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Paran Tadec
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.01.05 03:24:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:... God I feel like I'm repeating myself over and over but...
Looks like another person forgot he's a beta tester.
And I don't say that to imply you shouldn't be enjoying your time here - I'm saying that implies that you shouldn't be so emotionally involved in this that you feel the need to create this thread. Not that I don't blame you - just seems ... strange?
No - it is strange. If you cared about the game you wouldn't of made this thread - instead you'd of said CCP's way of doing things is utter garbage and you want to boy-cot the game till they take a closer look at the exact problems you have - which you never mentioned.
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Can I say this is a QQ thread? :D
I've made, maybe, 20 different threads with different suggestions on how to fix and balance certain things. ALl ignored. I know I'm not the only one either. All CCP listens to are the scrubs who need the game put on easy mode. Frustrating to come back each new build and wonder what else has been broken.
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Telcontar Dunedain
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
328
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Posted - 2013.01.05 03:33:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote: All CCP listens to are the scrubs who need the game put on easy mode. Frustrating to come back each new build and wonder what else has been broken.
Pretty much this. |
Icy Tiger
Universal Allies Inc.
1026
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Posted - 2013.01.05 03:35:00 -
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stfu and gtfo. non-factor imperfects talking. let the zitros or the real ones do the talking.... |
Paran Tadec
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.01.05 03:38:00 -
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Icy Tiger wrote:stfu and gtfo. non-factor imperfects talking. let the zitros or the real ones do the talking....
coming from a guy in a nonfactor corp..... |
I-Shayz-I
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
172
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Posted - 2013.01.05 03:39:00 -
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This post needs to be moved to the locker room. |
Icy Tiger
Universal Allies Inc.
1026
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Posted - 2013.01.05 03:42:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:Icy Tiger wrote:stfu and gtfo. non-factor imperfects talking. let the zitros or the real ones do the talking.... coming from a guy in a nonfactor corp..... I thought you left already. Why still here? Also half the guys in my "non-factor" corp are much higher on leaderboards then you. |
Paran Tadec
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
902
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Posted - 2013.01.05 03:43:00 -
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Icy Tiger wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:Icy Tiger wrote:stfu and gtfo. non-factor imperfects talking. let the zitros or the real ones do the talking.... coming from a guy in a nonfactor corp..... I thought you left already. Why still here? Also half the guys in my "non-factor" corp are much higher on leaderboards then you.
KDR doesnt matter for logibros.. |
SoTa PoP
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.01.05 03:44:00 -
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I understand - it's frustrating thinking you have the answers but the other side gets the ear from CCP. I've noticed a lot of Imperfects put down math and facts to back your arguments but the care of militia care bears gets heard instead. We've all seen it - and none of us know what to think tbh. At least I don't. I haven't seen any threads arguing that the core players are being ignored or anything - it's just hard for them to communicate to us with such a jumbled mess of information that we've set in these forums.
Aren't most of your arguments in particular on the AR? I'm not even sure what to think on that subject even after reading all the threads. That subject is a total mess. |
Paran Tadec
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
902
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Posted - 2013.01.05 03:49:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:I understand - it's frustrating thinking you have the answers but the other side gets the ear from CCP. I've noticed a lot of Imperfects put down math and facts to back your arguments but the care of militia care bears gets heard instead. We've all seen it - and none of us know what to think tbh. At least I don't. I haven't seen any threads arguing that the core players are being ignored or anything - it's just hard for them to communicate to us with such a jumbled mess of information that we've set in these forums.
Aren't most of your arguments in particular on the AR? I'm not even sure what to think on that subject even after reading all the threads. That subject is a total mess.
Most of mine have been in regards to vehicles and AV. A lot of people told me the Forge gun wasnt OP, but then why have I been stomping in matches 15-1 with it against infantry only?? I can sit on top of the buildings on Line and farm LAV's and HAV's all match. Doesnt matter though, we'll just throw in a cheap miltia forge, because that'll fix a problem that doesnt exist.... |
Belzeebub Santana
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
409
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Posted - 2013.01.05 03:50:00 -
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Question: Why do you think CCP should listen to you specifically?
We are here to test the game they present to us, we make suggestions, they make changes to what THEY want to change.
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Telcontar Dunedain
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
328
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Posted - 2013.01.05 03:53:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:I understand - it's frustrating thinking you have the answers but the other side gets the ear from CCP. I've noticed a lot of Imperfects put down math and facts to back your arguments but the care of militia care bears gets heard instead. We've all seen it - and none of us know what to think tbh. At least I don't. I haven't seen any threads arguing that the core players are being ignored or anything - it's just hard for them to communicate to us with such a jumbled mess of information that we've set in these forums.
Aren't most of your arguments in particular on the AR? I'm not even sure what to think on that subject even after reading all the threads. That subject is a total mess.
We get distracted by bad trolls sometimes. Happens.
I think the basics are that fighting against more variety of dangerous players is fun. I've never even trained Proto suits fwiw.
I genuinely liked the fact that in the past I had to pay more attention to a geared player. A GOOD assault proto might actually need to be kited like a heavy.
Seeing the black suit meant I had to fight a bit harder. Now it's... just not a big deal.
The ambush maps seem specifically engineered to be teamfire blobfests. Small maps are fun in comms/biomass/skyfire but horribad in the new shrunken ambush maps. The rocket map is ruined imo. The bowl map is just a joke.
It's like CCP is hoping to give bad players a few more kills... |
Icy Tiger
Universal Allies Inc.
1026
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Posted - 2013.01.05 03:58:00 -
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I actually do agree with you a bit, I am getting tired of some of the stuff that's being changed. |
Paran Tadec
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
902
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Posted - 2013.01.05 04:02:00 -
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Belzeebub Santana wrote:Question: Why do you think CCP should listen to you specifically?
We are here to test the game they present to us, we make suggestions, they make changes to what THEY want to change.
And they are balancing with broken matchmaking where protos are allowed to pubstomp militia players, so the noobs come in here and cry nerf. |
Icy Tiger
Universal Allies Inc.
1026
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Posted - 2013.01.05 04:04:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:Belzeebub Santana wrote:Question: Why do you think CCP should listen to you specifically?
We are here to test the game they present to us, we make suggestions, they make changes to what THEY want to change.
And they are balancing with broken matchmaking where protos are allowed to pubstomp militia players, so the noobs come in here and cry nerf.
Which is exactly why the game played much better in the earliest builds where there where tier restrictions. |
Paran Tadec
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
902
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Posted - 2013.01.05 04:06:00 -
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Icy Tiger wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:Belzeebub Santana wrote:Question: Why do you think CCP should listen to you specifically?
We are here to test the game they present to us, we make suggestions, they make changes to what THEY want to change.
And they are balancing with broken matchmaking where protos are allowed to pubstomp militia players, so the noobs come in here and cry nerf. Which is exactly why the game played much better in the earliest builds where there where tier restrictions.
Exactly. |
Telcontar Dunedain
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
328
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Posted - 2013.01.05 04:08:00 -
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Icy Tiger wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:Belzeebub Santana wrote:Question: Why do you think CCP should listen to you specifically?
We are here to test the game they present to us, we make suggestions, they make changes to what THEY want to change.
And they are balancing with broken matchmaking where protos are allowed to pubstomp militia players, so the noobs come in here and cry nerf. Which is exactly why the game played much better in the earliest builds where there where tier restrictions.
And they nerf first the suits and now the weapons just before they are supposedly opening the -real- tier restriction of lowsec?
It's just a big wtf. |
Belzeebub Santana
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
409
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Posted - 2013.01.05 05:30:00 -
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Yes I understand that all of this is making PROTO less admirable. But this has mainly happened in the last build or two. Many have stated their dislike of flattening the gear and weapons but CCP can't correct this in the middle of this build and probably not the next. They have things that they need to implement and test, as it is the system isn't horribly broken and just needs adjusting. But there are bigger fish to fry that are incoming and we don't even know what they are.
I haven't even heard what people want the difference of gear and weapons to be, they just say they should be better but how and by how much?
The game we are playing is not the same one that the DEVS are working on, we are always a build or two behind them. |
fenrir storm
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
314
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Posted - 2013.01.05 08:32:00 -
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Belzeebub Santana wrote:Yes I understand that all of this is making PROTO less admirable. But this has mainly happened in the last build or two. Many have stated their dislike of flattening the gear and weapons but CCP can't correct this in the middle of this build and probably not the next. They have things that they need to implement and test, as it is the system isn't horribly broken and just needs adjusting. .
Sorry to do this but it's been an excuse for the fan boys so why not for the rest of us.
This is BETA , they can change and adjust in the middle , end or start of a build because this is beta. |
Belzeebub Santana
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
409
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Posted - 2013.01.05 08:38:00 -
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They can't really fix anything middle of build just hot fixes. They have to get everything okayed by Sony and that takes months. |
fenrir storm
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
314
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Posted - 2013.01.05 08:40:00 -
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Belzeebub Santana wrote:They can't really fix anything middle of build just hot fixes. They have to get everything okayed by Sony and that takes months.
Then it's not a proper beta is it |
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Telcontar Dunedain
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
328
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Posted - 2013.01.05 08:51:00 -
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Belzeebub Santana wrote:They can't really fix anything middle of build just hot fixes. They have to get everything okayed by Sony and that takes months.
Actually the only things that have to get ok'ed by Sony are the builds the go on your playstation, and thats a few days testing to make sure it doesn't crash.
The weapons and armor are actually stored on the server and can be changed very quickly.
What I'd like are most of the nerfs applied over the last few builds rolled back.
Outside of ohk on infantry swarms most of the balance changes have been for the worse or just fiddling. |
SoTa PoP
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1772
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Posted - 2013.01.07 03:24:00 -
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Much like the imperfect on the Si vs WTF thread - I am bored and enjoy seeing my name on the topic list.
Viva la vodka!~ |
HECATONCHIRES GYGES
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
151
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Posted - 2013.01.07 03:27:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:This post needs to be moved to the locker room.
this
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SoTa PoP
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.01.07 03:31:00 -
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HECATONCHIRES GYGES wrote:I-Shayz-I wrote:This post needs to be moved to the locker room. this sorry but the topic was a general discussion of dust. May of been forgotten now - but it is what it is :) |
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