DUST Search - 3 new maps today ! Yay !

Noc Tempre wrote:

Django Quik wrote:

Noc Tempre wrote:

My problem with CCP is not that I underestimate how hard it is to do something seemingly simple; no, my problem with CCP is they don't know what is working and what is not, so everything is complicated. EVERY single event/patch/addition has had unforeseen bugs. Hence I vote skip the QA since it's doing bugger all for you and just start doing rapid iterations so we can actually test things better.

We can NOT test better than the professional QA teams they have - the reason we are testing at all is because they need to see how all this stuff works in real gameplay environments, rather than set pieces like they use in their testing teams. If they just skipped the QA like you suggest, the game would likely not even work at all.

Get used to it - there are going to be bugs in everything, even the stuff they fix, because the whole idea of doing a beta is to find all the bugs and work them out for launch. If there were no bugs, they could just release the game.

And finally, they do know what's broken and they list what they're working on in two different DEV threads - https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=403960#post403960
and
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=403957#post403957

Their QA testers are garbage for balance. FACT.

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Omnipotens Zitro Doomheim 425	Posted - 2012.11.26 16:05:00 - [31] - Quote CCP only stated that they added 3 new maps. They never said that we can play them! They trolled us good.
Vexen Krios Doomheim 95	Posted - 2012.11.26 16:06:00 - [32] - Quote once again they fell asleep with their hand beside the "add" button...
Django Quik R.I.f.t 219	Posted - 2012.11.26 16:11:00 - [33] - Quote Someone mentioned on ingame chat that they won't be available to play until December 4th... [unverified]
EriktheHeartless Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 168	Posted - 2012.11.26 16:12:00 - [34] - Quote yay ccp adds 3 new maps that you cant play.
Reav Hannari Red Rock Outriders Red Rock Consortium 295	Posted - 2012.11.26 16:46:00 - [35] - Quote 'Mercenary battle pool'. I've never seen any battles posted there, only under "Instant Battles".
Noc Tempre Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1170	Posted - 2012.11.26 17:01:00 - [36] - Quote My problem with CCP is not that I underestimate how hard it is to do something seemingly simple; no, my problem with CCP is they don't know what is working and what is not, so everything is complicated. EVERY single event/patch/addition has had unforeseen bugs. Hence I vote skip the QA since it's doing bugger all for you and just start doing rapid iterations so we can actually test things better.
Mavado V Noriega SyNergy Gaming 2282	Posted - 2012.11.26 17:07:00 - [37] - Quote EriktheHeartless wrote: yay ccp adds 3 new maps that you cant play. CCP teasin?! YOU DONT SAY
xxwhitedevilxx M Maphia Clan Corporation CRONOS. 229	Posted - 2012.11.26 17:14:00 - [38] - Quote DEVs? GMs? Where are you?? Where's the Unicorn?
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2866	Posted - 2012.11.26 17:25:00 - [39] - Quote Noc Tempre wrote: My problem with CCP is not that I underestimate how hard it is to do something seemingly simple; no, my problem with CCP is they don't know what is working and what is not, so everything is complicated. EVERY single event/patch/addition has had unforeseen bugs. Hence I vote skip the QA since it's doing bugger all for you and just start doing rapid iterations so we can actually test things better. Game is complicated... has all the hall marks of ccp spiderwebbing.
Django Quik R.I.f.t 219	Posted - 2012.11.26 18:04:00 - [40] - Quote Noc Tempre wrote: My problem with CCP is not that I underestimate how hard it is to do something seemingly simple; no, my problem with CCP is they don't know what is working and what is not, so everything is complicated. EVERY single event/patch/addition has had unforeseen bugs. Hence I vote skip the QA since it's doing bugger all for you and just start doing rapid iterations so we can actually test things better. We can NOT test better than the professional QA teams they have - the reason we are testing at all is because they need to see how all this stuff works in real gameplay environments, rather than set pieces like they use in their testing teams. If they just skipped the QA like you suggest, the game would likely not even work at all. Get used to it - there are going to be bugs in everything, even the stuff they fix, because the whole idea of doing a beta is to find all the bugs and work them out for launch. If there were no bugs, they could just release the game. And finally, they do know what's broken and they list what they're working on in two different DEV threads - https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=403960#post403960 and https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=403957#post403957

10mg PLUMBUM Academy Inferno 73	Posted - 2012.11.26 18:33:00 - [41] - Quote Where is new map ???? Where is 3 new maps????
Forlorn Destrier ZionTCD Legacy Rising 914	Posted - 2012.11.26 18:51:00 - [42] - Quote Laurent Cazaderon wrote: i havent seen anyone who actually played a new map atm. It's getting boring that every update\fix is never actually working day one... What's the use of extended downtime if no test are done to ensure the update went through properly ? That's our job, silly. We are the beta testers used by CCP.
Noc Tempre Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1170	Posted - 2012.11.26 19:23:00 - [43] - Quote Django Quik wrote: Noc Tempre wrote: My problem with CCP is not that I underestimate how hard it is to do something seemingly simple; no, my problem with CCP is they don't know what is working and what is not, so everything is complicated. EVERY single event/patch/addition has had unforeseen bugs. Hence I vote skip the QA since it's doing bugger all for you and just start doing rapid iterations so we can actually test things better. We can NOT test better than the professional QA teams they have - the reason we are testing at all is because they need to see how all this stuff works in real gameplay environments, rather than set pieces like they use in their testing teams. If they just skipped the QA like you suggest, the game would likely not even work at all. Get used to it - there are going to be bugs in everything, even the stuff they fix, because the whole idea of doing a beta is to find all the bugs and work them out for launch. If there were no bugs, they could just release the game. And finally, they do know what's broken and they list what they're working on in two different DEV threads - https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=403960#post403960 and https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=403957#post403957 Their QA testers are garbage for balance. FACT.
DarkShadowFox Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 238	Posted - 2012.11.26 19:42:00 - [44] - Quote OHHH so thats why im not earning alot anymore XD
BMSTUBBYx Doomheim 83	Posted - 2012.11.26 19:57:00 - [45] - Quote Gunner Needed wrote: Sha Kharn Clone wrote: Loving the new maps great work +1 Also the treees man they been along time coming. Games going in the right direction. Are you for real?....coz im gonna cry if your not Quote: REQUEST] More detailed building interiors Update: The current focus is to bring out more game mode variety but we do plan to have more building interiors and foliage, but most likely not until 2013. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=34744&find=unread
Solomon Malcolm BurgezzE.T.F 13	Posted - 2012.11.26 21:12:00 - [46] - Quote Yeah.... i havent seen any new maps too. Well, im not gonna hate, it is what it is until they work out the bugs.
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2866	Posted - 2012.11.26 21:16:00 - [47] - Quote Noc Tempre wrote: Django Quik wrote: Noc Tempre wrote: My problem with CCP is not that I underestimate how hard it is to do something seemingly simple; no, my problem with CCP is they don't know what is working and what is not, so everything is complicated. EVERY single event/patch/addition has had unforeseen bugs. Hence I vote skip the QA since it's doing bugger all for you and just start doing rapid iterations so we can actually test things better. We can NOT test better than the professional QA teams they have - the reason we are testing at all is because they need to see how all this stuff works in real gameplay environments, rather than set pieces like they use in their testing teams. If they just skipped the QA like you suggest, the game would likely not even work at all. Get used to it - there are going to be bugs in everything, even the stuff they fix, because the whole idea of doing a beta is to find all the bugs and work them out for launch. If there were no bugs, they could just release the game. And finally, they do know what's broken and they list what they're working on in two different DEV threads - https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=403960#post403960 and https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=403957#post403957 Their QA testers are garbage for balance. FACT. Confirming Fact. QA doesnt test balance. They test functionality.
Heavenly Daughter CrimeWave Syndicate 71	Posted - 2012.11.26 21:29:00 - [48] - Quote TRY PLAYING AMBUSH, :)
Terram Nenokal BetaMax. 115	Posted - 2012.11.26 21:41:00 - [49] - Quote Heavenly Daughter wrote: TRY PLAYING AMBUSH, :) Why?
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 3064	Posted - 2012.11.26 23:27:00 - [50] - Quote I can't see the mew maps.. damn invalid label bug, right after I dealt with this bug that wouldn't let me leave the war barge, or spawn if the game already started.

Richard Sebire Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 7	Posted - 2012.11.27 00:27:00 - [51] - Quote Zombies or this. Zombies
Sentient Archon Red Star. 690	Posted - 2012.11.27 03:00:00 - [52] - Quote Got the same 3 point map today. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. Friggin energizer bunny.
BestNameEva Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 86	Posted - 2012.11.27 03:42:00 - [53] - Quote https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=45724&find=unread
Traky78 What The French 115	Posted - 2012.11.27 03:46:00 - [54] - Quote Arf... Nice troll again CCP <3
Laurent Cazaderon Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 1155	Posted - 2012.11.27 08:14:00 - [55] - Quote This is beyond troll..... It's being maso in a way and seeking to be flammed by us. CCPers, if you guys like pain, just say so.
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 401	Posted - 2012.11.27 11:42:00 - [56] - Quote Lets see Borderlands 2, Dead Island GOTY, Resident Evil 6, Tales of Graces and a few other games sitting there or Dust 514?? I guess its those games on Thursday. Sorry but getting a bit bored of the current Dust 514 build.
Forlorn Destrier ZionTCD Legacy Rising 914	Posted - 2012.11.27 12:56:00 - [57] - Quote CCP added a comment to their thread 3 hours after stating the new maps are not publicly available. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=45724&find=unread
Knightshade Belladonna Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 288	Posted - 2012.11.27 13:10:00 - [58] - Quote damn, that was a good troll ccp
GLOO GLOO Algintal Core Gallente Federation 217	Posted - 2012.11.27 13:14:00 - [59] - Quote As I said on another post : Just wanna smash a dev face on his desk
cranium79 ZionTCD Legacy Rising 38	Posted - 2012.11.27 13:27:00 - [60] - Quote CCP Frame C C P C C P Alliance Likes received: 330 #3Posted: 2012.11.27 03:23 \| Report Just a quick clarification on the maps that got deployed in this hotfix: The maps are currently not publicly accessible, but we are planning on opening them up soon, so stay tuned! Thank you! found this on the announcements page in the "extended downtime" article.



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