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James Blaise Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 35	Posted - 2013.01.01 04:04:00 - [1] - Quote Now I used the search and found out that gunships and jet like vehicles will be out post release. I am wondering if the idea of ground based ships can go into orbit and fight with the ships in orbit. Have EVE Online with some little drones or something smaller than a frigate flying around making a bad day for everyone's drones or something. That would be awesome in my opinion and would be a good size comparison for the DUST players. PUNY SHIP TRYING TO KILL ME? BAH! I wonder if they will move stations closer to planets. or have moon PI or have awesome views of space wars while fighting on the ground like in the Immortal trailer or having a Caldari Heavy/Scout/Logistic suits, same for the rest of the races. maybe even weird ones for other factions like bloodied ones for Blood Raiders. (Cant do it without skull helmets for them) or something else.
Sev Alcatraz Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising 185	Posted - 2013.01.01 04:09:00 - [2] - Quote Race specific versions of every suit-soon (tm) Flying into space to make and eve player have a bad day? Plausible but improbable Would take a super computer to run something like that
Th3rdSun L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 323	Posted - 2013.01.01 04:19:00 - [3] - Quote I'm really hoping that there is some sort of training areas that allow you to test out the fighters,because I'm sure that they are going to be pretty expensive. I'm almost thinking that CCP pulls some crap where you have to pay AUR to get access to the training grounds.
DarkShadowFox Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 238	Posted - 2013.01.01 04:35:00 - [4] - Quote Th3rdSun wrote: I'm really hoping that there is some sort of training areas that allow you to test out the fighters,because I'm sure that they are going to be pretty expensive. I'm almost thinking that CCP pulls some crap where you have to pay AUR to get access to the training grounds. prolly.. knowing them..
SickJ French unchained corporation 48	Posted - 2013.01.01 05:06:00 - [5] - Quote James Blaise wrote: That would be awesome in my opinion and would be a good size comparison for the DUST players. PUNY SHIP TRYING TO KILL ME? BAH! I think the smallest player-controlled ships in EVE are about the size of an A380, so the image of a flyswatter comes to mind.
Breakin Stuff Immobile Infantry 680	Posted - 2013.01.01 05:21:00 - [6] - Quote SickJ wrote: James Blaise wrote: That would be awesome in my opinion and would be a good size comparison for the DUST players. PUNY SHIP TRYING TO KILL ME? BAH! I think the smallest player-controlled ships in EVE are about the size of an A380, so the image of a flyswatter comes to mind. more the size of a US navy destroyer iv you include all dimensions, not just long axis
Governor Odius Doomheim 177	Posted - 2013.01.01 05:52:00 - [7] - Quote Sev Alcatraz wrote: Plausible but improbable Not even slightly plausible, dude.
Breakin Stuff Immobile Infantry 680	Posted - 2013.01.01 06:01:00 - [8] - Quote Governor Odius wrote: Sev Alcatraz wrote: Plausible but improbable Not even slightly plausible, dude. plausible if we get to build and fly cyclops bombers and firbolg fighters and such. Unlikely... but plausible.
Octavian Vetiver Dog Nation United Relativity Alliance 152	Posted - 2013.01.01 06:22:00 - [9] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: Governor Odius wrote: Sev Alcatraz wrote: Plausible but improbable Not even slightly plausible, dude. plausible if we get to build and fly cyclops bombers and firbolg fighters and such. Unlikely... but plausible. Not happening, EVE wouldn't be able to support it.
Breakin Stuff Immobile Infantry 680	Posted - 2013.01.01 06:26:00 - [10] - Quote I agree with that assessment. I was disagreeing with the "not even plausible" statement. It's plausible. I just don't see it happening. The two game platformss are waaaaay too damn different. it'd be like playing command and conquer, only to have some nubtart playing X-Wing strafe your tank column. Doesn't work the way they are now.

Sev Alcatraz Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising 185	Posted - 2013.01.01 06:30:00 - [11] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: I agree with that assessment. I was disagreeing with the "not even plausible" statement. It's plausible. I just don't see it happening. The two game platformss are waaaaay too damn different. it'd be like playing command and conquer, only to have some nubtart playing X-Wing strafe your tank column. Doesn't work the way they are now. lol to make this idea work you would need the condor cluster to run Dust and one of the worlds largest super computers to run eve Playstation super computer---> http://www.smartplanet.com/blog/thinking-tech/what-the-dods-playstation-powered-condor-cluster-means-for-the-future-of-supercomputing/5720
aden slayer ZionTCD Legacy Rising 407	Posted - 2013.01.01 06:34:00 - [12] - Quote Word of advice: never call in a jet near noobs. if they take it, that's ISK wasted.
Breakin Stuff Immobile Infantry 680	Posted - 2013.01.01 06:39:00 - [13] - Quote aden slayer wrote: Word of advice: never call in a jet near noobs. if they take it, that's ISK wasted. No sir, you are absolutely WRONG! never call anything near newbs, not even a baloch or onikuma. Don't encourage them to wonder if they can drive your stuff.
aden slayer ZionTCD Legacy Rising 407	Posted - 2013.01.01 06:48:00 - [14] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: aden slayer wrote: Word of advice: never call in a jet near noobs. if they take it, that's ISK wasted. No sir, you are absolutely WRONG! never call anything near newbs, not even a baloch or onikuma. Don't encourage them to wonder if they can drive your stuff. +1
James Blaise Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 35	Posted - 2013.01.01 17:25:00 - [15] - Quote I wonder if the Devs would consider this. PS3 pilots using small ships in space, dog fights and whatnot.
Sobriety Denied Universal Allies Inc. 432	Posted - 2013.01.01 17:41:00 - [16] - Quote well yea that would be awesome but the tech is not there yet.. i have been waiting for that type of game for years, an FPS/spaceship simulator hybrid, i expected it by now but we still got another 10 years until we see a game, online or off, that has a planet in a non instanced spaced- where the 3D world expands out into space instead of an invisible flight ceiling. that 3D space would have to be HUGE, i'm sure there are current tech limitations preventing this. i'm still waiting for this game but i doubt it will happen anytime soon. i think derek smart tried something like this but failed hard with universal battlecruiser or something like that. most fail game ever. it would be nice tho if we could have an asteroid map where you could walk all the way around it that is an actual shape in space instead of a 2D map, that i imagine could be possible they can't let us dogfight vs EVE players because the games are so different, EVE plays like an RTS, so it wouldn't be fair when we won with a different control scheme vs the EVE player who's been playing for years and then suddenly has to put up with us using twitch skill vs them, wouldnt be fair to them., it would take a whole new game
Octavian Vetiver Dog Nation United Relativity Alliance 152	Posted - 2013.01.01 18:49:00 - [17] - Quote Wouldn't matter if they did attempt it. No server system in the world would never handle stuffing a 2000-3000 plus players in ships that are zipping around and maneuvering through a 250km spherical chunk of space. Even if it was just the fighters and Dust or even EVE players for that matter the server could not support it. There is not a single game out that there is a flight sim or space fighter sim type game that can support more then 64 people on one server. Not a single one. Games that have instanced areas don't count because that just moves those players into a server of their own basically for the fighting.
XXfootnoteXX ZionTCD Legacy Rising 76	Posted - 2013.01.01 18:59:00 - [18] - Quote Sev Alcatraz wrote: Race specific versions of every suit-soon (tm) I would like that. It would help with the faction warfare.
RolyatDerTeufel D3ath D3alers RISE of LEGION 1648	Posted - 2013.01.01 19:13:00 - [19] - Quote I would love to see a bomber "jet" for dust. have to wait awhile to get another payload so you can't just drop bombs forever.
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2866	Posted - 2013.01.01 19:29:00 - [20] - Quote As it stands now you dont want to go into orbit to fight eve online ships. With time dilation (this kicks in and slows the entire eve side game down where there is a crap tonn of ships on one screen like 3k+) and locking and ship managamenet controls eve online pilots have; any joy sticker pilot up there would be at an extraordinary disadvantage. Similar to ever non-capsuleer pilots barely stand a chance against capsuleers currently. You certainly do NOT want to board a capsuleer's ship. Few reasons, First being that a pilot can simply lock onto you and fire with impunity, at distance you're done for because how fast you can force a gun to track you at 120kms away isn't that much even at max known speeds. So chances are they're going to slam a shell though your little fighter. Ships in Eve are quite capable of DIE Fast, it is far more effecient to have eve ships killing eve ships. As for the trying to take control of a large pod controlled ships such as a titan which is about 18kms long (think one of our old zoomed out maps, but about 5x longer) complete with internal self defense with reckless abandon to the crew casualties ( in other words opening every door and airlock is not out of the question, nor is turing off the reactor radiation shielding.) and when titans can melt in under 5 minutes that's barely enough time to setup a match. Just about every other smaller class of ships in New Eden have been known to been "instant' gibbed. In large fleet fights. Its only a matter of time before titan itself hits that status as well. In the end its always more economical to destroy the ship in question and build a new one on your side to replace it. Than to try to capture a ship, hire a bunch of mercs, and waste alot of tame and resources repairing the said ship and its modules. Its even more economical to destroy a friendly ship being boarded and claim insurance. much larger ships in the game can unload modules into a cargo bay and eject them as well to save them if they wanted to.

James Blaise Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 35	Posted - 2013.01.02 00:33:00 - [21] - Quote I guess what I really want is something that really appreciate the size of the ships. The CQ does a poor job of it since smaller ships are placed closer than larger ships. Maybe just give us an internal blueprints of one frigate or destroyer? Perhaps even able to walk around inside the ships? I know walking in station is placed on hold for now but I would not mind having a party inside my CQ with friends and setting off some party poppers. It is an idea and technology is not exactly the same as it was 20, 10, 1 or even a few months ago. I hope it is a possibility that the Devs are considering though. I wish there was a list of possibilities the devs posted online, I know about the MTACs, Jetpacks and gunships but I would like a link to the site or something like that. I also wish they would stop using Soon(TM) for everything >.>
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2866	Posted - 2013.01.02 01:06:00 - [22] - Quote You know what I would love to see? A ground side shipyard with actual eve ships being built in them.
Washlee UnReaL. 131	Posted - 2013.01.02 01:09:00 - [23] - Quote The fighter jet is going to be a Light Aerial vehicle. A single manned ship. Probably going to have light turrets more like a battlefield feel to it. Theres some gameplay on youtube of the jet fighter I don't remember which video.
James Blaise Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 35	Posted - 2013.01.02 02:15:00 - [24] - Quote Washlee wrote: The fighter jet is going to be a Light Aerial vehicle. A single manned ship. Probably going to have light turrets more like a battlefield feel to it. Theres some gameplay on youtube of the jet fighter I don't remember which video. I think this is the one everyone been talking about Atmospheric Flight I wonder what happened to the project?
Nu11u5 Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 73	Posted - 2013.01.02 14:59:00 - [25] - Quote James Blaise wrote: I think this is the one everyone been talking about Atmospheric Flight I wonder what happened to the project? What was shown was just a joke that was taken too far and shown at the first FanFest. You really couldn't even call it a tech demo as I think they just put a large ground-terrain-shaped object in space and flew around it.


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