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Pete B Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 13	Posted - 2012.12.10 18:19:00 - [1] - Quote If I am lucky enough to be spawned into a fresh game, I am almost always put into the **** team because I am not in a game with my corp squad, like the other team. I spawn, and once in game, I am hit with an immense amount of lag, to the point that that its nearly 5FPS. This lasts for the first minute of the game. I call out a Soma because I didn't spend my skill points on learning how to switch a tank on, but would rather spend on Logi equipment which still uses a silly amount of ISK and Skill Points. It drops, and I get in along with my squad/team I drive out of cover, or near the objective, and despite there being nearly no one about, the Soma explodes when someone out of nowhere hits me with a forge gun that seems to charge in 2 seconds flat. I would get 5 kills with my Soma at the most before someone destroys it with a forge gun. (Seriously though, the forge gun is way too overpowered along with the rocket launcher. Make the forge gun shut the vehicle down for 30 seconds, or switch off its shields). I would then become a medic with a shotgun, although I get nothing for repairing people, get a small amount for reviving, and the shotgun cant shoot past 2 meters, so I have to soot them point blank to get the kill, and even then, because of the stupid amount of lag, my shots don't count half the time. The above would happen over and over again, with being spawn killed a few times being added, getting (pretty much) insta killed by people with better equipment, and a ludicrous amount of lag being added to the pot. And by the end of it, I get 5,000 Skill Points and 90,000 ISK. I'm not even exaggerating which makes it even worse
JW v Weingarten SyNergy Gaming 300	Posted - 2012.12.10 18:31:00 - [2] - Quote lol that is what happens with cheap militia tanks that are bad fitted. just get a better tank. and why use a shotgun as a logi? you need to stay at a range and support your team, i would suggest using a tar.
Eternal Technique Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 281	Posted - 2012.12.10 18:35:00 - [3] - Quote What you described in terms of forge guns shutting down tanks is EWAR. It will be added eventually, but a forge gun is meant to blow **** up.
NAV HIV The Generals 151	Posted - 2012.12.10 18:42:00 - [4] - Quote Forge guns are the only things keeping all the HAV drivers in line. Even though i hate them, but i like the way they are. Makes tanking more challenging. Swarms are good too, but not as deadly as a forge gunner ambushing you. (If you cant runaway or kill the Forge gunner in time, then thats that...) Logi can be great if you follow the frago.Teamate had 2000+ WP with a logi suite.
Mavado V Noriega SyNergy Gaming 2282	Posted - 2012.12.10 19:36:00 - [5] - Quote NAV HIV wrote: Forge guns are the only things keeping all the HAV drivers in line. Even though i hate them, but i like the way they are. Makes tanking more challenging. Swarms are good too, but not as deadly as a forge gunner ambushing you. (If you cant runaway or kill the Forge gunner in time, then thats that...) Logi can be great if you follow the frago.Teamate had 2000+ WP with a logi suite. swarms are way more dangerous to lolarmortanks than fgs tbh there is no hiding from swarms
Henrik Isimazu Terran Legacy 0	Posted - 2012.12.10 19:46:00 - [6] - Quote My typical game, spawn in empty mag into ground missing everything I aim for :P I do suck at console fps lol. Still an interesting game and when ever i join a corp with folks I like i do think it will be tons of fun.
ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 108	Posted - 2012.12.10 21:17:00 - [7] - Quote You decided to make a logi, someone who is to support the team and SURVIVE long enough to do so, and fit him with a shotgun? A weapon meant for up-close, balls to the walls, clonar-a-clonar combat? You expected a relatively inexpensive Soma to dominate? One that you probably aren't fitting with anything special or increasing skills in? The rest of it sounds like bad luck with a side of exaggeration. Almost always on the **** side? The lag happens to everyone when first jumping into a game, but I don't think i've ever had it last a whole minute, but you have this happen consistently. I've had ludicrous lag in the middle of a game, like the A.I. is stuttering and skipping words in everything, but it's so rare that I don't even worry about it. I've had times when using a shotgun assault fitting where people seem to eat my shots, but it's exceedingly rare. Either your seriously unlucky or your missing some of your shots. Just take a step back and really think about your strategies. That'd probably solve a lot of the problems you seem to have, unless you really suffer from insane lag. Still, you'll be getting much more ISK/SP per match.
MassiveNine Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION 100	Posted - 2012.12.10 22:18:00 - [8] - Quote Lots of butthurt QQ going on up in here.
Tony Calif Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 2002	Posted - 2012.12.10 22:53:00 - [9] - Quote If you have AUR, get all the militia BPO (blue background) vehicle modules. My tanks don't always survive a round, but a little advice on that. DON'T BRING YOUR TANK IN RIGHT AWAY. you have a Soma, as do I. They are great tanks for their cost. But a serious 400k-3mil ISK tank will smoke you. Especially a rail tank. So play Logi first, maybe drop a safe spawn at the edge of a map so you can call your tank later. If your tank is on the field for less time, the enemy not only has less time to react, you have a better ability to judge if your tank is worth bringing in. I just use them for fun mostly, but I've used them effectively in corp battle too.
Scheneighnay McBob Bojo's School of the Trades 1058	Posted - 2012.12.10 22:54:00 - [10] - Quote Now, has your tank ever been destroyed by a small railgun (from a dropship or LAV). No? Didn't think so. Standard forge guns do the same damage in 1 shot as a prototype small rail does in a 3 shot burst.

Sobriety Denied Universal Allies Inc. 432	Posted - 2012.12.10 23:07:00 - [11] - Quote yea the shotgun//logi is kinda unorthadox, you should go massdriver/Logi becuase the mass driver allows you to add a valuable component to the squad and they already should value a Logi so combined with the mass driver which is an uncommon waepon, and it's good to have diversity of weapons in the squad, the mass driver adds alot of suppression and can do that from far back out of the hell storm which is for heavies and assault, plus mass driver allows you to not take the brunt of the attack, TLDR: shotgun is very frontline weapon, mass driver is like artillery..
NAV HIV The Generals 151	Posted - 2012.12.11 13:26:00 - [12] - Quote Mavado V Noriega wrote: NAV HIV wrote: Forge guns are the only things keeping all the HAV drivers in line. Even though i hate them, but i like the way they are. Makes tanking more challenging. Swarms are good too, but not as deadly as a forge gunner ambushing you. (If you cant runaway or kill the Forge gunner in time, then thats that...) Logi can be great if you follow the frago.Teamate had 2000+ WP with a logi suite. swarms are way more dangerous to lolarmortanks than fgs tbh there is no hiding from swarms I know that first hand !!! (Armor tanker )
Bhor Derri Legion of Eden 95	Posted - 2012.12.11 14:28:00 - [13] - Quote More Armor love + I use a cheap sica when I don't need to call in my Madrugar :D
Obama DAT Doomheim 389	Posted - 2012.12.11 14:57:00 - [14] - Quote I use an proto forge gun and it barely scratches a well fitted shield tank. I honestly don't know what else I can do to combat Tank 514.
NAV HIV The Generals 151	Posted - 2012.12.11 15:25:00 - [15] - Quote Obama DAT wrote: I use an proto forge gun and it barely scratches a well fitted shield tank. I honestly don't know what else I can do to combat Tank 514. My corpmate uses a DAU or something with the flux grenades. It works preety well. Saw him take out two sagaris in the same day with the help of some swarms. Though we ambushed the tanks both times, didnt go head to head.
Ven Detis Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 0	Posted - 2012.12.11 15:29:00 - [16] - Quote Yes agree that we need some sort of anti shield AV options as we have free swarm launchers that are very mean against armor and follows you behind cover
Sir Meode Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 317	Posted - 2012.12.11 15:35:00 - [17] - Quote NAV HIV wrote: Obama DAT wrote: I use an proto forge gun and it barely scratches a well fitted shield tank. I honestly don't know what else I can do to combat Tank 514. My corpmate uses a DAU or something with the flux grenades. It works preety well. Saw him take out two sagaris in the same day with the help of some swarms. Though we ambushed the tanks both times, didnt go head to head. Highlighted the thing most people forget about when tackling a well fitted HAV, to the OP, do what Tony said very wise words


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