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Paran Tadec
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2012.11.22 04:12:00 -
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Please add a 90 degree cone of fire for forge guns, so it has nothing to do at all with how well you aim. K THX |
Elijah Sol' Dzusaki
Onward Defrosted Tuna Team
485
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Posted - 2012.11.22 04:16:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:Please add a 90 degree cone of fire for forge guns, so it has nothing to do at all with how well you aim. K THX
It can already be difficult to hit something with forge. It already takes skill and luck |
HowDidThatTaste
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2012.11.22 04:17:00 -
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I knew this thread was coming.
But please explain why is it that forge guns are now overpowered? |
Elijah Sol' Dzusaki
Onward Defrosted Tuna Team
485
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Posted - 2012.11.22 04:19:00 -
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HowDidThatTaste wrote:I knew this thread was coming.
But please explain why is it that forge guns are now overpowered?
Tanks nerf'd now everything else is overpowered.
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Sleepy Zan
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
2046
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Posted - 2012.11.22 04:19:00 -
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HowDidThatTaste wrote:I knew this thread was coming.
But please explain why is it that forge guns are now overpowered? "because you kill my tanks and derpships" DX |
Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
384
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Posted - 2012.11.22 04:20:00 -
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Wanting the only decent/skill intensive Av weapon? Cry me a river so I can drown you in it. |
CLONE 2774
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.11.22 04:21:00 -
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NO NO NO NO NO!! You guys will not screw up another weapon thats already as balanced as it should. If this is nerfed you can bend over and kiss AVs butt goodbye. |
Hollow M Ling
Doomheim
30
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Posted - 2012.11.22 04:29:00 -
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I only have two words for this: Hell No |
Lazero Dawnedge
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.11.22 04:46:00 -
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I'll give him one word.
No. |
Gyrnius
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
65
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Posted - 2012.11.22 05:13:00 -
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Try using a forge gun :/ They are horribly inaccurate, slow rof, make you an easy target and still take ages to chomp through a good HAV or dropship. Try using an assault variant and properly lead AND time a dropship moving in 3 dimensional space, then cry when it just flies behind a mountain and recharges its shields. How about the breach variant that BOLTS YOU TO THE GROUND before you can actually shoot the charge?
Don't cry about something being op without stepping into their users' shoes for a little. |
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Paran Tadec
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2012.11.22 05:35:00 -
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Gyrnius wrote:Try using a forge gun :/ They are horribly inaccurate, slow rof, make you an easy target and still take ages to chomp through a good HAV or dropship. Try using an assault variant and properly lead AND time a dropship moving in 3 dimensional space, then cry when it just flies behind a mountain and recharges its shields. How about the breach variant that BOLTS YOU TO THE GROUND before you can actually shoot the charge?
Don't cry about something being op without stepping into their users' shoes for a little.
Used it in previous build. Suck it. |
KripnawtiQ Prime
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
206
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Posted - 2012.11.22 05:37:00 -
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HowDidThatTaste wrote:I knew this thread was coming.
But please explain why is it that forge guns are now overpowered?
Not to mention the chances of dying while forging against a tank/dropship are like 95% unless somebody is covering you.
I sense possible sarcasm from OP
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Enji Elric
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Zombie Ninja Space Bears
176
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Posted - 2012.11.22 05:37:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:Please add a 90 degree cone of fire for forge guns, so it has nothing to do at all with how well you aim. K THX
congratulations on a good Trolling....
seriously no one else noticed the bit about 90deg. or nothing to do with aiming....
Gullible is written on the ceiling
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Wako 75
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
76
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Posted - 2012.11.22 05:40:00 -
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Elijah Sol' Dzusaki wrote:HowDidThatTaste wrote:I knew this thread was coming.
But please explain why is it that forge guns are now overpowered? Tanks nerf'd now everything else is overpowered.
***** please i could use forge guns efficently before but yes they are op. its not like it ws impossible to take out tanks or dropships before it just took teamwork and skill. comeon really people lets get some teamwork going seriously. yea it sucks getting spawncamed but if people sit there tryin to use frontline starter dont expect to do anything it doesnt take that much sp to get a forge you guys just to lazy to work as a team give up like 300000 sp but no lets just make call of duty whith uavs flying around doing nothing and some free points on wheels.
let me put it this way
before
guy1 guy2}oh **** a tank run away!!! boom dead guy3
now
guy1 hey guys hes using a tank look haha. guy2 does he know they nerfed that? guy3 got my forge boom tank dead guy2 did you see he tried to shoot you and couldnt even hit you what a noob.
should be
guy1 oh **** a tank run away (guy1=noob) Tank driver1 look at the noob boom. noob down guy2&3 lets get our forges while that noob distracts him tankdriver1 ohh noooo forges boom guy 3 dead but got shot off at tank guy2 shoots boom tank dead hell yeah you see that o wait lol you guys are dead. LOGI!!! guy 1 aww man i deied and lost a 50000 isk dropsuit guy2&3 dont worry he lost a 1mil isk tank it was worth it.
everyone jumps in the air freezeframe credits |
Noc Tempre
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1170
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Posted - 2012.11.22 05:41:00 -
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Gyrnius wrote:Try using a forge gun :/ They are horribly inaccurate, slow rof, make you an easy target and still take ages to chomp through a good HAV or dropship. Try using an assault variant and properly lead AND time a dropship moving in 3 dimensional space, then cry when it just flies behind a mountain and recharges its shields. How about the breach variant that BOLTS YOU TO THE GROUND before you can actually shoot the charge?
Don't cry about something being op without stepping into their users' shoes for a little.
I've used them. Just like the turrets used to be, not as hard as the defenders make it out to be. I think forge gun damage should go down dramatically, but only after vehicle turrets go down as well. |
Wako 75
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
76
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Posted - 2012.11.22 05:42:00 -
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Noc Tempre wrote:Gyrnius wrote:Try using a forge gun :/ They are horribly inaccurate, slow rof, make you an easy target and still take ages to chomp through a good HAV or dropship. Try using an assault variant and properly lead AND time a dropship moving in 3 dimensional space, then cry when it just flies behind a mountain and recharges its shields. How about the breach variant that BOLTS YOU TO THE GROUND before you can actually shoot the charge?
Don't cry about something being op without stepping into their users' shoes for a little. I've used them. Just like the turrets used to be, not as hard as the defenders make it out to be. I think forge gun damage should go down dramatically, but only after vehicle turrets go down as well.
teamwork ftw |
Veigar Mordekaiser
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
676
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Posted - 2012.11.22 06:19:00 -
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Lazero Dawnedge wrote:I'll give him one word.
No. Actually, that would be six words. |
Wako 75
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
76
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Posted - 2012.11.22 06:28:00 -
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Veigar Mordekaiser wrote:Lazero Dawnedge wrote:I'll give him one word.
No. Actually, that would be six words.
or did he give us 5 and him 1 dun dun dunnnn |
Jotun Hiem
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
412
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Posted - 2012.11.22 06:30:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:Please add a 90 degree cone of fire for forge guns, so it has nothing to do at all with how well you aim. K THX How are you guys even taking this bait? |
Wako 75
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
76
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Posted - 2012.11.22 06:32:00 -
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Jotun Hiem wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:Please add a 90 degree cone of fire for forge guns, so it has nothing to do at all with how well you aim. K THX How are you guys even taking this bait?
because forge guns shot out whip cream evrywhere in nextbuild we want are cream shooters to be accurate
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Jason Pearson
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
742
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Posted - 2012.11.22 08:59:00 -
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lol scrubs "THE FORGE GUN IS IN INACCURATE" You and I both know that's not the case, it's hella easy to use a Forge Gun.. but I've stopped using that now. Railguns are the future of AV. |
Paran Tadec
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
902
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Posted - 2012.11.22 15:44:00 -
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Wako 75 wrote:Jotun Hiem wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:Please add a 90 degree cone of fire for forge guns, so it has nothing to do at all with how well you aim. K THX How are you guys even taking this bait? because forge guns shot out whip cream evrywhere in nextbuild we want are cream shooters to be accurate
Forge gun will now be known as the feather cannon, as to not hurt anyone's feeling. |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
1058
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Posted - 2012.11.22 16:27:00 -
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HowDidThatTaste wrote:I knew this thread was coming.
But please explain why is it that forge guns are now overpowered? My methana took 2 hits from what obviously was a low tier one, before I managed to drive away and casually avoid forge gun fire for the rest of the battle (the railgun mounted on my LAV was still effective during that time) |
Knightshade Belladonna
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
288
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Posted - 2012.11.22 16:39:00 -
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Wako 75 wrote:Elijah Sol' Dzusaki wrote:HowDidThatTaste wrote:I knew this thread was coming.
But please explain why is it that forge guns are now overpowered? Tanks nerf'd now everything else is overpowered. ***** please i could use forge guns efficently before but yes they are op. its not like it ws impossible to take out tanks or dropships before it just took teamwork and skill. comeon really people lets get some teamwork going seriously. yea it sucks getting spawncamed but if people sit there tryin to use frontline starter dont expect to do anything it doesnt take that much sp to get a forge you guys just to lazy to work as a team give up like 300000 sp but no lets just make call of duty whith uavs flying around doing nothing and some free points on wheels. let me put it this way before guy1 guy2}oh **** a tank run away!!! boom dead guy3 now guy1 hey guys hes using a tank look haha. guy2 does he know they nerfed that? guy3 got my forge boom tank dead guy2 did you see he tried to shoot you and couldnt even hit you what a noob. should be guy1 oh **** a tank run away (guy1=noob) Tank driver1 look at the noob boom. noob down guy2&3 lets get our forges while that noob distracts him tankdriver1 ohh noooo forges boom guy 3 dead but got shot off at tank guy2 shoots boom tank dead hell yeah you see that o wait lol you guys are dead. LOGI!!! guy 1 aww man i deied and lost a 50000 isk dropsuit guy2&3 dont worry he lost a 1mil isk tank it was worth it. everyone jumps in the air freezeframe credits
LOL, teamwork is great. Squad I was in lastnight had just about this same scenario lol. Except it was rather odd , we all somehow spawned right beside the tank, like litterally 15-20m from it. Me and one guy had a forge, other guy was in front of the tank. While the tank was shooting for him he got 4 up close and personal forge shots from his side. left him with a smidgen of armor before he even knew wtf was happening, before he could get his main turret turned at us the last shot finished him off. Victory!! It happened so fast, was frikin awesome lol , ****** spawn system actually worked in our favor at tat moment. Think the driver was named YoungGunz , if you see this young.. did that suprise the **** out of you? |
Knightshade Belladonna
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
288
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Posted - 2012.11.22 16:41:00 -
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Jason Pearson wrote:lol scrubs "THE FORGE GUN IS IN INACCURATE" You and I both know that's not the case, it's hella easy to use a Forge Gun.. but I've stopped using that now. Railguns are the future of AV.
hrmmm, yeh... sure |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax.
1216
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Posted - 2012.11.22 16:51:00 -
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Threads about over-nerfed missiles yesterday. Threads about OP Forge Guns today. Obviously no correlation. |
SoTa PoP
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2012.11.22 16:59:00 -
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I'm surprized an Imperfect posted this crap thread. I thought they were suppose to be the best around, obviously one forgot his gun game at the tourny. lol
When I can go 30-0 with a forge gun instead of 10-10 then we'll talk about it being OP. |
Free Beers
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1032
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Posted - 2012.11.22 17:15:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:I'm surprized an Imperfect posted this crap thread. I thought they were suppose to be the best around, obviously one forgot his gun game at the tourny. lol
When I can go 30-0 with a forge gun instead of 10-10 then we'll talk about it being OP.
Winning |
Paran Tadec
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2012.11.22 17:27:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:Threads about over-nerfed missiles yesterday. Threads about OP Forge Guns today. Obviously no correlation.
Have the scrublets figured out that this obvious trolling thread is sucess? |
Knightshade Belladonna
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
288
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Posted - 2012.11.22 17:38:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:Threads about over-nerfed missiles yesterday. Threads about OP Forge Guns today. Obviously no correlation. Have the scrublets figured out that this obvious trolling thread is sucess?
Pretty sure we noticed op was trolling , doesn't mean it can't spin into a whole other thread like 9/10th of every other thread posted :p |
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Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
384
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Posted - 2012.11.22 17:45:00 -
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90 DEGREE IS RIGHT ANGLE, BIG WHOOP WHO THE F*CK DIDN'T ALREADY KNOW ? |
Ludvig Enraga
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
132
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Posted - 2012.11.23 04:05:00 -
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Lmao. Read the post and thought it was a sarcastic one, so I thought it was pretty clever and +1'd it. But then I saw all the other comments and saw it was left by Imperfects and don't think it was a joke anymore. Can any of you play w/o your tank easy mode? |
Paran Tadec
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2012.11.23 04:38:00 -
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Ludvig Enraga wrote:Lmao. Read the post and thought it was a sarcastic one, so I thought it was pretty clever and +1'd it. But then I saw all the other comments and saw it was left by Imperfects and don't think it was a joke anymore. Can any of you play w/o your tank easy mode?
LOL. Trolled yourself did you? |
2-Ton Twenty-One
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2012.11.23 04:54:00 -
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-1 would not bang |
Ted Nugget
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
74
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Posted - 2012.11.23 05:05:00 -
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I just got on to make this topic.... Forge guns are taking out tanks so easily now that you catn take out heavy's with your tank as fast as you need to...... Either reduce the range so they have to get closer or lower the dps..... Being shot and blew up by people hiding in the mountains... forge guns to me are not sniper weapons they are anti vehicle either the splash radius needs to be increase for tank weapons to have an effective counter or lower the amount of damage those things can do.... it is very ridiculous right now... even the playing field for a tank as one forge gunner can take them out so quick or take all vehicles and anti vehicle weapons out and lets go fps stop letting people train into a certain field and then killing what they have trained into deeming it useless.... when you tweak something do it by smaller increments not to the maximum you have screwed me already on the isk gain this week by making what i have to use useless you could have waited til after this event to squish my dreams of making isk |
Gyrnius
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
65
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Posted - 2012.11.23 05:32:00 -
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Ted Nugget wrote:I just got on to make this topic.... Forge guns are taking out tanks so easily now that you catn take out heavy's with your tank as fast as you need to...... Either reduce the range so they have to get closer or lower the dps..... Being shot and blew up by people hiding in the mountains... forge guns to me are not sniper weapons they are anti vehicle either the splash radius needs to be increase for tank weapons to have an effective counter or lower the amount of damage those things can do.... it is very ridiculous right now... even the playing field for a tank as one forge gunner can take them out so quick or take all vehicles and anti vehicle weapons out and lets go fps stop letting people train into a certain field and then killing what they have trained into deeming it useless.... when you tweak something do it by smaller increments not to the maximum you have screwed me already on the isk gain this week by making what i have to use useless you could have waited til after this event to squish my dreams of making isk
Holy mother of run-on sentences!
No. I've specialized in forge guns specifically to make tanks think twice before advancing. Noobs with forge gun ops 1 and a shield extender can't do jack to a real tank with an operator who is aware of what is going on. The tank will eat all 4 rounds of his clip and then regen his shields while the forge gunner reloads. I've specialized in them though - if you die in one clip to me its because I'm gimped for doing anything BUT forge gunning, rolling with nothing in the highs but damage mods and nothing in the lows except cpu enhancers, making me incredibly vulnerable to infantry, never mind the tank itself. In that situation damn straight the forge gun should do some damage.
Forge guns as sniper weapons? If the forge gunner "snipes" he's getting VERY lucky with the shot. There's no way to accurately predict where the shot is going to land with any precision, and if the target is moving its much harder.
In conclusion, tanks and their weapons have finally been brought into line with infantry's ability to engage them. A properly spec'd tank will shrug off poorly-spec'd forge gunners or swarm launchers while a properly spec'd tank is now forced to respect a properly spec'd forge gunner. This has to be the second best change CCP have made to Dust - the first being the remote explosive nerf =) |
Jason Pearson
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
742
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Posted - 2012.11.23 06:59:00 -
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Gyrnius wrote:Ted Nugget wrote:I just got on to make this topic.... Forge guns are taking out tanks so easily now that you catn take out heavy's with your tank as fast as you need to...... Either reduce the range so they have to get closer or lower the dps..... Being shot and blew up by people hiding in the mountains... forge guns to me are not sniper weapons they are anti vehicle either the splash radius needs to be increase for tank weapons to have an effective counter or lower the amount of damage those things can do.... it is very ridiculous right now... even the playing field for a tank as one forge gunner can take them out so quick or take all vehicles and anti vehicle weapons out and lets go fps stop letting people train into a certain field and then killing what they have trained into deeming it useless.... when you tweak something do it by smaller increments not to the maximum you have screwed me already on the isk gain this week by making what i have to use useless you could have waited til after this event to squish my dreams of making isk Holy mother of run-on sentences! No. I've specialized in forge guns specifically to make tanks think twice before advancing. Noobs with forge gun ops 1 and a shield extender can't do jack to a real tank with an operator who is aware of what is going on. The tank will eat all 4 rounds of his clip and then regen his shields while the forge gunner reloads. I've specialized in them though - if you die in one clip to me its because I'm gimped for doing anything BUT forge gunning, rolling with nothing in the highs but damage mods and nothing in the lows except cpu enhancers, making me incredibly vulnerable to infantry, never mind the tank itself. In that situation damn straight the forge gun should do some damage. Forge guns as sniper weapons? If the forge gunner "snipes" he's getting VERY lucky with the shot. There's no way to accurately predict where the shot is going to land with any precision, and if the target is moving its much harder. In conclusion, tanks and their weapons have finally been brought into line with infantry's ability to engage them. A properly spec'd tank will shrug off poorly-spec'd forge gunners or swarm launchers while a properly spec'd tank is now forced to respect a properly spec'd forge gunner. This has to be the second best change CCP have made to Dust - the first being the remote explosive nerf =)
Spec'd into Forge Guns, I think to level 2 for the Assault Forge and it's very easy to kill most tanks, all LAVs and the majority of Dropships. Been practicing with it and I'm killing most Infantry at a Distance, still have to switch to a SMG when they get close. I still think they need adjustments. A Forge Gun can very easily outrange missiles and blasters, Railguns are the only way to "snipe" with a tank now and I can't seem to do that at all :( |
Luther Mandrix
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
53
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Posted - 2012.11.23 09:40:00 -
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LEVEL 5 Forge/Prof has had its range adjusted back .All I use is the forge Gun and ccp has decreased the range already. People that only run forge know this.And we are skilling up our sharpshooter to be able to hit anything.I still miss have the shots I shoot.And a Very Heavy Tank takes more than 4 shots with a grim that has max exdam |
Ted Nugget
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
74
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Posted - 2012.11.23 10:13:00 -
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Luther Mandrix wrote:LEVEL 5 Forge/Prof has had its range adjusted back .All I use is the forge Gun and ccp has decreased the range already. People that only run forge know this.And we are skilling up our sharpshooter to be able to hit anything.I still miss have the shots I shoot.And a Very Heavy Tank takes more than 4 shots with a grim that has max exdam
stop complaining that i want your forge guns to be less effective.... you all complained about my **** so now its my turn to complain until something is done so deal with.... and i will have as many run on sentences as i want to.... i aint applying for no ******* job here |
Enji Elric
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Zombie Ninja Space Bears
176
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Posted - 2012.11.23 10:27:00 -
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I can't believe this trolling is still going on....
good job paran |
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