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Free Beers
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2012.12.19 01:12:00 -
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DarkShadowFox wrote:G-SLicK wrote:[quote=DarkShadowFox]Im happy they put Iron sights on the AR's and took away peoples precious scopes, you all need to get some REAL skill and learn to aim and not have a precious dominating sniper weapon that covers all tactical situations. REAL AR's don't shoot as far as sniper rifles,
in this game for some reason they do.
I am in my 1080 minutes now up to 1134 update so IDK what its gonna be like when I go in, until I use them, than will I ***** and moan(if their actually un-useable) but for now Iron Sights are they way to go and make people earn scopes.
People shouldn't just be given things. Standardizing guns like this also forces people to play more effectively and actually learn some real skill and not camp (since i've been reading that they are now close quarters to mid range, like REAL AR OMG )
So now that dust514 has gone a sensable route and taken out everyone's win button, added recoil and made the game actually take some skill to fire a weapon, now everyone suddenly dosent like it. But you got what you asked for, so you should
HTFU, Adapt or Die and get some SKILL.
If you don't like this game, don't play. Until you make your own game or become a dev, stop complaining as much and play the game, your a beta TESTER not a BETA DEVELOPER. Feedback is one thing, complaining about something that just came inst necessary.
Play the game for a while, get used to it, ????, ISK PROFIT.
who da **** are you? dont anyone talk about skill in your a nobody
Great! This is where i would ask about your no name **** corp but i can't be bothered |
Paran Tadec
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
902
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Posted - 2012.12.19 01:17:00 -
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DarkShadowFox wrote:G-SLicK wrote:DarkShadowFox wrote:Im happy they put Iron sights on the AR's and took away peoples precious scopes, you all need to get some REAL skill and learn to aim and not have a precious dominating sniper weapon that covers all tactical situations. REAL AR's don't shoot as far as sniper rifles,
in this game for some reason they do.
I am in my 1080 minutes now up to 1134 update so IDK what its gonna be like when I go in, until I use them, than will I ***** and moan(if their actually un-useable) but for now Iron Sights are they way to go and make people earn scopes.
People shouldn't just be given things. Standardizing guns like this also forces people to play more effectively and actually learn some real skill and not camp (since i've been reading that they are now close quarters to mid range, like REAL AR OMG )
So now that dust514 has gone a sensable route and taken out everyone's win button, added recoil and made the game actually take some skill to fire a weapon, now everyone suddenly dosent like it. But you got what you asked for, so you should
HTFU, Adapt or Die and get some SKILL.
If you don't like this game, don't play. Until you make your own game or become a dev, stop complaining as much and play the game, your a beta TESTER not a BETA DEVELOPER. Feedback is one thing, complaining about something that just came inst necessary.
Play the game for a while, get used to it, ????, ISK PROFIT.
who da **** are you? dont anyone talk about skill in your a nobody hows your 1% elitist corp, scrub?
Still awaiting our tourny awards... |
Exmaple Core
UnReaL.
135
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Posted - 2012.12.19 01:34:00 -
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APOPHIS Xxx wrote:Example you run a heavy that uses a hmg. Wow, lot of skill using that! LOL Get out of the heavy and talk your nonsense! Oh, and that hmg.
acutally yes, heavy does require skill to use. Your a slow huge target with a short and hardly mid range spam cannon who cant catch anyone, when one death on standard gear can run you 20 to 75 thousand isk. Yeah, ive never touched my A series dropsuit and theres pelenty of assults with more sheilds as me, a high end heavy, and twice my speed and the perfect (underlines perfect) assult rifle before this update. Man, i ran around most of the time with a standard, nothing spescial machine gun and i had the skill to climb up to the number 5 postition on the leaderbords. Imagine if i used a Duval this whole time, id be so much more powerful. And nah, im not saying there is no skill in using an AR. Yeah it was a crazy weapon, but people like G-Slick, The Zitros, and anyone but you had skill in them and they never needed that gun to be great. But you, like G-Slick would say are a nobody. Dont bother me with your nonscence, i mustve killed you everytime i saw you on the battlefeild to call me out like that and i dont even know who you are. Get lost |
DarkShadowFox
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
238
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Posted - 2012.12.19 01:47:00 -
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Free Beers wrote:DarkShadowFox wrote:G-SLicK wrote:[quote=DarkShadowFox]Im happy they put Iron sights on the AR's and took away peoples precious scopes, you all need to get some REAL skill and learn to aim and not have a precious dominating sniper weapon that covers all tactical situations. REAL AR's don't shoot as far as sniper rifles,
in this game for some reason they do.
I am in my 1080 minutes now up to 1134 update so IDK what its gonna be like when I go in, until I use them, than will I ***** and moan(if their actually un-useable) but for now Iron Sights are they way to go and make people earn scopes.
People shouldn't just be given things. Standardizing guns like this also forces people to play more effectively and actually learn some real skill and not camp (since i've been reading that they are now close quarters to mid range, like REAL AR OMG )
So now that dust514 has gone a sensable route and taken out everyone's win button, added recoil and made the game actually take some skill to fire a weapon, now everyone suddenly dosent like it. But you got what you asked for, so you should
HTFU, Adapt or Die and get some SKILL.
If you don't like this game, don't play. Until you make your own game or become a dev, stop complaining as much and play the game, your a beta TESTER not a BETA DEVELOPER. Feedback is one thing, complaining about something that just came inst necessary.
Play the game for a while, get used to it, ????, ISK PROFIT.
who da **** are you? dont anyone talk about skill in your a nobody Great! This is where i would ask about your no name **** corp but i can't be bothered
Names? I couldn't be bothered, I just use mine as a bank account. Im not here to make a name for myself, im here to play, flashy corps and exorbant amounts of money dosent make me happy in the end. So If you cant be bothered not my problem, carry on.
As for letting people continue onwards with the orginal post, do keep talking.
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DarkShadowFox
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
238
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Posted - 2012.12.19 01:50:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:DarkShadowFox wrote:G-SLicK wrote:DarkShadowFox wrote:Im happy they put Iron sights on the AR's and took away peoples precious scopes, you all need to get some REAL skill and learn to aim and not have a precious dominating sniper weapon that covers all tactical situations. REAL AR's don't shoot as far as sniper rifles,
in this game for some reason they do.
I am in my 1080 minutes now up to 1134 update so IDK what its gonna be like when I go in, until I use them, than will I ***** and moan(if their actually un-useable) but for now Iron Sights are they way to go and make people earn scopes.
People shouldn't just be given things. Standardizing guns like this also forces people to play more effectively and actually learn some real skill and not camp (since i've been reading that they are now close quarters to mid range, like REAL AR OMG )
So now that dust514 has gone a sensable route and taken out everyone's win button, added recoil and made the game actually take some skill to fire a weapon, now everyone suddenly dosent like it. But you got what you asked for, so you should
HTFU, Adapt or Die and get some SKILL.
If you don't like this game, don't play. Until you make your own game or become a dev, stop complaining as much and play the game, your a beta TESTER not a BETA DEVELOPER. Feedback is one thing, complaining about something that just came inst necessary.
Play the game for a while, get used to it, ????, ISK PROFIT.
who da **** are you? dont anyone talk about skill in your a nobody hows your 1% elitist corp, scrub? Still awaiting our tourny awards...
your probably not going to get them until the game comes out, I wouldn't wait CCP has other things to deal with besides why waste your tourney awards in the beta? Wouldnt you want your goodies when the game actually comes out.
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SoTa PoP
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1772
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Posted - 2012.12.19 01:53:00 -
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Stop stupid fighting for your epeens, no one cares, take it to skype if you want to compare the size of your motherboards closely.
One pro of this build I like is how utterly reckless AR users have become. They get in closer now rather then adjusting yourself to suit a need - cause if you get in close to a fattie, even with militia we'll kill ya <3
Con - Being a fattie using an AR has become a pain. lol |
karin gaton
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
14
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Posted - 2012.12.19 02:18:00 -
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G-SLicK wrote:no **** no you people were just too garbage to learn how to use your class right, they ****** AR to hell this build was a total fail. gimme my scope back for christ sake. everyone who complained about AR should get some skill and stfu. Mass drivers are the new god weapons now, you all are turning this game into a complete waste of time...smh
when you quit can i have your stuff? secondly HTFU or die. |
karin gaton
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
14
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Posted - 2012.12.19 02:32:00 -
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Berserker007 wrote: yeah, no offense example, but u run a heavy so this hasn't affected you at all. Considering AR's had recoil added; which seemed to me what all non-AR user wanted, they got that; but now that u remove the scope which helped more then just aim; but identify if people are within effective range (and %) along with suit; it has become a hassle and turned the game into prolonged CoD battles of CQB gameplay.
As i said on my topic; there is no longer a mid-range combat situation. Many players are getting shafted in having to put SP into lasers or massive SP into sidearm SS for smg's for that ability or get torn up by hmg's, shotty, smg, MD in CQB situations. The whole role of an AR has more or less been nullified by removing the ability to perform mid-range combat
Lol berserker what drugs are you on can i get some? your tears have been enjoyable to drink but the weight of the reality is blaster AR's preform decently at mid range. Everyone got what they asked for and now you want to regift? man your such a grinch. |
Isaa Quade
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
107
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Posted - 2012.12.19 02:40:00 -
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+1 OP. Time the AR babies actually need to get good with their chosen weapon. |
Super Cargo
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
428
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Posted - 2012.12.19 02:42:00 -
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I'm better with the AR in this build than I was in previous builds. AR whores can suck a fat one.
Ironsights all day |
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Tectonious Falcon
The Southern Legion
395
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Posted - 2012.12.19 02:43:00 -
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I used to run with either a normal HMG or an AR on my fattie. Now I run a burst HMG, as the other 2 aren't as effective anymore.
Also running a heavy suit takes more skill than people think. I guarantee that if everyone in the beta started using them, most people would get stomped- there's more to being a fattie than standing still and spraying bullets |
Exmaple Core
UnReaL.
135
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Posted - 2012.12.19 02:56:00 -
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Tectonious Falcon wrote:I used to run with either a normal HMG or an AR on my fattie. Now I run a burst HMG, as the other 2 aren't as effective anymore.
Also running a heavy suit takes more skill than people think. I guarantee that if everyone in the beta started using them, most people would get stomped- there's more to being a fattie than standing still and spraying bullets
You got it. Its not as easy as other people think. Im not saying its particulary challenging, but there are more disadvantages to the heavy compared to the other class, and the AR made our life hell because we simply couldent reach them and they could. Some heavys were getting beat at point blank by them too, it was crazy. |
Paran Tadec
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
902
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Posted - 2012.12.19 19:39:00 -
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DarkShadowFox wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:DarkShadowFox wrote:G-SLicK wrote:DarkShadowFox wrote:Im happy they put Iron sights on the AR's and took away peoples precious scopes, you all need to get some REAL skill and learn to aim and not have a precious dominating sniper weapon that covers all tactical situations. REAL AR's don't shoot as far as sniper rifles,
in this game for some reason they do.
I am in my 1080 minutes now up to 1134 update so IDK what its gonna be like when I go in, until I use them, than will I ***** and moan(if their actually un-useable) but for now Iron Sights are they way to go and make people earn scopes.
People shouldn't just be given things. Standardizing guns like this also forces people to play more effectively and actually learn some real skill and not camp (since i've been reading that they are now close quarters to mid range, like REAL AR OMG )
So now that dust514 has gone a sensable route and taken out everyone's win button, added recoil and made the game actually take some skill to fire a weapon, now everyone suddenly dosent like it. But you got what you asked for, so you should
HTFU, Adapt or Die and get some SKILL.
If you don't like this game, don't play. Until you make your own game or become a dev, stop complaining as much and play the game, your a beta TESTER not a BETA DEVELOPER. Feedback is one thing, complaining about something that just came inst necessary.
Play the game for a while, get used to it, ????, ISK PROFIT.
who da **** are you? dont anyone talk about skill in your a nobody hows your 1% elitist corp, scrub? Still awaiting our tourny awards... your probably not going to get them until the game comes out, I wouldn't wait CCP has other things to deal with besides why waste your tourney awards in the beta? Wouldnt you want your goodies when the game actually comes out.
To rub it in your faces? They get reimbursed once the game goes live anyways. Think I would spend AUR on **** in a beta if I didn't get it back?
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Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
1591
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Posted - 2012.12.19 19:45:00 -
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Pfft screw guns. I got my knife. |
Erictheheartless
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.12.19 19:57:00 -
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Exmaple Core wrote:Everyones bitching about their prescious cameria mode, 100% accurate, all around effective AR weapon being fair now. It was the PERFECT weapon on the battlefeild, able to drop a heavy in only a few shots at point blank or long range. Hell, it dident matter if someone got the drop on you. If you had an AR and they dident, you won. Simple as that. You dident need anything else, the AR was the best weapon for any and all situations, you were unstopable. Wow that thing was broken, its about time that THING was bugged down. How long did you think a weapon like that would last? Perfect doesent exist, at least not anymore. Move on folks, learn how to use an AR on a more balanced system or dont use it. Ethire way, i cant wait for some CQC. Enjoy your irion sights :) you need to put some sp into your spelling skillbook |
semperfi1999
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
317
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Posted - 2012.12.19 20:34:00 -
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DarkShadowFox wrote:Im happy they put Iron sights on the AR's and took away peoples precious scopes, you all need to get some REAL skill and learn to aim and not have a precious dominating sniper weapon that covers all tactical situations. REAL AR's don't shoot as far as sniper rifles,
in this game for some reason they do.
I am in my 1080 minutes now up to 1134 update so IDK what its gonna be like when I go in, until I use them, than will I ***** and moan(if their actually un-useable) but for now Iron Sights are they way to go and make people earn scopes.
People shouldn't just be given things. Standardizing guns like this also forces people to play more effectively and actually learn some real skill and not camp (since i've been reading that they are now close quarters to mid range, like REAL AR OMG )
So now that dust514 has gone a sensable route and taken out everyone's win button, added recoil and made the game actually take some skill to fire a weapon, now everyone suddenly dosent like it. But you got what you asked for, so you should
HTFU, Adapt or Die and get some SKILL.
If you don't like this game, don't play. Until you make your own game or become a dev, stop complaining as much and play the game, your a beta TESTER not a BETA DEVELOPER. Feedback is one thing, complaining about something that just came inst necessary.
Play the game for a while, get used to it, ????, ISK PROFIT.
Actually you do realize that ARs are accurate and have an effective range of ~500 yards right? Yes this is 5 football fields. Just blatantly stating that ARs dont have good range is ret@rded. ARs in this game dont have anything close to the same range as a sniper so I can definitely tell you are exaggerating badly in your post. Any good AR user agreed that recoil needed to be added. And last I checked there isnt any AR user that I would respect that has an issue with the recoil that has been added. The problem is that they took away the ARs ability to fight in its effective range (according the the games effective range for the ARs). ARs cant even fight in midrange with the normal AR due to how bad the iron sights are. What this means is either ARs users are going to go MD/Laser/SMG routes or they will be using the burst AR (since it still has its scope).
The other issue is a problem with balancing standard vs adv vs proto. I am sorry that I think there should be a marked difference in proto vs standard. Right now some people are claiming range is the difference but since ARs cant aim in there effective range due to the iron sights this basically means only Proto bursts will be used since a proto AR will be a waste of money compared to the free Exile AR. |
BigussDikkuss
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
42
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Posted - 2012.12.19 21:39:00 -
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Cross Atu wrote:Agreed and +1 the law of New Eden is Adapt or Die.
There is another option.
Say "Screw you guys, Dust 514 and CCP. I'm going home."
In that scenario, Dust dies and CCP adapts to a lower work force. |
Finn Kempers
BetaMax.
222
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Posted - 2012.12.19 21:45:00 -
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Berserker007 wrote:Exmaple Core wrote:Everyones bitching about their prescious cameria mode, 100% accurate, all around effective AR weapon being fair now. It was the PERFECT weapon on the battlefeild, able to drop a heavy in only a few shots at point blank or long range. Hell, it dident matter if someone got the drop on you. If you had an AR and they dident, you won. Simple as that. You dident need anything else, the AR was the best weapon for any and all situations, you were unstopable. Wow that thing was broken, its about time that THING was bugged down. How long did you think a weapon like that would last? Perfect doesent exist, at least not anymore. Move on folks, learn how to use an AR on a more balanced system or dont use it. Ethire way, i cant wait for some CQC. Enjoy your irion sights :) yeah, no offense example, but u run a heavy so this hasn't affected you at all. Considering AR's had recoil added; which seemed to me what all non-AR user wanted, they got that; but now that u remove the scope which helped more then just aim; but identify if people are within effective range (and %) along with suit; it has become a hassle and turned the game into prolonged CoD battles of CQB gameplay. As i said on my topic; there is no longer a mid-range combat situation. Many players are getting shafted in having to put SP into lasers or massive SP into sidearm SS for smg's for that ability or get torn up by hmg's, shotty, smg, MD in CQB situations. The whole role of an AR has more or less been nullified by removing the ability to perform mid-range combat The tac and burst still have camera sight... |
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