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Gunner Visari
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.12.26 20:07:00 -
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Endurance Increase 5% stamina per level
Vigor 5% Increase max stamina and recovery rate per level..
The only thing that makes sense to me about Endurace is the increase in 5% stamina is that it reduces the rate at which stamina meter decreases when running but not jumping while the Vigor increases how much i have avaialble to use and at the rate at which it recovers, can anyone confirm this. |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.12.27 01:43:00 -
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I thought the Vigor skill book only gives the bonus to recovery? |
Gunner Visari
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.12.27 02:16:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:I thought the Vigor skill book only gives the bonus to recovery?
Acorrding to the description it is max stamina and recovery rate. |
Free Healing
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.12.27 03:10:00 -
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while i have not tested this. I was around when Endurance raised max Stamina and Vigor only raised Stamina Recovery. During the new build i was told that they merged Endurance and Vigor into the same skills but was surprised to see that they were still separate skills. I have a couple "Untested" theories about this. The most likely being that both Endurance and Vigor both raise your Max Stamina by 5% with Vigor also giving a bonus to Stamina Recovery rate.
There is actually another two skills that both have the same effect so this wouldn't be the first time two skills shared an effect.
(The other two are Profile Dampening and Dropsuit Command.)
Keep the faith. |
Gunner Visari
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
163
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Posted - 2012.12.27 19:13:00 -
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Yea thanks for the reply, im just going to create an alt today in my third slot and purchase one lvl of endurance and see if it changes the max stamina, or if it changes the sprint duration. |
Cross Atu
Conspiratus Immortalis
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Posted - 2012.12.27 19:30:00 -
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The biotic modules have been merged but the individual skills remain. To the best of my knowledge the skills are going to stay as is, however their descriptions/functions with regards to unlocking mods need to be cleaned up because they went from each having a separate dedicated mod to having a single shared one.
As to their effects aside from unlocking, one gives +5% to your total stamina pool, the other gives +5%to your rate of stamina recover. Both offer a solid +25% total boost and level 5 and become even more effective when used together.
Cheers, Cross |
Gunner Visari
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
163
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Posted - 2012.12.27 20:17:00 -
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Appreciate the post cross, but the issue we're discussing is that vigor states it gives 5% to max stamina and recovery rate. While Endurance states it gives a 5% increase to stamina per level. What we are trying to figure out is if vigor does both and endurance will then add another 5% increase to stamina(description doesnt say max like with vigor, just stamina) per level so in essense you could get a 50% bump to max stamina by skilling both, or does endurance simply reduce the level at which stamina depletes which is only effected by sprinting but not jumping or other.
Or is that the descriptions havent been cleaned up and endurance is supposed to raise max stamina and vigor is only supposed to raise recovery rate and the description is incorrect.
Edit--Okay so i tested an alt character, Endurance does indeed increase max stamina, I'll report back after i get enough ISK to purchase vigor skill book and see if it effects recovery rate only or if it also adds to stamina along with recovery rate.
Edit-Vigor does indeed increase both max stamina and recovery rate, however the max stamina increase is not 5% and seems to have diminishing increases
here are the numbers skill 1 endurance 150-->157.5 skill 1 vigor 157.5-->165.?? and recovery rate to 15.75 skill 2 endurance 165.??-->172.25 skill 2 vigor 172.25-->180.?? and recovery rate 16.5 skill 3 vigor 189.75 and recovery rate 17.25
unfortunately i hit the back button on my browser and lost the hard numbers for the increases that vigor had, but one thing i did notice with the increase in max stamina from vigor had a few decimal points decrease in the total value increase with each level and the increases from endurance had a minor decimal increase from the base 7.5 value increase it should be.
Case in point, I have 5 levels of increases in stamina b/w endurannce and vigor but instead of 150-->187.5(25% of 150=37.5) i have 189.75. Anyway it seems that the increases from endurance are bugged and stacking the same way weapon dmg mods do like how i get 1.21 from stacking two complex mods which even without penalty should give 1.20.
This should probably be reported to the devs so they can tweak it, if it is intended then i highly recommend skilling into vigor entirely first as this will increase the base value upon which endurance seems to be basing its 5% bump from. |
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