DUST Search - I want 50% off my AV stuff too CCP

Gyrnius wrote:

ugly nature wrote:

xMarauder wrote:

Gyrnius wrote:

My proto forge gun costs 118k on its own. PLEASE reduce the price of AV stuff to go along with the reductions in vehicles. We need to have a counter for the glut of rollers and fliers we'll surely see...

I know...

Welllll..... Looks like I'm gonna have to use all my isk on dem ishikones now...

You will be getting triple the isk already, vehicles are just a starting base. It takes money to fit them with the right stuff to make them decent enough to take some hits. My cheap fit is about 800k isk, so you will be able to buy 5 150k isk fits to help you counter my tank. Get with some of you corp mates and have fun killing all the vehicles this weekend.

Thing is, you'll go 30/0 for 5 rounds and I'll die 15 times in that same span of time. You'll be able to afford another 2 fit tanks at the end while I will have lost around a million and a half all told. ($200k/suit x 15 = 3m iskies lost while earning approximately 1.5m.) It is horribly imbalanced in favor of you tank whores^Wdrivers

EDIT: Numbers are pre-triple isk as ccp has shown a preternatural ability to mess up even the most trivial of multipliers

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Free Beers Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1032	Posted - 2012.11.20 00:51:00 - [1] - Quote I run 100k to 150k suits if I have to take out tanks or drop ships and lose a **** ton of money doing it. I don't care if you make "changes" between now and then.
Baal Roo Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 810	Posted - 2012.11.20 00:58:00 - [2] - Quote For what it's worth, you're one of the few guys who scare me when I'm in my Eryx.
Chao Wolf Imperfects Negative-Feedback 209	Posted - 2012.11.20 01:05:00 - [3] - Quote Free Beers wrote: I run 100k to 150k suits if I have to take out tanks or drop ships and lose a **** ton of money doing it. I don't care if you make "changes" between now and then. This smells of the wonderful AV nerf a couple months back. Pure genious there. As a fellow AV merc I approve this message.
Icy Tiger Universal Allies Inc. 1026	Posted - 2012.11.20 01:16:00 - [4] - Quote AV is pretty powerful. In the right hands. The whole point of the next week or so is to see how AV reacts to tons of vehicles. You guys are actually pretty damn lucky. Also, ISK will be handed to everyone. Wallet bursting amounts. Enjoy.
Ribbons Reborns Doomheim 68	Posted - 2012.11.20 01:40:00 - [5] - Quote I feel your pain Beers, my Heavy AV suits cost me a lot as well even though its my secondary role. I'm looking forward to the tripled ISK rewards so I can fund those suits a bit more easily. Of course, I hope that when Wednesday rolls around CCP doesn't screw up the multiplier like they did at the start of double SP week y'know? Should be even better practice against all the tanks and derpys that are gonna be around this week.
Free Beers Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1032	Posted - 2012.11.20 01:50:00 - [6] - Quote Baal Roo wrote: For what it's worth, you're one of the few guys who scare me when I'm in my Eryx. You misunderstand me, I said I lose a lot of isk doing it. I wasn't saying I was good
ReGnUM PERFECTION DEI 402	Posted - 2012.11.20 02:00:00 - [7] - Quote Icy Tiger wrote: AV is pretty powerful. In the right hands. The whole point of the next week or so is to see how AV reacts to tons of vehicles. You guys are actually pretty damn lucky. Also, ISK will be handed to everyone. Wallet bursting amounts. Enjoy. You know who is unlucky, the players who decided to choose to spec into ant-infantry roles. The players who get their hands dirty each and everyday. The player who Cap the objectives to win the game. Lastly, the players who risk their lives killing the AV to protect vehicles. CCP HATES US... WHY DOES CCP HATE US
ugg reset ZionTCD Legacy Rising 234	Posted - 2012.11.20 04:01:00 - [8] - Quote ReGnUM PERFECTION DEI wrote: Icy Tiger wrote: AV is pretty powerful. In the right hands. The whole point of the next week or so is to see how AV reacts to tons of vehicles. You guys are actually pretty damn lucky. Also, ISK will be handed to everyone. Wallet bursting amounts. Enjoy. You know who is unlucky, the players who decided to choose to spec into ant-infantry roles. The players who get their hands dirty each and everyday. The player who Cap the objectives to win the game. Lastly, the players who risk their lives killing the AV to protect vehicles. CCP HATES US... WHY DOES CCP HATE US oh don't be a martyr CCP hate's ever one. there motto in EVEGäó is here is a space ship; go f*** ur self. Some people die a lot and some lose a lot more when they die. This game is in a sorry state in terms of what can hurt what. take for example swarms vrs Drop ships and swarms vrs LAVs. a swarm launcher can't even touch a novis DS pilot, but any unskilled (that is to say in in SP) player can keep the streets clear of LAV's with a milita swarm launcher and a nano hive. hop fully we will get more tools soon to deal with this.
Free Beers Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1032	Posted - 2012.11.20 04:14:00 - [9] - Quote ugg reset wrote: ReGnUM PERFECTION DEI wrote: Icy Tiger wrote: AV is pretty powerful. In the right hands. The whole point of the next week or so is to see how AV reacts to tons of vehicles. You guys are actually pretty damn lucky. Also, ISK will be handed to everyone. Wallet bursting amounts. Enjoy. You know who is unlucky, the players who decided to choose to spec into ant-infantry roles. The players who get their hands dirty each and everyday. The player who Cap the objectives to win the game. Lastly, the players who risk their lives killing the AV to protect vehicles. CCP HATES US... WHY DOES CCP HATE US oh don't be a martyr CCP hate's ever one. there motto in EVEGäó is here is a space ship; go f*** ur self. Some people die a lot and some lose a lot more when they die. This game is in a sorry state in terms of what can hurt what. take for example swarms vrs Drop ships and swarms vrs LAVs. a swarm launcher can't even touch a novis DS pilot, but any unskilled (that is to say in in SP) player can keep the streets clear of LAV's with a milita swarm launcher and a nano hive. hop fully we will get more tools soon to deal with this. Saved becuase it is just so damn true.
Gyrnius ZionTCD Legacy Rising 65	Posted - 2012.11.20 05:24:00 - [10] - Quote My proto forge gun costs 118k on its own. PLEASE reduce the price of AV stuff to go along with the reductions in vehicles. We need to have a counter for the glut of rollers and fliers we'll surely see...

xMarauder Doomheim 139	Posted - 2012.11.20 05:47:00 - [11] - Quote Gyrnius wrote: My proto forge gun costs 118k on its own. PLEASE reduce the price of AV stuff to go along with the reductions in vehicles. We need to have a counter for the glut of rollers and fliers we'll surely see... I know... Welllll..... Looks like I'm gonna have to use all my isk on dem ishikones now...
ugly nature ZionTCD Legacy Rising 67	Posted - 2012.11.20 06:12:00 - [12] - Quote xMarauder wrote: Gyrnius wrote: My proto forge gun costs 118k on its own. PLEASE reduce the price of AV stuff to go along with the reductions in vehicles. We need to have a counter for the glut of rollers and fliers we'll surely see... I know... Welllll..... Looks like I'm gonna have to use all my isk on dem ishikones now... You will be getting triple the isk already, vehicles are just a starting base. It takes money to fit them with the right stuff to make them decent enough to take some hits. My cheap fit is about 800k isk, so you will be able to buy 5 150k isk fits to help you counter my tank. Get with some of you corp mates and have fun killing all the vehicles this weekend.
Gyrnius ZionTCD Legacy Rising 65	Posted - 2012.11.20 06:21:00 - [13] - Quote ugly nature wrote: xMarauder wrote: Gyrnius wrote: My proto forge gun costs 118k on its own. PLEASE reduce the price of AV stuff to go along with the reductions in vehicles. We need to have a counter for the glut of rollers and fliers we'll surely see... I know... Welllll..... Looks like I'm gonna have to use all my isk on dem ishikones now... You will be getting triple the isk already, vehicles are just a starting base. It takes money to fit them with the right stuff to make them decent enough to take some hits. My cheap fit is about 800k isk, so you will be able to buy 5 150k isk fits to help you counter my tank. Get with some of you corp mates and have fun killing all the vehicles this weekend. Thing is, you'll go 30/0 for 5 rounds and I'll die 15 times in that same span of time. You'll be able to afford another 2 fit tanks at the end while I will have lost around a million and a half all told. ($200k/suit x 15 = 3m iskies lost while earning approximately 1.5m.) It is horribly imbalanced in favor of you tank whores^Wdrivers EDIT: Numbers are pre-triple isk as ccp has shown a preternatural ability to mess up even the most trivial of multipliers
Free Beers Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1032	Posted - 2012.11.20 06:29:00 - [14] - Quote Gyrnius wrote: ugly nature wrote: xMarauder wrote: Gyrnius wrote: My proto forge gun costs 118k on its own. PLEASE reduce the price of AV stuff to go along with the reductions in vehicles. We need to have a counter for the glut of rollers and fliers we'll surely see... I know... Welllll..... Looks like I'm gonna have to use all my isk on dem ishikones now... You will be getting triple the isk already, vehicles are just a starting base. It takes money to fit them with the right stuff to make them decent enough to take some hits. My cheap fit is about 800k isk, so you will be able to buy 5 150k isk fits to help you counter my tank. Get with some of you corp mates and have fun killing all the vehicles this weekend. Thing is, you'll go 30/0 for 5 rounds and I'll die 15 times in that same span of time. You'll be able to afford another 2 fit tanks at the end while I will have lost around a million and a half all told. ($200k/suit x 15 = 3m iskies lost while earning approximately 1.5m.) It is horribly imbalanced in favor of you tank whores^Wdrivers EDIT: Numbers are pre-triple isk as ccp has shown a preternatural ability to mess up even the most trivial of multipliers This is the truth. I will easily die more then 5 times per tank kill. AV is a money loser.
Baal Roo Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 810	Posted - 2012.11.20 08:19:00 - [15] - Quote Free Beers wrote: Baal Roo wrote: For what it's worth, you're one of the few guys who scare me when I'm in my Eryx. You misunderstand me, I said I lose a lot of isk doing it. I wasn't saying I was good Regardless of how good you are willing to admit to being, and how much ISK you have lost, you've personally cost me a few mil in ISK.
STYLIE77 KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 60	Posted - 2012.11.20 10:27:00 - [16] - Quote Gyrnius wrote: My proto forge gun costs 118k on its own. PLEASE reduce the price of AV stuff to go along with the reductions in vehicles. We need to have a counter for the glut of rollers and fliers we'll surely see... I am going to have a frickin field day on all the noob pilots and drivers...
Mischa Egan Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 13	Posted - 2012.11.20 12:11:00 - [17] - Quote Free Beers wrote: I run 100k to 150k suits if I have to take out tanks or drop ships and lose a **** ton of money doing it. I don't care if you make "changes" between now and then. To be blunt, if you want 50% off moduals, I want it too, all that this boost is saving me is roughly 100k, of my 500-600k tank, you're blowing this outta preportion me thinks, maybe for the bigger tanks, but there aren't many of those kicking around. And one of the most dangerous I've seen is in your group.
EnglishSnake Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 1012	Posted - 2012.11.20 14:26:00 - [18] - Quote Drive a 1.8-2mil tank New changes mean my tank should cost about the price of a sagaris hull with mods included so about 1.3mil which is still quite a price for a glass tank
Maximus Stryker Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 393	Posted - 2012.11.20 14:46:00 - [19] - Quote (yawns and goes back to work)
Wakko03 Better Hide R Die 134	Posted - 2012.11.20 16:33:00 - [20] - Quote Nah, saw it already last night. The framerate lag, the 5 enemy LAV's, the 2 tanks and the 2 dropships, had the framerate at about 5 frames a second.... followed quickly by Killed by Missile. Those of you who are vehicle are just waiting to pounce on those foolish enough to try to take you out. Which is why I am going to drop this little gem here: (I don't know if this has been suggested already, so if it has I apologize to the person who may have posted this already.) Since AV grenades no longer work on Infantry, I say it is high time that vehicles suffer the same effect. Meaning that missles should no longer work on infantry, they should only work against installations and other vehicles.

Tyrus 4 Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 83	Posted - 2012.11.20 16:46:00 - [21] - Quote ReGnUM PERFECTION DEI wrote: Icy Tiger wrote: AV is pretty powerful. In the right hands. The whole point of the next week or so is to see how AV reacts to tons of vehicles. You guys are actually pretty damn lucky. Also, ISK will be handed to everyone. Wallet bursting amounts. Enjoy. You know who is unlucky, the players who decided to choose to spec into ant-infantry roles. The players who get their hands dirty each and everyday. The player who Cap the objectives to win the game. Lastly, the players who risk their lives killing the AV to protect vehicles. CCP HATES US... WHY DOES CCP HATE US but but but... Objectives don't matter. KDR is all that matters. GUNGAME(tm).
Free Beers Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1032	Posted - 2012.11.20 17:00:00 - [22] - Quote Mischa Egan wrote: Free Beers wrote: I run 100k to 150k suits if I have to take out tanks or drop ships and lose a **** ton of money doing it. I don't care if you make "changes" between now and then. To be blunt, if you want 50% off moduals, I want it too, all that this boost is saving me is roughly 100k, of my 500-600k tank, you're blowing this outta preportion me thinks, maybe for the bigger tanks, but there aren't many of those kicking around. And one of the most dangerous I've seen is in your group. 50% of everything is okay with me. That would be fair to everyone. CCP just wants to see first hand how vehicles ruin the game. when I run solo I see a decent amount of vehicles on the other team. when I am on my main and squad with imperfects its like the other team all runs to vehicles. its so lame. since most (not all) blueberries just run and hide from tanks or dropships we have to spend the match killing them and we are the ones losing 150k suits At this point in time only scrub corps run to dropships
Baal Roo Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 810	Posted - 2012.11.21 01:22:00 - [23] - Quote Free Beers wrote: Mischa Egan wrote: Free Beers wrote: I run 100k to 150k suits if I have to take out tanks or drop ships and lose a **** ton of money doing it. I don't care if you make "changes" between now and then. To be blunt, if you want 50% off moduals, I want it too, all that this boost is saving me is roughly 100k, of my 500-600k tank, you're blowing this outta preportion me thinks, maybe for the bigger tanks, but there aren't many of those kicking around. And one of the most dangerous I've seen is in your group. 50% of everything is okay with me. That would be fair to everyone. CCP just wants to see first hand how vehicles ruin the game. when I run solo I see a decent amount of vehicles on the other team. when I am on my main and squad with imperfects its like the other team all runs to vehicles. its so lame. since most (not all) blueberries just run and hide from tanks or dropships we have to spend the match killing them and we are the ones losing 150k suits At this point in time only scrub corps run to dropships I don't say this to be negative, but maybe people run to vehicles because all of you imperfects run 150k+ dropsuits.
Scheneighnay McBob Bojo's School of the Trades 1058	Posted - 2012.11.21 02:39:00 - [24] - Quote Half price vehicles doesn't change the total price by much. Half price AV gear, on the other hand, makes it much much more threatening.
KripnawtiQ Prime L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 206	Posted - 2012.11.21 12:06:00 - [25] - Quote Good call beers. AV is a big enough pain as it is. Now we will have FLEETS of vehicles. Idk bout others but tend to die more running AV Seems like nobody wants to cover the guy holding the forge gun with his pekker in the wind
Skihids Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising 969	Posted - 2012.11.21 14:05:00 - [26] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: Half price vehicles doesn't change the total price by much. Half price AV gear, on the other hand, makes it much much more threatening. Effectively one third price AV gear with the ISK boost, and the ISK and skill free swarm launcher just got buffed. And as I predicted elsewhere, CCP takes away with one hand as it gives with the other. The missile nerf hurts the dropship far more than half off hulls helps it.


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