DUST Search - (Request) Swarm Launchers

Emrys Gal-Wyddel wrote:

I agree that swarm launcher mechanics need to be edited.

From the other side of the HAV perspective, I know a number of people who are very formidable in a HAV and go multiple games without losing a single one, and I personally find HAVs hard to kill and a pain in the ass. Having said this it is obviously relative to who you come up against in any given game.... Might I suggest you thoroughly explore the matter, skill up to get the best skills you can for it, test out the 'too expensive' tanks, form a properly educated opinion, and actually fulfill your role as a beta tester instead of griping prematurely!

DarkShadowFox wrote:

^Just because you know people, dosent mean you know everyones experience from those people that you "know". HAV ares not a pain in the ass as you put it, they are quite easy to kill, spec into swarm launchers enough and you can have a nice easy ride with killing tanks.

Ive explored Tanks enough, I suggest you explore tanks and fittings and than be on the end of two forge gunners, a swarm launcher and av grenades all rolled into one package. Than You can start speaking like you know things.

but Now I see why the SP required is so big and the sp we get is so little, you CCP are preventing us from getting anywhere so we all cant really see how bad this game is cause you guys are being rushed and your promising too much.

Oh please. lose the sense of self entitlement. You're a beta tester, here to iron out bugs and kinks in game mechanics. Your participation is a privilege not a right, so if you're not going to be constructive then gtfo and let someone more willing take your place.

DarkShadowFox wrote:

^ You have two likes, take a look at you being constructive before you go telling other people to be constructive. Also, dont ever tell someone to leave, specially those who know what they are doing.

I dont care if this is a WIP closed beta, open beta or whatever, there are things that need to be worked on. Blegh, sick of grinding and thats about it.

End rant from a not angry tanker.

Congratulations you've discovered the purpose of a beta.

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DarkShadowFox Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 238	Posted - 2012.11.29 20:18:00 - [1] - Quote Homing to dropships and whatever other vehicle flys, I suggest free fire and non lock onto ground vehicles, already have forge guns that do enough damage, you dont need something that can travel around cover. CCP? Do you want us to use vehicles and support our teammates? Or do you want us to end up smoldering piles of wrecks, Half of the time, im the only one deploying an HAV. Its because their junk and barely what you would call support. I feel like im in a giant bathtub with walls so think and armor even with modules so weak. that even the upper tier tanks get killed in just as much time as I am. Would be nice if you could speed up the repair process on the ammo depots... I cant fit a repair module because of my tank, if I take a lower grade one such as a militia tank, than I risk ending up a smoldering wreck. I dont have Eve Support, so I cant get huge sum transfers and there are plenty of people out there like me that just want to be able to play this game without all this junk. You've made it once again, so vehicles are unplayable, last build I didnt get enough time to spec into them, now that this build thats all im doing Im finding them to be massively weak.. like really? the best tank I can afford has a good health setup and still thats not even enough. id hate to get the more expensive tanks, but Now I see why the SP required is so big and the sp we get is so little, you CCP are preventing us from getting anywhere so we all cant really see how bad this game is cause you guys are being rushed and your promising too much. I dont care if this is a WIP closed beta, open beta or whatever, there are things that need to be worked on. Blegh, sick of grinding and thats about it. End rant from a not angry tanker.
Noc Tempre Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1170	Posted - 2012.11.29 20:20:00 - [2] - Quote You may be interested in this thread. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=394642#post394642
Emrys Gal-Wyddel The Southern Legion 5	Posted - 2012.11.29 23:57:00 - [3] - Quote I agree that swarm launcher mechanics need to be edited. From the other side of the HAV perspective, I know a number of people who are very formidable in a HAV and go multiple games without losing a single one, and I personally find HAVs hard to kill and a pain in the ass. Having said this it is obviously relative to who you come up against in any given game.... Might I suggest you thoroughly explore the matter, skill up to get the best skills you can for it, test out the 'too expensive' tanks, form a properly educated opinion, and actually fulfill your role as a beta tester instead of griping prematurely! DarkShadowFox wrote: but Now I see why the SP required is so big and the sp we get is so little, you CCP are preventing us from getting anywhere so we all cant really see how bad this game is cause you guys are being rushed and your promising too much. Oh please. lose the sense of self entitlement. You're a beta tester, here to iron out bugs and kinks in game mechanics. Your participation is a privilege not a right, so if you're not going to be constructive then gtfo and let someone more willing take your place. DarkShadowFox wrote: I dont care if this is a WIP closed beta, open beta or whatever, there are things that need to be worked on. Blegh, sick of grinding and thats about it. End rant from a not angry tanker. Congratulations you've discovered the purpose of a beta.
DarkShadowFox Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 238	Posted - 2012.11.30 00:14:00 - [4] - Quote Emrys Gal-Wyddel wrote: I agree that swarm launcher mechanics need to be edited. From the other side of the HAV perspective, I know a number of people who are very formidable in a HAV and go multiple games without losing a single one, and I personally find HAVs hard to kill and a pain in the ass. Having said this it is obviously relative to who you come up against in any given game.... Might I suggest you thoroughly explore the matter, skill up to get the best skills you can for it, test out the 'too expensive' tanks, form a properly educated opinion, and actually fulfill your role as a beta tester instead of griping prematurely! DarkShadowFox wrote: ^Just because you know people, dosent mean you know everyones experience from those people that you "know". HAV ares not a pain in the ass as you put it, they are quite easy to kill, spec into swarm launchers enough and you can have a nice easy ride with killing tanks. Ive explored Tanks enough, I suggest you explore tanks and fittings and than be on the end of two forge gunners, a swarm launcher and av grenades all rolled into one package. Than You can start speaking like you know things. but Now I see why the SP required is so big and the sp we get is so little, you CCP are preventing us from getting anywhere so we all cant really see how bad this game is cause you guys are being rushed and your promising too much. Oh please. lose the sense of self entitlement. You're a beta tester, here to iron out bugs and kinks in game mechanics. Your participation is a privilege not a right, so if you're not going to be constructive then gtfo and let someone more willing take your place. DarkShadowFox wrote: ^ You have two likes, take a look at you being constructive before you go telling other people to be constructive. Also, dont ever tell someone to leave, specially those who know what they are doing. I dont care if this is a WIP closed beta, open beta or whatever, there are things that need to be worked on. Blegh, sick of grinding and thats about it. End rant from a not angry tanker. Congratulations you've discovered the purpose of a beta. ^ Congrats, you are sarcastic You Sound Angry, Might I suggest you take a break from gaming for a while and cool down a bit?
Emrys Gal-Wyddel The Southern Legion 5	Posted - 2012.11.30 00:29:00 - [5] - Quote DarkShadowFox wrote: [quote=Emrys Gal-Wyddel] ^ Congrats, you are sarcastic You Sound Angry, Might I suggest you take a break from gaming for a while and cool down a bit? My hostile reply was due to the arrogant and self absorbed tone of your initial post, and that your HAV assessment was incomplete (as you haven't tested the 'expensive' fits; which are presumably more effective) therefore making your comments premature and unhelpful. You're in a beta dude, it is a work in progress. Play it, test it out, find things that you think could improve the game and make positive suggestions, don't demand changes and accuse CCP of some conspiracy to cover up some imagined inadequacies. This game has been in development for years now, and they're continually making changes (many of which have been suggested by the community) to make it the best it can be. I think they have some idea what they're doing.
DarkShadowFox Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 238	Posted - 2012.11.30 00:34:00 - [6] - Quote Emrys Gal-Wyddel wrote: DarkShadowFox wrote: [quote=Emrys Gal-Wyddel] ^ Congrats, you are sarcastic You Sound Angry, Might I suggest you take a break from gaming for a while and cool down a bit? My hostile reply was due to the arrogant and self absorbed tone of your initial post, and that your HAV assessment was incomplete (as you haven't tested the 'expensive' fits; which are presumably more effective) therefore making your comments premature and unhelpful. You're in a beta dude, it is a work in progress. Play it, test it out, find things that you think could improve the game and make positive suggestions, don't demand changes and accuse CCP of some conspiracy to cover up some imagined inadequacies. This game has been in development for years now, and they're continually making changes (many of which have been suggested by the community) to make it the best it can be. I think they have some idea what they're doing. Regardless of it being incomplete in your eyes, dont go around thinking its inadequate, ive seen higher level tanks than me take a hard fall. Ive seen people out fit their tanks so hard they look like their nothing but than comes along a guy with a high level swam and a forge gunner than can pratically snipe, coupled with him being in a railgun tank.... Im sure Ive seen enough. also edit: I think you should try and test it out, and start suggesting and posting.
DarkShadowFox Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 238	Posted - 2012.11.30 00:35:00 - [7] - Quote Noc Tempre wrote: You may be interested in this thread. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=394642#post394642 Thank you, I was looking for something like this.
Emrys Gal-Wyddel The Southern Legion 5	Posted - 2012.11.30 05:19:00 - [8] - Quote DarkShadowFox wrote: Regardless of it being incomplete in your eyes, dont go around thinking its inadequate, ive seen higher level tanks than me take a hard fall. Ive seen people out fit their tanks so hard they look like their nothing but than comes along a guy with a high level swam and a forge gunner than can pratically snipe, coupled with him being in a railgun tank.... Im sure Ive seen enough. also edit: I think you should try and test it out, and start suggesting and posting. Did I say that there were not issues? no. There are. This is a beta, of course there are. My point is that given your limited (personal) experience, you don't seem qualified to make an umbrella judgment of the entire HAV effectiveness. Vehicle mechanics? sure. go for it. For something so fit dependant however, suggestions from someone who is either using a **** fit or not willing to invest in a better fit, it is inappropriate to comment, much less demand that it be made easier for you. You have no idea how these higher level tanks have been fit or how the people killing them are fit. Regardless, my post was more about the tone than the content. Thanks for the suggestion, in light of this post, my persuasion is fairly evident though. I'll reserve my judgments and suggestions until I have some qualified opinions to share and not before.


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