DUST Search - {Request} Assists for others using your vehicles

Garrett Blacknova wrote:

CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote:

a rather simple fix to this would be as follows:

WP awarded for repairing PLAYERS, NOT VEHICLES.

Think about it. repairing vehicles shouldnt be given any additional WP, you are simply saving someone money (ISK) and allowing them to get more WP. Kills from vehicles already provide significant more WP than infantry kills on average.

Healing players is an absolute necessity for good team-based matches, and it simply isnt fair that the 'medic' gets nothing to show for it.

I can recall numerous matches where we have 4 players in our squad, 1 being a logi and the sole reason we not only won but dominated the match was due to the logi constantly healing our teammates... 3 of us are top 3, the logi is 9th or 10th as he spent less time killing and more time healing...

Just saying this is an imbalance that needs to be corrected

Player jumps of ledge, takes damage. Teammate uses Repair Tool. Repeat for infinite WP, just like before. Simple fix doesn't fix anything, just changes tactics.

And repairing infantry doesn't really do anything, except save the person some ISK and allow them to get more WP. By the logic you used, you shouldn't be rewarded for repairing infantry any more than you should be for repairing a vehicle.

Either way, you're doing the same thing - it's just a matter of scale. BOTH are services which help the team, and BOTH should be rewarded.

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Ssensei Nakagawa The Exemplars 16	Posted - 2012.12.02 23:48:00 - [1] - Quote When someone uses your resource i.e. Tank, LAV, Dropship I think you should get WP for there action; you are the reason they got the kill in the first place. This would also help you feel less crappy when the go off and steal your vehicle. I assume that the command role will have something like this for their part, so why not also have it individually for the time you die before using a vehicle or someone steals it (same team).
Jason Pearson Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 742	Posted - 2012.12.02 23:56:00 - [2] - Quote Should probably use the Search Function, it's a handy tool. WP for Repairing was disabled due to people ramming vehicles into walls, jumping out and repairing them. It'll be removed until next build (which should come along some time this month). For now, use your Repair Tool sparsely as it will not net you any WP.
Ssensei Nakagawa The Exemplars 16	Posted - 2012.12.03 08:17:00 - [3] - Quote +1
CHICAGOCUBS4EVER TeamPlayers 117	Posted - 2012.12.03 17:09:00 - [4] - Quote a rather simple fix to this would be as follows: WP awarded for repairing PLAYERS, NOT VEHICLES. Think about it. repairing vehicles shouldnt be given any additional WP, you are simply saving someone money (ISK) and allowing them to get more WP. Kills from vehicles already provide significant more WP than infantry kills on average. Healing players is an absolute necessity for good team-based matches, and it simply isnt fair that the 'medic' gets nothing to show for it. I can recall numerous matches where we have 4 players in our squad, 1 being a logi and the sole reason we not only won but dominated the match was due to the logi constantly healing our teammates... 3 of us are top 3, the logi is 9th or 10th as he spent less time killing and more time healing... Just saying this is an imbalance that needs to be corrected
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 1849	Posted - 2012.12.03 17:58:00 - [5] - Quote CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote: a rather simple fix to this would be as follows: WP awarded for repairing PLAYERS, NOT VEHICLES. Think about it. repairing vehicles shouldnt be given any additional WP, you are simply saving someone money (ISK) and allowing them to get more WP. Kills from vehicles already provide significant more WP than infantry kills on average. Healing players is an absolute necessity for good team-based matches, and it simply isnt fair that the 'medic' gets nothing to show for it. I can recall numerous matches where we have 4 players in our squad, 1 being a logi and the sole reason we not only won but dominated the match was due to the logi constantly healing our teammates... 3 of us are top 3, the logi is 9th or 10th as he spent less time killing and more time healing... Just saying this is an imbalance that needs to be corrected Player jumps of ledge, takes damage. Teammate uses Repair Tool. Repeat for infinite WP, just like before. Simple fix doesn't fix anything, just changes tactics. And repairing infantry doesn't really do anything, except save the person some ISK and allow them to get more WP. By the logic you used, you shouldn't be rewarded for repairing infantry any more than you should be for repairing a vehicle. Either way, you're doing the same thing - it's just a matter of scale. BOTH are services which help the team, and BOTH should be rewarded.
Ssensei Nakagawa The Exemplars 16	Posted - 2012.12.06 16:21:00 - [6] - Quote +1
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 140	Posted - 2012.12.06 18:36:00 - [7] - Quote Garrett Blacknova wrote: CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote: a rather simple fix to this would be as follows: WP awarded for repairing PLAYERS, NOT VEHICLES. Think about it. repairing vehicles shouldnt be given any additional WP, you are simply saving someone money (ISK) and allowing them to get more WP. Kills from vehicles already provide significant more WP than infantry kills on average. Healing players is an absolute necessity for good team-based matches, and it simply isnt fair that the 'medic' gets nothing to show for it. I can recall numerous matches where we have 4 players in our squad, 1 being a logi and the sole reason we not only won but dominated the match was due to the logi constantly healing our teammates... 3 of us are top 3, the logi is 9th or 10th as he spent less time killing and more time healing... Just saying this is an imbalance that needs to be corrected Player jumps of ledge, takes damage. Teammate uses Repair Tool. Repeat for infinite WP, just like before. Simple fix doesn't fix anything, just changes tactics. And repairing infantry doesn't really do anything, except save the person some ISK and allow them to get more WP. By the logic you used, you shouldn't be rewarded for repairing infantry any more than you should be for repairing a vehicle. Either way, you're doing the same thing - it's just a matter of scale. BOTH are services which help the team, and BOTH should be rewarded. perhaps only getting wp for reparing damage done by hostiles would be a good idea?
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 3064	Posted - 2012.12.06 19:17:00 - [8] - Quote I want this
Ssensei Nakagawa The Exemplars 16	Posted - 2012.12.13 19:43:00 - [9] - Quote So as far as getting assists for "stolen" vehicles, what are the problems making this happen? It seems to me to be a logical step.
Ten-Sidhe Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 414	Posted - 2012.12.13 20:02:00 - [10] - Quote Op didn't mention repairing. The assists for somebody using vehicle seem reasonable. +1 The repair farming is suppose to be fixed next build, so repairing gives sp without being farm-able. Hope it works, I miss people with repair guns, but not the orbital spam.

KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 3064	Posted - 2012.12.16 02:39:00 - [11] - Quote Would be great, I still want this.
G Torq ALTA B2O 88	Posted - 2012.12.16 21:10:00 - [12] - Quote Ten-Sidhe wrote: Op didn't mention repairing. The assists for somebody using vehicle seem reasonable. +1 The repair farming is suppose to be fixed next build, so repairing gives sp without being farm-able. Hope it works, I miss people with repair guns, but not the orbital spam. Came back briefly, after getting a bit bored with Dust (and getting Borderlands II..) - I still carry my Militia Repair Tool, and will still try to repair anyone I see that needs it (blues only, though). Any news on when and how Repairing will be worthwhile again?
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 3064	Posted - 2012.12.23 04:00:00 - [13] - Quote Anyone else want this?
Kovak Therim ZionTCD Legacy Rising 158	Posted - 2012.12.23 04:12:00 - [14] - Quote +1 It's a good idea. I would be slightly less pissed if a blue rolled off in my ride.
Ulysses Knapse Nuevo Atlas Corporation 73	Posted - 2012.12.23 04:16:00 - [15] - Quote Agreed. It might even give people an incentive to drop off vehicles for their teammates. Who knows?
Kaathe Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 41	Posted - 2012.12.23 05:06:00 - [16] - Quote I like how half the post are about repairing and nothing about OP's original statement....classic... In any case I would like to see points for other people using my stuff (incase people forgot). I paid 200k for that tank, and you decide to take it from me? Sure, as long as I get something out of it. Team Logistics Assist +30 Team Logistics Kill Assist +40
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 3064	Posted - 2012.12.27 00:15:00 - [17] - Quote Kaathe wrote: I like how half the post are about repairing and nothing about OP's original statement....classic... In any case I would like to see points for other people using my stuff (incase people forgot). I paid 200k for that tank, and you decide to take it from me? Sure, as long as I get something out of it. Team Logistics Assist +30 Team Logistics Kill Assist +40 Agreed
Ssensei Nakagawa The Exemplars 16	Posted - 2012.12.28 05:12:00 - [18] - Quote yeah it just makes sense right! I hope that they will implement this suggestion soon. Feels like it would push even more the idea of winning as a team.
Ssensei Nakagawa The Exemplars 16	Posted - 2013.01.04 21:55:00 - [19] - Quote come on people keep this post alive you know you want this.
Sylwester Dziewiecki Doomheim 83	Posted - 2013.01.04 22:08:00 - [20] - Quote Ssensei Nakagawa wrote: When someone uses your resource i.e. Tank, LAV, Dropship I think you should get WP for there action; you are the reason they got the kill in the first place. This would also help you feel less crappy when the go off and steal your vehicle. I assume that the command role will have something like this for their part, so why not also have it individually for the time you die before using a vehicle or someone steals it (same team). This idea sounds ok, but when the door to transfer isk between EVE and DUST will open, pilot will have advantage over other players.



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