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        |  JcSevi
 Doomheim
 
 13
 
 
      | Posted - 2012.12.18 20:41:00 -
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 Hello. I wonder if after upgrade in future updates chromosome we set our assault rifle with different view as optics, reflex, red dot, etc. ... I think an important factor of the game to customize our weapon because now they are all equal. Thank you.
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        |  TiMeSpLiT--TeR
 Planetary Response Organisation
 Test Friends Please Ignore
 
 326
 
 
      | Posted - 2012.12.18 20:44:00 -
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 JcSevi wrote:Hello. I wonder if after upgrade in future updates chromosome we set our assault rifle with different view as optics, reflex, red dot, etc. ... I think an important factor of the game to customize our weapon because now they are all equal. Thank you. 
 They did mentioned that. Just wait for it.
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        |  JcSevi
 Doomheim
 
 13
 
 
      | Posted - 2012.12.18 20:47:00 -
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 Thank you very much. It is less, to wait for the next update I hope will be in January 2013. Greetings.
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        |  JcSevi
 Doomheim
 
 13
 
 
      | Posted - 2012.12.29 20:59:00 -
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 Please. With the look of the new assault rifle I see nothing, I'm afraid I'll have to stop playing until you get the order to assault rifles. Will it be in January? Thank you.
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        |  Psychotic Shooter
 Opus Arcana
 Orion Empire
 
 23
 
 
      | Posted - 2012.12.29 21:02:00 -
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 Assault rifles are a close to mid range weapon and the sights are quite reasonable
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        |  Re-FLeX
 Internal Error.
 Negative-Feedback
 
 152
 
 
      | Posted - 2012.12.30 00:50:00 -
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 Quote:Optical viewfinders, reflex etc. .. in rifles assault??. 
 Yes?....
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        |  JcSevi
 Doomheim
 
 13
 
 
      | Posted - 2012.12.30 15:21:00 -
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 Thank you. The last 4 responses have not helped me much but I have understood that future updates will insert different scopes for assault rifles and also change the look of whichever assault rifles as they carry are all equal now. What gustaira me know if this will be soon.
 Greetings.
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        |  GM Hercules
 Game Masters
 C C P Alliance
 
 335
 
 
  
 
      | Posted - 2012.12.30 15:37:00 -
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 Guys, if you want to help others providing answers, then please be respectful and constructively, otherwise don't reply with short answers or misinformation.
 
 Thank you for your cooperation.
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        |  Forlorn Destrier
 ZionTCD
 Legacy Rising
 
 914
 
 
      | Posted - 2012.12.30 15:47:00 -
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 CCP has not stated when this be added only that it is on the roadmap.
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        |  xprotoman23
 Internal Error.
 Negative-Feedback
 
 1452
 
 
      | Posted - 2012.12.30 16:27:00 -
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 weapon customization has no place in this game. Weapon customization has actually ruined most games. Especially games where skillpoints already act as variables for weapons.
 
 CCP simply needs to offer "scoped" and "non scoped" options for guns.
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        |  Exmaple Core
 UnReaL.
 
 135
 
 
      | Posted - 2012.12.30 17:28:00 -
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 Re-FLeX wrote:Quote:Optical viewfinders, reflex etc. .. in rifles assault??. Yes?.... 
 Lolol :) +1
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        |  tribal wyvern
 ZionTCD
 Legacy Rising
 
 673
 
 
      | Posted - 2012.12.30 17:59:00 -
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 JcSevi wrote:Hello. I wonder if after upgrade in future updates chromosome we set our assault rifle with different view as optics, reflex, red dot, etc. ... I think an important factor of the game to customize our weapon because now they are all equal. Thank you. 
 Those of you who are requesting such items are trying to turn dust into bf3. You want the cover system of rainbow six Vegas, the third person view of gears of war, the weapon customization of bf3 and the armor customization of world of f*****g Warcraft!!
 Can't you people just leave dust alone and accept it for being different? I liked the fact there were no ironsights (before the chuckleheads wanted ironsights), I like the fact that almost all dropsuits look the same in each class (this is a war, not a friggin scene from zoolander).
 Leave it as it is! Leave the skill system ALONE, leave the dropsuits ALONE, leave the weapons ALONE!
 If you want customization then go play modern duty: call of battlefield.
 The hardcore mercs of new eden do not want this game ruined.
 
 P.s, referring to the statement I quoted, weapons being 'equal' is what the guns are NOW, slap different scopes in the game and watch it become unbalanced.
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        |  Mavado V Noriega
 SyNergy Gaming
 
 2282
 
 
      | Posted - 2012.12.30 18:10:00 -
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 tribal wyvern wrote:JcSevi wrote:Hello. I wonder if after upgrade in future updates chromosome we set our assault rifle with different view as optics, reflex, red dot, etc. ... I think an important factor of the game to customize our weapon because now they are all equal. Thank you. Those of you who are requesting such items are trying to turn dust into bf3. You want the cover system of rainbow six Vegas, the third person view of gears of war, the weapon customization of bf3 and the armor customization of world of f*****g Warcraft!! Can't you people just leave dust alone and accept it for being different? I liked the fact there were no ironsights (before the chuckleheads wanted ironsights), I like the fact that almost all dropsuits look the same in each class (this is a war, not a friggin scene from zoolander). Leave it as it is! Leave the skill system ALONE, leave the dropsuits ALONE, leave the weapons ALONE! If you want customization then go play modern duty: call of battlefield. The hardcore mercs of new eden do not want this game ruined. P.s, referring to the statement I quoted, weapons being 'equal' is what the guns are NOW, slap different scopes in the game and watch it become unbalanced. 
 cover system and 3rd person were ridiculous requests tho lol
 weapon customization is a standard request
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        |  tribal wyvern
 ZionTCD
 Legacy Rising
 
 673
 
 
      | Posted - 2012.12.30 18:18:00 -
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 Mavado V Noriega wrote:tribal wyvern wrote:JcSevi wrote:Hello. I wonder if after upgrade in future updates chromosome we set our assault rifle with different view as optics, reflex, red dot, etc. ... I think an important factor of the game to customize our weapon because now they are all equal. Thank you. Those of you who are requesting such items are trying to turn dust into bf3. You want the cover system of rainbow six Vegas, the third person view of gears of war, the weapon customization of bf3 and the armor customization of world of f*****g Warcraft!! Can't you people just leave dust alone and accept it for being different? I liked the fact there were no ironsights (before the chuckleheads wanted ironsights), I like the fact that almost all dropsuits look the same in each class (this is a war, not a friggin scene from zoolander). Leave it as it is! Leave the skill system ALONE, leave the dropsuits ALONE, leave the weapons ALONE! If you want customization then go play modern duty: call of battlefield. The hardcore mercs of new eden do not want this game ruined. P.s, referring to the statement I quoted, weapons being 'equal' is what the guns are NOW, slap different scopes in the game and watch it become unbalanced. cover system and 3rd person were ridiculous requests tho lol weapon customization is a standard request 
 I know dude, but every fps has weapon customization (COD, BF3, R6, MOH, even third person titles like GRFS, GRAW 1+2)..........and dust is on a nice route by not following the typical fps. All guns are balanced in terms of scopes right now, which is how it should be
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        |  Fargen Icehole
 SyNergy Gaming
 
 67
 
 
      | Posted - 2012.12.30 19:15:00 -
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 xprotoman23 wrote:weapon customization has no place in this game. Weapon customization has actually ruined most games. Especially games where skillpoints already act as variables for weapons. 
 CCP simply needs to offer "scoped" and "non scoped" options for guns.
 
 I have to agree with this. WIth all the customization of skills and gear, the only thing we need is the option to add different optics to our guns. No need for in-depth stuff like foregrips, heavy barrels, extended mags ,etc. (most of that stuff is taken care of with AR skills, sharpshooter skills, weapon capacity skills, etc)
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        |  Corbina Ninja
 Maphia Clan Corporation
 CRONOS.
 
 77
 
 
      | Posted - 2012.12.30 19:24:00 -
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 Weapon mods? no without drawbacks...
 do you want more range? ok you will have less ROF for example... etc etc....
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        |  J'Jor Da'Wg
 KILL-EM-QUICK
 RISE of LEGION
 
 648
 
 
      | Posted - 2012.12.30 19:33:00 -
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 So you guys want LESS control over what you have on your gun?
 
 Lolwut?
 
 I like having the option to make a gun mine. There is a large difference between SP benefits and rigging a gun to behave differently.
 
 If it is correctly balanced, with different drawbacks and benefits to each, then I see no reason why it shouldn't be inserted in the game.
 
 Weapon customization is there in almost every game because its a good idea for the most part.
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        |  Lance 2ballzStrong
 SyNergy Gaming
 
 639
 
 
      | Posted - 2012.12.30 19:42:00 -
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 Corbina Ninja wrote:Weapon mods? no without drawbacks... do you want more range? ok you will have less ROF for example... etc etc....   
 not sure if serious...
 
 You want a drawback for sing a reflex site? I must have missed something because having a standard reflex site is nothing new to FPS that has an ADS function.
 
 Personally i hated the color of the scope. The blue disappears, maybe I'm a little color blind, but I would like the option to change the color of the scope/dot/reflex/holo.
 
 The option SHOULD be there, and if people want to use a site, give options. If people want to feel hardcore or w/e, don't use any site. I can't comprehend the fight against having a reflex site on AR's, or any gun for that matter...
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        |  Victor 'LifeLine' Ramous
 SyNergy Gaming
 
 242
 
 
      | Posted - 2012.12.30 19:43:00 -
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 J'Jor Da'Wg wrote:So you guys want LESS control over what you have on your gun?
 Lolwut?
 
 I like having the option to make a gun mine. There is a large difference between SP benefits and rigging a gun to behave differently.
 
 If it is correctly balanced, with different drawbacks and benefits to each, then I see no reason why it shouldn't be inserted in the game.
 
 Weapon customization is there in almost every game because its a good idea for the most part.
 
 
 Agreed, one thing to be against an OP mod, another thing to be against -choice- and -options- which is what the idea of customization is all about.
 
 Also opposing customization on the sole basis that CoD and BF offer customization isn't logical. That is just born out of a silly bias, the reason why you may not like those games is not because it has customization, your just against customization because its associated with a game you do not like.
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        |  lordjanuz
 Norwegian Dust514 Corporation
 
 88
 
 
      | Posted - 2012.12.30 20:19:00 -
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 Scope will come either way, customization or not, a futuristic game with futuristic rifles must have scopes.
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        |  JcSevi
 Doomheim
 
 13
 
 
      | Posted - 2012.12.31 00:26:00 -
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 I have not ever played COD or BF3. Game two years player ago MAG and this game just does not have much choice, has three assault rifles and two are enough viewers. By own problems I do not see well and need some type reflex viewfinder, optical, red dot, etc. .. I do not ask them to change the game and also had understood that this was already decided and was going to leave soon and my question was when. Thanks to all who are responding and following the thread. Greetings.
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        |  Khulam Alkon
 Zumari Force Projection
 Caldari State
 
 46
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.01.07 04:38:00 -
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 Having a choice of optics does NOT unbalance the weapons. They are purely cosmetic within their magnifications. If CCP was truly worried about balance>customization then they wouldn't have introduced KBM support. Which, for PC players like me, gives a huge boon and I typically end up in the top end of matches due to this (thought not always of course).
 
 
 There is NO reason to neglect customizable optics....at all....ever.....for all time....
 
 If they don't already intend to do this before release then we should make sure it happens.
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        |  H4lfdog
 KILL-EM-QUICK
 RISE of LEGION
 
 14
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.01.07 16:16:00 -
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 Customization should have a lil drawback. Like 1PG for a red dot, 15CPU and 5PG for a heat tracking module that lock on target.
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        |  polarzus
 ZionTCD
 Legacy Rising
 
 19
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.01.07 18:54:00 -
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 H4lfdog wrote:Customization should have a lil drawback. Like 1PG for a red dot, 15CPU and 5PG for a heat tracking module that lock on target. 
 Would make sense. But you could avoid this by just creating rifles with fixed scopes and different PG/CPU needs.
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        |  Zarr Du'kar
 Doomheim
 
 6
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.01.08 00:42:00 -
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 Best way for CCP to make a profit out of it is merely make all types of scope/reticle into aurum BPO per WEAPON. That way a merc who buys a Reflex sight for the AR merely has a dropdown menu in the loadout to use such sight permanently on every AR he uses but has to buy another sight BPO for the HMG and so on.
 
 CCP earns money from AUR purchases, Players gets to use the sights they want with no additional costs to CPU/PG. Everybody wins.
 
 Putting a CPU cost in it may be viable but not PG or at most 1-2 PG max while the CPU cost should only go up as high as 10-15 depending on how good the scope is in terms of zoom but other than that there shouldnt be any CPU/PG since the skills you levelled up basically covers the passive skills for weapon use such as faster reload, sharpshooter and ammo capacity.
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        |  Washlee
 UnReaL.
 
 131
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.01.08 00:47:00 -
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 There will multiple attachments
 
 Confirmed : Scope , Grenade Launchers
 
 Unconfirmed : Extended Mags
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        |  Konohamaru Sarutobi
 Ahrendee Mercenaries
 Legacy Rising
 
 91
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.01.08 00:56:00 -
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 tribal wyvern wrote:JcSevi wrote:Hello. I wonder if after upgrade in future updates chromosome we set our assault rifle with different view as optics, reflex, red dot, etc. ... I think an important factor of the game to customize our weapon because now they are all equal. Thank you. Those of you who are requesting such items are trying to turn dust into bf3. You want the cover system of rainbow six Vegas, the third person view of gears of war, the weapon customization of bf3 and the armor customization of world of f*****g Warcraft!! Can't you people just leave dust alone and accept it for being different? I liked the fact there were no ironsights (before the chuckleheads wanted ironsights), I like the fact that almost all dropsuits look the same in each class (this is a war, not a friggin scene from zoolander). Leave it as it is! Leave the skill system ALONE, leave the dropsuits ALONE, leave the weapons ALONE! If you want customization then go play modern duty: call of battlefield. The hardcore mercs of new eden do not want this game ruined. P.s, referring to the statement I quoted, weapons being 'equal' is what the guns are NOW, slap different scopes in the game and watch it become unbalanced. 
 They are testers like you. Leave them alone with their opinions. They just say what they think will be better for the game. Of course CCP developers have the "final word", but that's the point of this forum (I think), write opinions, thoughts. If CCP don't want to read more "threads", they will just close this. It's just a beta, you can write anything that you feel playing the game.
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        |  DrunkardBastards
 Inebriated Liberation Front
 
 23
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.01.08 03:20:00 -
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 H4lfdog wrote:Customization should have a lil drawback. Like 1PG for a red dot, 15CPU and 5PG for a heat tracking module that lock on target. 
 
 call me crazy, but why not give the weapons a PG and CPU of there own?
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        |  mikegunnz
 Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
 RISE of LEGION
 
 425
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.01.08 03:32:00 -
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 It's already been said by others, but I'll repeat.
 I don't see much weapon customization other than optics. Why?
 Normally, weapon mods are part of how you customize gun characteristics. We already have mods in this game, most are built into the SP skills. AR operation, Sharpshooter skills, Rapid Reload skills, etc.
 Those are all taking the place of mods that would go on your gun in other games. (foregrip for stability, heavy barrel for longer distance shooting, double-taped magazines for faster reloading, etc)
 
 The few remaining modifications that would actually go on the gun, would be optics and perhaps undermount launchers.
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        |  PalaceGuard
 CrimeWave Syndicate
 
 15
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.01.08 04:16:00 -
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 Fargen Icehole wrote:No need for in-depth stuff like foregrips, heavy barrels, extended mags ,etc. (most of that stuff is taken care of with AR skills, sharpshooter skills, weapon capacity skills, etc)
 
 right on point. +1
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        |  Sgt Kirk
 ZionTCD
 Legacy Rising
 
 347
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.01.08 04:17:00 -
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        |  polarzus
 ZionTCD
 Legacy Rising
 
 19
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.01.08 13:12:00 -
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 lordjanuz wrote:Scope will come either way, customization or not, a futuristic game with futuristic rifles must have scopes. 
 Scopes are an absolutely must-have. Not sure if it really makes sense if you can customize your rifle beside the usual sklii modifications.
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