CCP has followed the sci fi commitment through with the technology we have. My helmet is still battling the sun after thousands of years. |
Sleepy Zan
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.01.08 00:32:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:In CoD I spent more time knifing people then gunning. So that's probably why he's telling you to go back - cause in the future I highly doubt knives are nearly as effective. Or melee.
Not that CCP has followed the sci fi commitment through with the technology we have. My helmet is still battling the sun after thousands of years. MW2 commando, marathon, and light weight, with the throwing knife and the tactical knife |
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SoTa PoP
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.01.08 00:34:00 -
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Sleepy Zan wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:In CoD I spent more time knifing people then gunning. So that's probably why he's telling you to go back - cause in the future I highly doubt knives are nearly as effective. Or melee.
Not that CCP has followed the sci fi commitment through with the technology we have. My helmet is still battling the sun after thousands of years. MW2 commando, marathon, and light weight, with the throwing knife and the tactical knife ;)
And one last thing - how does melee kill people at all in this game? I mean - I'm a heavy - aren't I in thick armor? How does a punch hurt me if a shotgun won't even bring me down in one shot?... without mods :)
And how does one punch through a shield that deflects super speeded bullets fired from guns that would harm anyone not in armor who uses it? |
xMarauder
Doomheim
139
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Posted - 2013.01.08 00:39:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:Sleepy Zan wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:In CoD I spent more time knifing people then gunning. So that's probably why he's telling you to go back - cause in the future I highly doubt knives are nearly as effective. Or melee.
Not that CCP has followed the sci fi commitment through with the technology we have. My helmet is still battling the sun after thousands of years. MW2 commando, marathon, and light weight, with the throwing knife and the tactical knife ;) And one last thing - how does melee kill people at all in this game? I mean - I'm a heavy - aren't I in thick armor? How does a punch hurt me if a shotgun won't even bring me down in one shot?... without mods :) Because CCP hates heavies :(
Also because elbows are thrown by super enhanced clones in super armor. A flick from their finger would crush a bone, me thinks. So penetrating through others armor seems logical......? Idk lol |
SoTa PoP
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.01.08 00:40:00 -
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xMarauder wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:Sleepy Zan wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:In CoD I spent more time knifing people then gunning. So that's probably why he's telling you to go back - cause in the future I highly doubt knives are nearly as effective. Or melee.
Not that CCP has followed the sci fi commitment through with the technology we have. My helmet is still battling the sun after thousands of years. MW2 commando, marathon, and light weight, with the throwing knife and the tactical knife ;) And one last thing - how does melee kill people at all in this game? I mean - I'm a heavy - aren't I in thick armor? How does a punch hurt me if a shotgun won't even bring me down in one shot?... without mods :) Because CCP hates heavies :( Also because elbows are thrown by super enhanced clones in super armor. A flick from their finger would crush a bone, me thinks. So penetrating through others armor seems logical......? Idk lol I don't see anything that says the armor increases the physical attribute of the wearer. Just keeps it from harm from it's weapons. |
xMarauder
Doomheim
139
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Posted - 2013.01.08 00:43:00 -
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I see. Then the reason it hurts heavies is because of my first guess...
CCP hates heavies :( |
Moonracer2000
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
311
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Posted - 2013.01.08 02:11:00 -
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Had a good time today. I also died a lot. Surprise! I ran a few ambush and then switched to skirmish since it offers more chances to spawn in while not being immediately shot. Also people are spread out enough there is a greater opportunity to flank. Admittedly put a lot of focus on hacking objectives since you have to be selective of targets.
My thoughts on the Nova Knife so far:
-I think a good use for it is as a training tool. I've found that I am a lot more attentive to my surroundings and selective of targets. I'm getting better (slowly) at reading targets to judge their awareness and likelihood of detecting me before I close in. For those who want to be more objective focused, not having a gun practically eliminates the distraction of deciding to kill or capture.
-The charge time kills me most. I figured out the holding charge while running but only maybe 1/3 of the targets I reached and stabbed died on the first hit. So there is often this stumbling around trying to get another charge and attack while my target is backing up and shooting at me. So If I manage to improve charging and attacking I might actually be okay with the things.
-As far as the theoretical advantage of a silent kill I'm doubtful. I've snuck up on groups and killed one and the others immediately new either through comms or habit of looking around. Most kills that I got away with have been in isolated areas. Snipers make good targets.
-I'm still not sure what I think of the things. They are fun but I'd never use them in a real match. I can't see wasting SP to use them after the next reset. It wouldn't make sense to buff them to the point where they are commonly used. They require more player skill than guns but there is no (in game) reward to counter that extra risk.
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Nova Knife
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
783
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Posted - 2013.01.08 03:35:00 -
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@ Op : The knives are really tough to use until you get at least to the advanced/proto versions. The charge time on the standard version really works against the user and only makes them useful for hunting snipers, mostly.
The advanced has a much faster charge, and the prototype charges almost instantly. Makes them much more usable in direct confrontations.
Still, your biggest enemy (and ally) is the very narrow field of view. You can easily confuse an enemy with a scout suit by sprinting past him and then jumping backwards over him, Or running circles around him. Likewise, it's easy for an enemy to do the same, and direct confrontations usually result in whoever is more aware of their enemy being the victor.
Like someone else said in the thread ; The B series scout's melee is actually MUCH more effective than the knives. I Don't know how long it will be before they hotfix that |
Enji Elric
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Zombie Ninja Space Bears
176
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Posted - 2013.01.08 05:34:00 -
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Got 3 melee kills today with no skills or mods
I had a choice Melee or blow myself and him up with my MD |
Blunt Smkr
Doomheim
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Posted - 2013.01.08 10:40:00 -
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I'm actually getting pretty good with the nova knives especially after i learned how to run while knives are charged it makes it alot easier. Just need to get down aiming with the knive while running that fast i usually over shot my target but im getting better.
The only other problem i have with trying to knive people is the fact they can walk backwards faster then i can walk towards them while knives are charged its so annoying. but Its only a problem when i forget to do that run charge glitch thing. |
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