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meri jin
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.11.23 13:24:00 -
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One very critical for you, a wish witch needs to be fulfilled for you to play Dust514, what would it be?
Your second wish would be very great to have; it would make it easier for you to sell this experience to your friends. (And you really would like to have it anyway.)
The third and last wish would be something you already give up to hope for, something that is maybe not even related with Dust514 but still so great to have. You may be never had the courage to say it out loud because this community isnGÇÖt friendly at all?
But wait, there is more! LetGÇÖs tread this posting seriously, like CCP is going to release this game in the coming month, and you are like: GÇ£wow, wow, wow, stop! This never going to work out! You have at least to consider the following things.GÇ¥ That said letGÇÖs not talking about how this is a closed beta and still work in progress, you have to take it seriously, remember, we donGÇÖt have much time left! Well, what would it be?
My critical is definitely the bad mechanic with in this game. This game becomes boring after one hour. It is still too slow, unexciting, colorless, I canGÇÖt stand this grey-in-grey-with-some-more-shades-of-grey *giggle*. IGÇÖve blamed the poor mechanic so often, I become nearly exhausted.
The second wish is again the mechanic; yeah I know I sound like a broken record.
My third wish is for some shiny collectingGÇÖs. What I like about other shooters like BF3 and MW3 is the identification with the tool or your choice. ItGÇÖs like the one and only friends you have (love you F2000*kiss*) you tweak it a little with some optional modules, love the sound (nearly all the sounds in Dust514 sucks), love the handling, you like and hate to see it being used by other players and you still like it without any scope on it, if you get to pick one naked up. In Dust we have an Assault Rifle; wow this is great, one, really? This is it? IGÇÖm not asking for like 25 different rifles, with different looks, sounds, handling, attributes and so on.
Actually, yes. IGÇÖm asking for a cartload of different tools for the same family. |
D'Finn Rhedlyne
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
266
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Posted - 2012.11.23 13:33:00 -
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1. Change the LAV driving mechanics to something more standardised.
2. SP rewards for Repair and Revive increased.
3. To mark players for death, so everytime you kill them... the reward is increased. |
Jack Boost
Zarena Family
194
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Posted - 2012.11.23 13:54:00 -
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meri jin wrote:
Actually, yes. IGÇÖm asking for a cartload of different tools for the same family.
Ansfer for you ;) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cf3RfidFKBw&feature=relmfu |
meri jin
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
21
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Posted - 2012.11.23 14:07:00 -
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Yes I'm hoping to see this in a DLC :D. |
Kleanur Guy
SyNergy Gaming
154
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Posted - 2012.11.23 14:43:00 -
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Weapon customisation, a somewhat better ISK system (EVE online ISK over to Dust 514 screwed it up) and items for every race! Give me a Caldari Heavy!. |
Vrain Matari
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
404
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Posted - 2012.11.23 16:14:00 -
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Critical: Flawless, consistent, Kinesthetic, intuitive fps gameplay. This means a few things, but like a good marriage if any one of them are broke things just won't work. I'm not trying to cheat here by packing several different things into one category - all of the core fps mechanics need to be rock solid AND feel so good it's perverse.
- Hit detection, bullet registration, lag. - Controls. The controller response curve, which is under CCP's control, sucks. We should be able to modify this curve for ourselves, and set it for various loadouts/vehicles. - Controller input lag. This: http://www.gamasutra.com/view/feature/3725/measuring_responsiveness_in_video_.php - Character movement, collision detection, interaction with the terrain.
Very great to have: Mind-boggling social/team support. - transparent HUD squad/team status list with 'who's talking, bleeding, etc.' indicators - Training maps/facilities with video capture using 'god mode' cameras. Videos publishable. - The ability to toggle proxy chat.
Final wish: Combined PVE/PVE missions deeply integrated with New Eden Lore. - An example: Use dropship to scan for resources/artifacts. Deploy to location on planet in open PvP environment. Enter PvE 'site' and attempt tp extract desired resources/artifacts while other players/groups can potentially enter the same site and ruin your day. - Fully detailed here: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=311012#post311012 |
Lavirac JR
DUST University Ivy League
129
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Posted - 2012.11.23 17:08:00 -
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Critical for me: Every planned feature being implemented before release. The player market, player built items, planet capturing, all the missing items on the market, and alliance warfare.
Good for bringing in other players: A meaningful role in alliance wars. Let us capture space stations (and loot the corp hangers!), let us capture Titans, let us have a meaningful role in Eve which is a successful game already. This would go a long way in making Dust a success.
Never Going To Happen Wish: Undo the War Dec Nerf and let us be able to capture EVERY ship in the game. Then I would join PRVTR and be happy. |
meri jin
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
21
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Posted - 2012.11.23 17:47:00 -
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Holly carp, i love so many of this ideas :D |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
1058
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Posted - 2012.11.23 18:47:00 -
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- Get the game past the "everyday FPS" stage and into the "eve-sized" stage
- Give us something to do besides fighting and (soon to be) playing the market
- It would be amazing if we could board ships eve players are piloting- both to sabotage them, or to defend them.
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Zat Earthshatter
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
304
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Posted - 2012.11.23 19:14:00 -
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First wish: Iron out the mechanics, especially hit-detection. In OP's one-month situation, they would have to steal code wholesale from other games, maybe even COD, to get it right.
Second Wish: If not more vehicle classes right away, then at least have vehicles that represent all four New Eden races. The limited selection makes me feel like we are still fighting the Gallente-Caldari War. OR Implement my idea for cloaky EVE ships: allow them to scan an enemy-controlled map, then load it into a holodeck-like training sim for us. It won't break either game, give cloakys something to do other than freak out the other guys, and it throws extra sand in the sandbox!
Third Wish: Add defender-owned storage containers to most game-modes and maps. Hacking them transfers ownership either to your team, or your greedy self. OR "More Genies!"
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Th3rdSun
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
323
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Posted - 2012.11.23 19:29:00 -
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Vrain Matari wrote:Critical: Flawless, consistent, Kinesthetic, intuitive fps gameplay. This means a few things, but like a good marriage if any one of them are broke things just won't work. I'm not trying to cheat here by packing several different things into one category - all of the core fps mechanics need to be rock solid AND feel so good it's perverse. - Hit detection, bullet registration, lag. - Controls. The controller response curve, which is under CCP's control, sucks. We should be able to modify this curve for ourselves, and set it for various loadouts/vehicles. - Controller input lag. This: http://www.gamasutra.com/view/feature/3725/measuring_responsiveness_in_video_.php- Character movement, collision detection, interaction with the terrain. Very great to have: Mind-boggling social/team support. - transparent HUD squad/team status list with 'who's talking, bleeding, etc.' indicators - Training maps/facilities with video capture using 'god mode' cameras. Videos publishable. - The ability to toggle proxy chat. Final wish: Combined PVE/PVE missions deeply integrated with New Eden Lore. - An example: Use dropship to scan for resources/artifacts. Deploy to location on planet in open PvP environment. Enter PvE 'site' and attempt tp extract desired resources/artifacts while other players/groups can potentially enter the same site and ruin your day. - Fully detailed here: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=311012#post311012 It's pretty ridiculous that I'm the first person to "like" this post.
I don't want to sound like an a-hole,but anyone that doesn't have the first portion of Vrain's post as their first wish is pretty clueless about what a FPS is supposed to be.The gameplay mechanics are the very foundation not just of any shooter,but any game,period.Without those,what's the point?
CCP REALLY needs to make sure that if they don't accomplish anything else,they have to get the mechanics down,and right now,there are still just too many issues with them that need to be sorted out. |
Moonracer2000
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
311
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Posted - 2012.11.23 19:32:00 -
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1- In order for me to play the game for any extended time past release they have to get the mechanics for persistent territory control and conquest implemented and done right. That is the main selling point for the game and is what will make it stand out over all other games.
2- Weapon complexity, feel and variety needs improvement for me to likely convert my friends into the game. This chart is a good example of what I'm talking about. The chart shows just assault rifles for BF3. Each with a lot of varying stats. If my friends can compare weapons and equipment in charts like that and can make educated decisions they will be kept interested longer. More "meaty" recoil is what I would like to see more of in particular.
3- Gungame will feel like an AAA shooter. Honestly I came into the beta never expecting that to happen (mostly from low F2P expectations) so I will not be disappointed. But the closer CCP comes to that the more excited I will become.
edit: 2.5- complete controls customization. I hate the controller layout (and know others do also) but I'm not holding my breath for this one. |
Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders Red Rock Consortium
295
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Posted - 2012.11.23 19:42:00 -
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1. Fill in all the racial variants of equipment and vehicles. If I want to stay pure Minmatar then let me have a wide variety of options and be able to fill all the current dropsuit based roles.
2. Team status with health and squad objectives. As a logi I need to see where I'm needed the most and as a squad leader it would be good to know what the other squads are aiming for.
3. Life outside of battle. I'm looking forward to the industry and economic ties with EVE. The ability to work with my corp members to train, trade and generally prepare for the next battle. Shared dropsuit and vehicles would be nice too. |
Sleepy Zan
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
2046
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Posted - 2012.11.23 20:48:00 -
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I will annihilate you and cook up a hot pocket at the same damn time |
John Genericname
Gelente Special Forces
16
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Posted - 2012.11.23 20:53:00 -
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1.) Increase the auto aim. I know everyone will think I'm a noob for saying this,but the controls right now, or the aiming to be more precise, is set up more for keyboard and mouse/ playstation eye and not the ds3 controller.
2.) More guns. I already know there are plenty of guns in the marketplace, but they all look the same. I want to buy an assault rifle that is unique and cool. Right now the guns are far from unique.
3.) An Isk variant of all aurum items. I know this could defeat the purpose of aurum, but hey, I want a yellow assault dropsuit without having to spend my real life cash. |
SickJ
French unchained corporation
48
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Posted - 2012.11.23 21:07:00 -
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1) I want to be able to loot equipment from fallen enemies. Maybe make it so I can hack his dropsuit...
2) I want to be able to put a bounty on an enemy's head if he's pissing me off. Ex.: if someone kills me, I can say '10 000 ISK to whoever kills that guy!' You can't deny, that would be very cool.
3) Destructible terrain/buildings. Probably not gonna happen. (Battlefield & Red Faction got me spoiled) |
meri jin
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
21
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Posted - 2012.11.23 21:53:00 -
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please keep up the good work, this is the most interesting posting i have seen for a long time in this forum. I like the "never going to happen anyway" wishes a lot right now :). |
Vrain Matari
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
404
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Posted - 2012.11.24 05:49:00 -
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From another point of view, assuming CCP makes the mechanics sweet and the comms good:
Critical: Merc access to Technetium, or something like it. Moon missions, anyone?
Great to Have: Dust gunships engaging Rifters in the stratosphere.
Wish List: I need to see a carrier drop through atmosphere, release a wing of rifters, and hit the jump drive just before impact a la BSG. Need. To. See. Edit: If you can do this, CCP, I will buy full VR gear from SONY just for playing DUST. Make it happen. ;) |
Mister Hunt
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
230
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Posted - 2012.11.24 09:32:00 -
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Critical: Fix the disconnects
Great to Have: Larger battles
Wish we could have but not holding my breath: Dust on my PC!!!
To break them down, I feel that the frequent disconnects and having to reboot every few games to keep playability up is terrible. It is gamebreaking in fact. This should be what the entire team at CCP:Shanghai should be working on right now. Forget new content, fix what you already have. The great to have thing is something that I know is coming, and it won't "break" the game not to have it, just would be really nice, especially for corp battles and such. The last thing, well, ya, CCP nixed that idea, but that was the sort of thing you were asking for, right? Something that we knew wasn't going to happen but would be nice if it did? My computer blows any console out of the water as far as capabilities go, would love to be able to have this on PC. |
Enji Elric
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Zombie Ninja Space Bears
176
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Posted - 2012.11.24 09:55:00 -
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I think I only have one wish which I have already given up on. it really has less to do with DUST and more to with IRL.
Give our Battalion a Good internet connection ANYWHERE we go in Afghanistan. I'm Deploying there in April and more than likely into the Western parts. and with my job responsibilities its looking less and less likely to be able to get any kind of data out there
FARP (Foward Ammo Refueling Point) DART (Downed Aircraft Recovery Team)
Yea I know, Go out there and take care of bisnazz soldier, i get it but it would be nice with the downtime to be able to log into something like DUST and focus on something other than that freakin place.
who knows I might get lucky and be stationed at Bagram Airbase... lol not likely
like i said not really to do with dust but its a wish and without it it means no DUST till may 14 at least.. |
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SickJ
French unchained corporation
48
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Posted - 2012.11.27 02:40:00 -
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Mister Hunt wrote:
Great to Have: Larger battles
I read in an interview somewhere that there's no real limit to how big CCP can make the battles. Apparently they could have 200 mercs running around on one map, right now, if we'd simply put up the resulting lag.
So there's hope. |
J'Jor Da'Wg
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
648
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Posted - 2012.11.27 02:59:00 -
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Critical:
Solidify the FPS mechanics, as others have stated with more detail before me.
Solidify netcode, polish the heck out of it, so we can get 64 v 64 battles. At that point will I be satisfied, I understand if it can't be more than 128 players in a battle. But that is my benchmark.
Have all mechanics in at launch; nullsec warfare, district capture, PI, industry, lowsec, etc.
Have full racial variants of all weapons, suits, and vehicles.
Commander mode w/MCC, and installations, planetary infrastructure
Nice to have:
Expanded PVP, such ad eSports and gladiator modes
PVE
More maps, such as oceanic, storm, desert, volcanic, urban, etc.
Expanded contact with EVE, such as station takeovers, ship boarding, etc.
Random dream:
Planet altering events, such as repeated Titan bombardments changing a world from temperate to barren, or even possibly a mass bombardment destroying a world and turning it into a shattered planet. (would require a long and sustained, IMMENSE bombardment, such that it is highly unlikely to happen but still possible...)
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Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
401
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Posted - 2012.11.27 04:25:00 -
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Enji Elric wrote:I think I only have one wish which I have already given up on. it really has less to do with DUST and more to with IRL.
Give our Battalion a Good internet connection ANYWHERE we go in Afghanistan. I'm Deploying there in April and more than likely into the Western parts. and with my job responsibilities its looking less and less likely to be able to get any kind of data out there
FARP (Foward Ammo Refueling Point) DART (Downed Aircraft Recovery Team)
Yea I know, Go out there and take care of bisnazz soldier, i get it but it would be nice with the downtime to be able to log into something like DUST and focus on something other than that freakin place.
who knows I might get lucky and be stationed at Bagram Airbase... lol not likely
like i said not really to do with dust but its a wish and without it it means no DUST till may 14 at least..
Get a good whiskey or whatever the Battalion CO likes and get it fixed on a back channel.
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meri jin
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
21
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Posted - 2012.12.10 17:10:00 -
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SickJ wrote:1) I want to be able to loot equipment from fallen enemies. Maybe make it so I can hack his dropsuit...
2) I want to be able to put a bounty on an enemy's head if he's pissing me off. Ex.: if someone kills me, I can say '10 000 ISK to whoever kills that guy!' You can't deny, that would be very cool.
3) Destructible terrain/buildings. Probably not gonna happen. (Battlefield & Red Faction got me spoiled)
I think i like all of this 3 :) |
Michael Cratar
Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire
179
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Posted - 2012.12.10 18:09:00 -
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1. Doors that open.
2. Racial variants of everything.
3. Surprise me. |
SickJ
French unchained corporation
48
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Posted - 2012.12.13 00:54:00 -
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Michael Cratar wrote:1. Doors that open.
Why did I not think of this? |
TiMeSpLiT--TeR
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
326
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Posted - 2012.12.13 03:24:00 -
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GTF outta here. =D
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Beld Errmon
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
479
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Posted - 2012.12.13 03:44:00 -
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1 AU servers with more then 10 players at any given time.
2 The ability to queue on US or EU servers so i can actually have a full game once in a while.
3 i'd give up the third wish to have either of the above. |
Xeemix Narubu
Institute 22
3
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Posted - 2012.12.13 05:07:00 -
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Critical: PVE I'm seriously waiting on some PVE gameplay
Great to Have: Light aircraft, I've seen the little game icons on the loading screen. I want light, cheap(?) aircraft i don't care if you could shoot it down with a hmg, My idea would be a one man, small possible low speed fighter capable of making bombing runs (dumb firing turret installation at the bottom) and dog fights (blaster turret installation in the nose), i want have fly! Also dem Pilot dropsuits.
Wish List:A massive PVE campaign like system where you can fight some Xeno scourge, robots, bandits w/e as they attack your corporation's planet/Headquarters requiring your corporation to defend your base or something of that nature. I'm too lazy to go in depth of what i'd really like to see but you get the point. |
DUST Fiend
Immobile Infantry
1900
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Posted - 2012.12.13 05:14:00 -
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1.) Focus as much as possible on removing lag and disconnects
2.) It would be nice having dropships that are designed for dropping troops, and gunships for killing stuff
3.) I've kind of given up on assault rifles being balanced out more, but please please please make them require skill to use. |
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Guydon Antllies
HoloSec Armaments and Security
51
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Posted - 2012.12.13 05:56:00 -
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Th3rdSun wrote:Vrain Matari wrote:Critical: Flawless, consistent, Kinesthetic, intuitive fps gameplay. This means a few things, but like a good marriage if any one of them are broke things just won't work. I'm not trying to cheat here by packing several different things into one category - all of the core fps mechanics need to be rock solid AND feel so good it's perverse. - Hit detection, bullet registration, lag. - Controls. The controller response curve, which is under CCP's control, sucks. We should be able to modify this curve for ourselves, and set it for various loadouts/vehicles. - Controller input lag. This: http://www.gamasutra.com/view/feature/3725/measuring_responsiveness_in_video_.php- Character movement, collision detection, interaction with the terrain. Very great to have: Mind-boggling social/team support. - transparent HUD squad/team status list with 'who's talking, bleeding, etc.' indicators - Training maps/facilities with video capture using 'god mode' cameras. Videos publishable. - The ability to toggle proxy chat. Final wish: Combined PVE/PVE missions deeply integrated with New Eden Lore. - An example: Use dropship to scan for resources/artifacts. Deploy to location on planet in open PvP environment. Enter PvE 'site' and attempt tp extract desired resources/artifacts while other players/groups can potentially enter the same site and ruin your day. - Fully detailed here: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=311012#post311012 It's pretty ridiculous that I'm the first person to "like" this post. I don't want to sound like an a-hole,but anyone that doesn't have the first portion of Vrain's post as their first wish is pretty clueless about what a FPS is supposed to be.The gameplay mechanics are the very foundation not just of any shooter,but any game,period.Without those,what's the point? CCP REALLY needs to make sure that if they don't accomplish anything else,they have to get the mechanics down,and right now,there are still just too many issues with them that need to be sorted out.
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