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Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organisation
Test Friends Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.01.03 23:01:00 -
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CCP, why is a clenched fist or the butt end of a rifle more deadly than a plasma-charged nova knife that can pierce through even heavy armor???
It's rather insulting to see something like that considering how much effort I have placed into nova knives and learning all about them. One of these two will have to be tweaked to balance this out.
You should really fix this problem. I don't know what's the solution to this, but I am trusting that you can figure this out sooner rather than later, CCP. |
Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
285
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Posted - 2013.01.04 01:18:00 -
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I was lucky enough to have an all melee battle once, and the majority of the kills were acheived by melee with a nova knife, rather than the knife itself. I don't think I need to explain why this is nonsense. |
Vyzion Eyri
The Southern Legion
155
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Posted - 2013.01.04 01:51:00 -
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I'd say sprinting shouldn't disable the nova knife charge. There has to be a way to get close to the enemy, fast. If a heavy or assault sees someone running at them with a nova knife they'd pick up the food they abandoned when the game started and eat, shooting and then killing the nova knifer with one hand or perhaps both little fingers if they're having a decent sized hamburger because we're forced to walk up to them.
Because apparently when someone sees a person with charged nova knives strolling up to them with deadly intent, they stand and watch.
If we could sprint and charge, everything changes. The aforementioned food would grow cold and perhaps stale as we chase the heavy or assault across the map, filling the ears with the droning of our charged plasma blades, until their stamina gives way under the relentless pursuit (enhanced by stamina bottles) and we dice them to pieces.
(replace food analogy with magazine containing dubious material // mobile phone with conversation with girlfriend/mum according to preference)
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Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organisation
Test Friends Please Ignore
1594
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Posted - 2013.01.04 02:52:00 -
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@Vyzion
I take it you didn't read Nova Knife's recent thread on the discovery of an exploit regarding nova knives posted in the technical forums. You should read it.
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=49189&find=unread |
Nova Knife
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
789
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Posted - 2013.01.04 08:08:00 -
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Yeah, it's pretty crazy how strong the base melee is, in comparison to the knife itself.
Base melee needs to drop to 90. At hand to hand L5 it'd still be 130 (5 less than current) and with damage mods you could still get it up to 350-460 depending on slot availability. (Much better than the 500-650 or so it is now, which is far more than the nova knives can do in one shot)
On a related note : I've noticed that the hitbox for melee seems to actually change depending on the weapon you are using. With a shotgun anyone on the rightmost third of my screen take no damage at any range, yet people left of that mark die instantly. Yet with a laser rifle this seems to be the opposite. I haven't tested a lot for this, but it's interesting.
Melee overall range does need a bit of a buff though, say maybe 0.2m or 0.5m further out. (Especially knives)
On a slightly related note : It's kind of silly that someone stepping straight backwards can move at a pace that makes them 100% immune to melee by someone running (not sprinting) straight towards them. I'd like to see backwards motion being a bit slower than forwards than it is now! |
Vyzion Eyri
The Southern Legion
155
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Posted - 2013.01.04 10:18:00 -
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Oh, no I did not read this. Interesting. But if this is an exploit, then will it be removed or replaced by a smoother variation of sprinting and charging? |
Nova Knife
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
789
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Posted - 2013.01.04 11:01:00 -
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Replaced by a smoother version. They have planned to have the knives able to sprint & run, they just didn't intend for it to be possible now, because they hadn't finished that.
The bug makes it easy to see that it's a good plan, though. |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organisation
Test Friends Please Ignore
1594
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Posted - 2013.01.04 13:17:00 -
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@Nova Knife
Interesting observation with the melee. You should see if you can get an opposing merc to agree to be your Guinea pig to further test this out. Although communication would be a pain. |
Chosokabe Ite
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
72
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Posted - 2013.01.04 19:09:00 -
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I my opinion, the knives need to have higher melee than standard melee. And killing someone with knives without charging them should count as a nova knife kill instead of a melee kill.
Only issues I can think of for knives |
YourDeadAgain76
Red Star.
133
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Posted - 2013.01.04 20:02:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:CCP, why is a clenched fist or the butt end of a rifle more deadly than a plasma-charged nova knife that can pierce through even heavy armor???
It's rather insulting to see something like that considering how much effort I have placed into nova knives and learning all about them. One of these two will have to be tweaked to balance this out.
You should really fix this problem. I don't know what's the solution to this, but I am trusting that you can figure this out sooner rather than later, CCP.
Nerf the Novaknife and the Meele they are OP. |
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