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Daalzebul Del'Armgo
D3LTA FORC3 Orion Empire
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Posted - 2012.11.22 07:14:00 -
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ok first off to get things clear in null or low sec Friendly fire on at all times.
now, far as the high sec/Fraction warfare stuff perhaps have a Set up similar to The Crime watch changes your doing in EVE.
High sec only 1. Friendly Fire does Half Damage 2. Once you manage to kill said friendly (by accident or on purpose) You become flagged for 15 min during that match 3. Once flagged you Take full Damage from all Friendlies
Possible Vech options 1. you hop in someones tank message pops up. Are you sure you want to take this tank. Doing so will enable suspect flag from the owner of the tank. So here with this setting the Owner of the tank can do full damage to his own tank or driver just for spite.
So this opens up a lot of options for Meta game, plus what is a game made by CCP without Tears.
figured i would throw this out there since most want friendly fire on or off, how about a hybrid systems instead keeping with EVE
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Free Beers
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2012.11.22 07:16:00 -
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CCP said no FF in hisec. Others yes |
Daalzebul Del'Armgo
D3LTA FORC3 Orion Empire
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Posted - 2012.11.22 07:20:00 -
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umm yep i know just pushing to tweak the system and put ideas in there head. plus it's fun to make tears in high sec =p |
Sleepy Zan
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2012.11.22 07:27:00 -
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Free Beers wrote:CCP said no FF in hisec. Others yes and I still don't agree with it |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
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Posted - 2012.11.22 12:12:00 -
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Sleepy Zan wrote:Free Beers wrote:CCP said no FF in hisec. Others yes and I still don't agree with it
i see both sides having it on in hisec makes for ppl to act like douches end up in a pub randomly with a corp say u just beat in a FW match....they FG ur tank repeatedly and crap like that
if CCP puts FF in hisec they need to have a penalty for the aggressor that matches the value or more lost by the person they killed or maybe richochet damage?
u shoot a friendly u take as much dmg as u caused? |
Free Beers
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2012.11.22 17:08:00 -
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For now no FF in hisec maybe later there can be a security status system but for now best to leave it turned off. The more we want now the longer it will take for this to go live |
Fivetimes Infinity
Immobile Infantry
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Posted - 2012.11.22 23:49:00 -
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Friendly fire is good, but the system needs to be pretty well-engineered if they want to keep it from ruining the game. Having intelligent interpretation of FF (shooting a friend near an enemy, versus shooting a friend near your spawn far from any enemies), appropriate punishments (fines relative to the cost incurred, extra ISK from your wallet for friends you kill, booting/barring from games for a lot of TKs in a short period of time), and so on. It would just demand a lot of work from CCP to do it. I'm sure at this point they don't even want to think about it, having so much left to do as-is. |
BASSMEANT
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.11.23 00:12:00 -
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FF should be on in all modes at all times.
otherwise... it's just greasy kids stuff.
Peace B |
J'Jor Da'Wg
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2012.11.23 00:23:00 -
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Mavado V Noriega wrote:Sleepy Zan wrote:Free Beers wrote:CCP said no FF in hisec. Others yes and I still don't agree with it i see both sides having it on in hisec makes for ppl to act like douches end up in a pub randomly with a corp say u just beat in a FW match....they FG ur tank repeatedly and crap like that if CCP puts FF in hisec they need to have a penalty for the aggressor that matches the value or more lost by the person they killed or maybe richochet damage? u shoot a friendly u take as much dmg as u caused?
Nah, you just have the ISK value of the friendly killed taken automatically out of your wallet, and if you don't have enough ISK, all your winnings until it is paid off go to the friendly you killed. |
Olav Grey-Mane
The Exemplars
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Posted - 2012.11.23 03:22:00 -
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or you instead of punishing Friendly fire with friendly fire, you could just make it so the friendly firer does no damage at all for like a minute 30 or more? |
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Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
2283
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Posted - 2012.11.23 03:43:00 -
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Free Beers wrote:For now no FF in hisec maybe later there can be a security status system but for now best to leave it turned off. The more we want now the longer it will take for this to go live
THIS.
Right now should focus on the main things to keep this game alive so we can add the little things later
Corp Armory Corp VR training rooms A Badass FW (right now FW contracts are meh) Weapon customization (yes this needs to be in at launch) Planetary Conquest mode (cant launch a game with only ambush and skirmish tbqh)
i figure the game could launch with minimum those in altho id love to see gladiator arenas and MTACs/Fighters/Gunships in at launch just to have a better variety of vehicles and also gladiator arenas will keep competitive hardcore corps interested and active
CCP needs to hold both the casual and corp players attention while not delaying the game too much because interest levels will start to drop with more and more setbacks |
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