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Icy Tiger
Universal Allies Inc.
1026
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Posted - 2012.12.10 01:28:00 -
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Only problem is recoil and that will be fixed by next build. I'm expecting Vanilla AR's to have moderate amounts, Burst to have a bit more, Breach to have less, and Tactical to have a lot. Or just reduce Tactical ROF. |
G-SLicK
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
185
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Posted - 2012.12.10 01:51:00 -
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ARs have no problem |
Berserker007
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
206
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Posted - 2012.12.10 01:57:00 -
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nvm |
Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising
886
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Posted - 2012.12.10 02:21:00 -
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This game will blow if they give the guns considerable recoil. The recoil they have now is fine. |
Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
384
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Posted - 2012.12.10 02:22:00 -
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When will whiners realize (non excessive) recoil doesn't affect good players? |
G-SLicK
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
185
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Posted - 2012.12.10 02:26:00 -
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recoil + very large maps= horrible game....when will everyone start looking at the big picture this game is trying to paint |
Icy Tiger
Universal Allies Inc.
1026
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Posted - 2012.12.10 03:29:00 -
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Well, I'm sorry to say this to all you "pro" AR players, but recoil is coming. Planetside handles it great, and like Vermaak said, the good players won't even notice. Also, there is barely any recoil in the game. I get more recoil in CoD than this. |
Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising
886
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Posted - 2012.12.10 03:36:00 -
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Icy Tiger wrote:Well, I'm sorry to say this to all you "pro" AR players, but recoil is coming. Planetside handles it great, and like Vermaak said, the good players won't even notice. Also, there is barely any recoil in the game. I get more recoil in CoD than this.
COD & Planetside are different games than Dust entirely. We have to try and stop comparing these two games as a community. Not to mention, that Dust guns are totally different than the guns in those 2 games.
When you see a GEK or Duvolle in a game with considerable recoil than we can talk about it. Even in MAG, there was little recoil (annd they named the guns differently) and the game was fine. I really don't understand players' obsession with recoil. |
Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising
886
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Posted - 2012.12.10 03:37:00 -
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G-SLicK wrote:recoil + very large maps= horrible game....when will everyone start looking at the big picture this game is trying to paint
Thank you.... |
Omnipotens Zitro
Doomheim
425
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Posted - 2012.12.10 03:48:00 -
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Icy Tiger wrote:Well, I'm sorry to say this to all you "pro" AR players, but recoil is coming. Planetside handles it great, and like Vermaak said, the good players won't even notice. Also, there is barely any recoil in the game. I get more recoil in CoD than this.
LMFAO so you want the scrubs to get even worst at this game? You really want all the "PRO" that much more godly?
Just look at how many players suck at aiming as is! Your bright idea with a bunch of idiots is to add in recoil. Thinking it will level the playing field, yet you guys will achieve the exact opposite.
That's f'in brilliant!! Just make it that much easier for us "PRO's" to wreck kids even harder. |
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Dissonant Zan
157
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Posted - 2012.12.10 03:50:00 -
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It doesn't need alot of recoil, it only needs to gradually jump off target while firing so you at least have to work to keep the recticle on the enemy. Right now, when in ads, ARs work like laser rifle which doesn't seem quite right to me.
Bottom line though if CCP already added recoil for next build they are probably not going to change their minds this close to the next update. |
Elijah Sol' Dzusaki
Onward Defrosted Tuna Team
485
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Posted - 2012.12.10 03:51:00 -
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Omnipotens Zitro wrote:Icy Tiger wrote:Well, I'm sorry to say this to all you "pro" AR players, but recoil is coming. Planetside handles it great, and like Vermaak said, the good players won't even notice. Also, there is barely any recoil in the game. I get more recoil in CoD than this. LMFAO so you want the scrubs to get even worst at this game? You really want all the "PRO" that much more godly? Just look at how many players suck at aiming as is! Your bright idea with a bunch of idiots is to add in recoil. Thinking it will level the playing field, yet you guys will achieve the exact opposite. That's f'in brilliant!! Just make it that much easier for us "PRO's" to wreck kids even harder.
I would think the playing field would even out in open beta and Launch when there are more FPS players playing. |
STB Vermaak Doe
558
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Posted - 2012.12.10 03:53:00 -
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While we're on the issue of rifles and low recoil, I've skilled this character specifically to show that even the tac sniper is a spam fest with it's nigh non existing recoil |
Zekain Kade
BetaMax.
931
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Posted - 2012.12.10 03:58:00 -
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Remove all guns, lets fight with our fists. |
Chinduko
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
19
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Posted - 2012.12.10 04:00:00 -
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There is absolutely nothing wrong with AR's. They are absolutely perfect with no drawbacks. It's the other Dust weapons that have way too many drawbacks leaving few reasons to use anything other than the AR. |
Elijah Sol' Dzusaki
Onward Defrosted Tuna Team
485
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Posted - 2012.12.10 04:02:00 -
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Zekain Kade wrote:Remove all guns, lets fight with our fists.
Swords, maces, and hammers. |
Zekain Kade
BetaMax.
931
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Posted - 2012.12.10 04:05:00 -
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Perhaps TAC ARs could do with a bit of a ROF nerf.
I'M JUST SAYIN |
Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
384
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Posted - 2012.12.10 04:05:00 -
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Elijah Sol' Dzusaki wrote:Zekain Kade wrote:Remove all guns, lets fight with our fists. Swords, maces, and hammers. NOVA KNIFE WARZ!!! |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax.
1216
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Posted - 2012.12.10 04:11:00 -
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G-SLicK wrote:ARs have no problem You're high. I played against you today, and that laser accurate Duvolle was dropping people all over the map. Part of why I started rolling ELM-7 with two Complex damage mods. |
G-SLicK
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
185
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Posted - 2012.12.10 04:34:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:G-SLicK wrote:ARs have no problem You're high. I played against you today, and that laser accurate Duvolle was dropping people all over the map. Part of why I started rolling ELM-7 with two Complex damage mods.
it takes skills to drop people all over the map, plus since the duvolle has such low ammo capacity i cant be god-like with it like i am with the duvolle tact. also the tacts should not have their RoF lowered i do just fine with my trigger finger........ lessons anyone? call 1-800-GET-GOOD lol certain people knew that was coming |
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Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
384
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Posted - 2012.12.10 05:00:00 -
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G-SLicK wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:G-SLicK wrote:ARs have no problem You're high. I played against you today, and that laser accurate Duvolle was dropping people all over the map. Part of why I started rolling ELM-7 with two Complex damage mods. it takes skills to drop people all over the map, plus since the duvolle has such low ammo capacity i cant be god-like with it like i am with the duvolle tact. also the tacts should not have their RoF lowered i do just fine with my trigger finger........ lessons anyone? call 1-800-GET-GOOD lol certain people knew that was coming Stop, just stop. We all know only one imperfect is good at trolling and you're not him |
G-SLicK
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
185
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Posted - 2012.12.10 05:02:00 -
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Vermaak Doe wrote:G-SLicK wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:G-SLicK wrote:ARs have no problem You're high. I played against you today, and that laser accurate Duvolle was dropping people all over the map. Part of why I started rolling ELM-7 with two Complex damage mods. it takes skills to drop people all over the map, plus since the duvolle has such low ammo capacity i cant be god-like with it like i am with the duvolle tact. also the tacts should not have their RoF lowered i do just fine with my trigger finger........ lessons anyone? call 1-800-GET-GOOD lol certain people knew that was coming Stop, just stop. We all know only one imperfect is good at trolling and you're not him
it was more of an inside joke :/ |
Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
384
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Posted - 2012.12.10 05:09:00 -
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G-SLicK wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:G-SLicK wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:G-SLicK wrote:ARs have no problem You're high. I played against you today, and that laser accurate Duvolle was dropping people all over the map. Part of why I started rolling ELM-7 with two Complex damage mods. it takes skills to drop people all over the map, plus since the duvolle has such low ammo capacity i cant be god-like with it like i am with the duvolle tact. also the tacts should not have their RoF lowered i do just fine with my trigger finger........ lessons anyone? call 1-800-GET-GOOD lol certain people knew that was coming Stop, just stop. We all know only one imperfect is good at trolling and you're not him it was more of an inside joke :/ No doubt it was worth a chuckle even though I don't know the insider part. How could you let a low quality joke out when you have regnum in your corp? All you need to contact him at [email protected] and I can assure you'll get better at trolling |
RECON BY FIRE
BetaMax.
51
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Posted - 2012.12.10 05:15:00 -
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Tac rifles need their ROF lowered cause of the players who arent good enough to fire fast with their fingers and have to get a modded controller to win. |
G-SLicK
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
185
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Posted - 2012.12.10 05:25:00 -
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i use my fingers (she likes it too) and i fire just as fast as a modded comtroller |
Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
384
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Posted - 2012.12.10 05:29:00 -
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G-SLicK wrote:i use my fingers (she likes it too) and i fire just as fast as a modded comtroller Same here and I know you read my last post, I could never prove it but I know
BTW don't check your closet... |
G-SLicK
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
185
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Posted - 2012.12.10 05:43:00 -
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oh sorry i didnt finish reading your post was there something important? lol
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Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
384
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Posted - 2012.12.10 05:44:00 -
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Sure you didn't |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax.
1216
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Posted - 2012.12.10 05:54:00 -
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G-SLicK wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:G-SLicK wrote:ARs have no problem You're high. I played against you today, and that laser accurate Duvolle was dropping people all over the map. Part of why I started rolling ELM-7 with two Complex damage mods. it takes skills to drop people all over the map, plus since the duvolle has such low ammo capacity i cant be god-like with it like i am with the duvolle tact. also the tacts should not have their RoF lowered i do just fine with my trigger finger........ lessons anyone? call 1-800-GET-GOOD lol certain people knew that was coming I'm fine with RoF across the board, but being able to get as good of accuracy at full auto as we can right now kind of removes the need to use any other weapon.
ARs in Dust are like the Drake in EVE. The Drake has never been OP. It's just good at far too many things. ARs are your jack-of-all-trades weapons, and should be, but a fact of engineering is that all multi-role machines perform each of those roles less well than a specialized machine would. |
fred orpaul
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
211
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Posted - 2012.12.10 06:44:00 -
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Vermaak Doe wrote:When will whiners realize (non excessive) recoil doesn't affect good players?
if they only add vertical recoil yes you are right thats why there needs to be some random lateral kick as well.
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DUST Fiend
Immobile Infantry
1900
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Posted - 2012.12.10 06:59:00 -
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G-SLicK wrote:ARs have no problem
Aside from the fact that they're insanely easy to use and have virtually no drawbacks to speak of. |
G-SLicK
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
185
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Posted - 2012.12.10 07:17:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:G-SLicK wrote:ARs have no problem Aside from the fact that they're insanely easy to use and have virtually no drawbacks to speak of.
ARs are supposed to be like that, and it takes skill to be efficient with them |
Icy Tiger
Universal Allies Inc.
1026
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Posted - 2012.12.10 21:20:00 -
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G-SLicK wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:G-SLicK wrote:ARs have no problem Aside from the fact that they're insanely easy to use and have virtually no drawbacks to speak of. ARs are supposed to be like that, and it takes skill to be efficient with them
Bull ****. They take no skill to be efficient with, it's ridiculously easy to just head glitch and "snipe" people. All it takes is a duvolle to start going 20+-0. |
GIZMO2606
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
293
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Posted - 2012.12.10 21:21:00 -
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Add recoil and increase the bullet spread over range. Problem fixed. |
Icy Tiger
Universal Allies Inc.
1026
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Posted - 2012.12.10 22:40:00 -
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Again, this isn't a suggestion or feedback, like it or not, recoil is coming, it was only omitted due to a bug this build. Sorry if you don't like it. |
Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising
886
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Posted - 2012.12.10 22:42:00 -
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GIZMO2606 wrote:Add recoil and increase the bullet spread over range. Problem fixed.
Don't increase the recoil.....will kill long distance game |
Khulam Alkon
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
46
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Posted - 2012.12.10 22:44:00 -
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I'm a KBM player, so recoil is inconsequential to me, but what about people who are using a controller or a move? Wouldn't countering recoil with a thumb stick be an unnecessary pain? And wouldn't having to counter recoil on a move cause issues with where the controller is pointed vs where its shooting? |
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