DUST Search - Guessing we won't get a new build until after the 26th

Fivetimes Infinity wrote:

michael McG wrote:

my question is why are we one still in beta and closed beta at that. Planetside 2 has already closed there beta and launching tomorrow. why is it taking so long.

Planetside 2 was patched very quickly and effectively. Major changes were made to the game since the beta opened this summer. It started as an unplayable pile of crap, and now runs really well (for most people with decent computers) and a lot of new content and other changes were added. Dust hasn't made anywhere close to the kind of progress Planetside 2 has. Maybe there's a ton of stuff behind the scenes CCP is doing that they aren't releasing in their builds. Maybe being on the PS3 just means that patches are invariably slow to do. I don't know. Either way there's been a major difference between the speed of development for both games.

Not to say Planetside 2 is perfect, and Dust has more promise in the long-term, just that there's been a really obvious difference between the two in terms of how frequent and how meaningful updates are.

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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 3064	Posted - 2012.11.19 11:36:00 - [1] - Quote Since that is when the new event ends...
daniel philp Algintal Core Gallente Federation 158	Posted - 2012.11.19 11:51:00 - [2] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Since that is when the new even ends... What O.o?
Captain-Awesome Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 349	Posted - 2012.11.19 12:19:00 - [3] - Quote I still think new build mid december. we are still in november. we had new build 1st of october. that's 7 weeks ago. each build has been roughly 2-3 months. put yo tears in my batman cup, hand it back when it's at least half full.
D'Finn Rhedlyne Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 266	Posted - 2012.11.19 12:25:00 - [4] - Quote I would be surprise if we see a new build before the end of the year. Although, it has been rather quiet of late. The calm before the proverbial forum storm, so to speak!
Captain-Awesome Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 349	Posted - 2012.11.19 12:29:00 - [5] - Quote D'Finn Rhedlyne wrote: I would be surprise if we see a new build before the end of the year. Although, it has been rather quiet of late. The calm before the proverbial forum storm, so to speak! it's happened every build, goes quiet then new build. at least this build is playable and more playable as the numbers dwindle ;)
Gawdbotherer Doomheim 6	Posted - 2012.11.19 12:40:00 - [6] - Quote Tomorrow's Maintainance, Just in time for the ISK Boost, and Just before the tank spam. Fingers Crossed
D'Finn Rhedlyne Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 266	Posted - 2012.11.19 12:43:00 - [7] - Quote Captain-Awesome wrote: D'Finn Rhedlyne wrote: I would be surprise if we see a new build before the end of the year. Although, it has been rather quiet of late. The calm before the proverbial forum storm, so to speak! it's happened every build, goes quiet then new build. at least this build is playable and more playable as the numbers dwindle ;) Scratch my previous comment... Cmdr Wang has posted today new update 'Very Soon', that's better than Soon (tm)
Needless Sacermendor Red Fox Brigade 208	Posted - 2012.11.19 12:56:00 - [8] - Quote D'Finn Rhedlyne wrote: Captain-Awesome wrote: D'Finn Rhedlyne wrote: I would be surprise if we see a new build before the end of the year. Although, it has been rather quiet of late. The calm before the proverbial forum storm, so to speak! it's happened every build, goes quiet then new build. at least this build is playable and more playable as the numbers dwindle ;) Scratch my previous comment... Commader Wang has posted today new build 'Very Soon', that's better than Soon (tm) Yeah ... not found Cmdr Wang's thread yet ... but new builds have been roughly 6 weeks apart, not 2-3 months ... so we're about due leaving the following one sometime into middle of January or a little later giving them some time after holidays to recover and reorganise.
Captain-Awesome Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 349	Posted - 2012.11.19 13:02:00 - [9] - Quote Needless Sacermendor wrote: Yeah ... not found Cmdr Wang's thread yet ... but new builds have been roughly 6 weeks apart, not 2-3 months ... so we're about due leaving the following one sometime into middle of January or a little later giving them some time after holidays to recover and reorganise. E3 build was july 27, precursor end of august, Codex build was october 2nd. so between 5-6 weeks
KryptixX Imperfects Negative-Feedback 320	Posted - 2012.11.19 13:21:00 - [10] - Quote Captain-Awesome wrote: Needless Sacermendor wrote: Yeah ... not found Cmdr Wang's thread yet ... but new builds have been roughly 6 weeks apart, not 2-3 months ... so we're about due leaving the following one sometime into middle of January or a little later giving them some time after holidays to recover and reorganise. E3 build was july 27, Codex build was october 2nd. You do the math. There was one in between. Precursor?

Rains Akkadian BetaMax. 28	Posted - 2012.11.19 13:22:00 - [11] - Quote Captain-Awesome wrote: Needless Sacermendor wrote: Yeah ... not found Cmdr Wang's thread yet ... but new builds have been roughly 6 weeks apart, not 2-3 months ... so we're about due leaving the following one sometime into middle of January or a little later giving them some time after holidays to recover and reorganise. E3 build was july 27, Codex build was october 2nd. You do the math. You are forgetting the Precursor release.
Captain-Awesome Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 349	Posted - 2012.11.19 13:25:00 - [12] - Quote fail, precursor was end of aug, I appologise, post edited
michael McG Doomheim 28	Posted - 2012.11.19 13:30:00 - [13] - Quote my question is why are we one still in beta and closed beta at that. Planetside 2 has already closed there beta and launching tomorrow. why is it taking so long.
LT Dans Legs Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising 72	Posted - 2012.11.19 13:40:00 - [14] - Quote Because Planetside isnt connecting two different games on different consoles. Thats never been done. We are making history here.
D'Finn Rhedlyne Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 266	Posted - 2012.11.19 13:43:00 - [15] - Quote michael McG wrote: my question is why are we one still in beta and closed beta at that. Planetside 2 has already closed there beta and launching tomorrow. why is it taking so long. CCP's first attempt at a FPS, couple that with the interactivity with EVE then factor in that, they are programming on the PS3 (which is not the easiest) and you have your answer.
Captain-Awesome Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 349	Posted - 2012.11.19 13:44:00 - [16] - Quote michael McG wrote: my question is why are we one still in beta and closed beta at that. Planetside 2 has already closed there beta and launching tomorrow. why is it taking so long. they are 2 seperate games on 2 seperate platforms. we have sony to QA our builds before they can be released which adds a huge delay of weeks onto it. on top of that CCP has 2 with limited resources to manage.... do you know when planet side first got its beta out compared to ccp? or at what stage they released it to beta? You can't compare.
Needless Sacermendor Red Fox Brigade 208	Posted - 2012.11.19 18:32:00 - [17] - Quote Captain-Awesome wrote: fail, precursor was end of aug, I appologise, post edited Lol, no worries ... even the builds before E3 (whatever they were called I forget) were around the 6 week mark ... seems to be a decent time for them to work on stuff and US to test stuff (before the cap - to the limits) but now I guess that's why we won't be seeing a character wipe, so we can reach the higher tier stuff on mass and see how it unfolds. I think there's enough answers to michael ... we are breaking new ground, CCP is restricted by Sony's approval and planetside 2 is a Sony game ... not sure they're going to rush things through for CCP to bring out a better free version of something they want to sell (am I right in thinking planetside isn't free2play ?)
michael McG Doomheim 28	Posted - 2012.11.19 20:56:00 - [18] - Quote I understand what you all are saying its just getting late in the year and they still have not put out the game. they are loosing fans left and right. It sucks cause im a huge fan of eve and dust and i have been beta playing since April and i really want to see the other part of dust. I just want CCP to release the game cause i dont want to loose my guy anymore.
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 1849	Posted - 2012.11.19 21:22:00 - [19] - Quote michael McG wrote: I understand what you all are saying its just getting late in the year and they still have not put out the game. Probably because it's not due out until next year... Quote: they are loosing fans left and right. They're LOSING (not "loosing") people who keep coming back every build to see what's changed. Meaning they're not really losing anything. Quote: It sucks cause im a huge fan of eve and dust and i have been beta playing since April and i really want to see the other part of dust. I just want CCP to release the game cause i dont want to loose my guy anymore. By "the other part of DUST", you mean what exactly? There are a LOT of elements that we're yet to see - in beta or otherwise.
Maken Tosch Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 1591	Posted - 2012.11.19 21:39:00 - [20] - Quote michael McG wrote: I understand what you all are saying its just getting late in the year and they still have not put out the game. they are loosing fans left and right. It sucks cause im a huge fan of eve and dust and i have been beta playing since April and i really want to see the other part of dust. I just want CCP to release the game cause i dont want to loose my guy anymore. I take it you didn't hear the news about CCP delaying the open beta until sometime in 2013? Not only that, CCP use to develop DUST using their own game engine, but complications arose that forced CCP to switch over to unreal and start over.

Fivetimes Infinity Immobile Infantry 1086	Posted - 2012.11.19 21:39:00 - [21] - Quote michael McG wrote: my question is why are we one still in beta and closed beta at that. Planetside 2 has already closed there beta and launching tomorrow. why is it taking so long. Planetside 2 was patched very quickly and effectively. Major changes were made to the game since the beta opened this summer. It started as an unplayable pile of crap, and now runs really well (for most people with decent computers) and a lot of new content and other changes were added. Dust hasn't made anywhere close to the kind of progress Planetside 2 has. Maybe there's a ton of stuff behind the scenes CCP is doing that they aren't releasing in their builds. Maybe being on the PS3 just means that patches are invariably slow to do. I don't know. Either way there's been a major difference between the speed of development for both games. Not to say Planetside 2 is perfect, and Dust has more promise in the long-term, just that there's been a really obvious difference between the two in terms of how frequent and how meaningful updates are.
xMarauder Doomheim 139	Posted - 2012.11.19 22:03:00 - [22] - Quote I have a question regarding whether or not there will be a reset. Personally I want a reset but there have been some saying there won't be one. Any confirmation ?
Maken Tosch Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 1591	Posted - 2012.11.20 00:57:00 - [23] - Quote xMarauder wrote: I have a question regarding whether or not there will be a reset. Personally I want a reset but there have been some saying there won't be one. Any confirmation ? there may not be a wipe considering much of the changes on the next update are focused on fixing bugs and balancing issues.
Necandi Brasil Conspiratus Immortalis 245	Posted - 2012.11.20 01:09:00 - [24] - Quote LT Dans Legs wrote: Because Planetside isnt connecting two different games on different consoles. Thats never been done. We are making history here. ^ This ... It's a task never done before ... let's have some patience
michael McG Doomheim 28	Posted - 2012.11.24 22:22:00 - [25] - Quote no it has been done before. Sony did it with final fantasy 11 every system could connect to it.
Laurent Cazaderon Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 1155	Posted - 2012.11.24 23:24:00 - [26] - Quote michael McG wrote: no it has been done before. Sony did it with final fantasy 11 every system could connect to it. Hiw is linking same game on different platform same as linking TWO different games running on different engines andxgameplay on two diferent platform ? Oo
Scheneighnay McBob Bojo's School of the Trades 1058	Posted - 2012.11.25 00:04:00 - [27] - Quote I have a feeling it'll be december 3rd. Why? Late on sunday, the final "tester's tournament unlock" concept art/wallpaper will be released. Since it's the final one, you can bet it'll be showing something BIG. That'll give us a week to speculate on it before BAM! It's released.
LT Dans Legs Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising 72	Posted - 2012.11.25 17:46:00 - [28] - Quote Although I am ready for the next build, I am glad that this build is playable compared to Precursor. So I shall keep grinding and be patient. Its not like theres any other game Id rather play.
J'Jor Da'Wg KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 648	Posted - 2012.11.25 21:21:00 - [29] - Quote Really hoping for a new game mode, new corp features, upgraded player counts, more maps, etc. in next build. And of course, new guns and equipment. Not just variations, but stuff like the scrambler rifle and the minmatarr pistol. Maybe even racial variants of the suits, and the pilot, and crusader suit? MAYBE commander mode with MCC control!? Thats asking too much to hope for though.
Goat of Dover Shadow Company HQ 161	Posted - 2012.11.25 21:30:00 - [30] - Quote J'Jor Da'Wg wrote: Really hoping for a new game mode, new corp features, upgraded player counts, more maps, etc. in next build. And of course, new guns and equipment. Not just variations, but stuff like the scrambler rifle and the minmatarr pistol. Maybe even racial variants of the suits, and the pilot, and crusader suit? MAYBE commander mode with MCC control!? Thats asking too much to hope for though. I would love to see most of this in the next build. My only thing is if they release pilot suits I want something to really pilot or the ability to fly a drop ship like a drop ship so some kind of communication there. I would love to see crusader and commander role though. With these though I would like to see a reset so you can go into it fresh. Yes scrambler rifle and the gauss rifle would be awesome. Then another side arm would be sweet to.

Goat of Dover Shadow Company HQ 161	Posted - 2012.11.25 21:33:00 - [31] - Quote Fivetimes Infinity wrote: michael McG wrote: my question is why are we one still in beta and closed beta at that. Planetside 2 has already closed there beta and launching tomorrow. why is it taking so long. Planetside 2 was patched very quickly and effectively. Major changes were made to the game since the beta opened this summer. It started as an unplayable pile of crap, and now runs really well (for most people with decent computers) and a lot of new content and other changes were added. Dust hasn't made anywhere close to the kind of progress Planetside 2 has. Maybe there's a ton of stuff behind the scenes CCP is doing that they aren't releasing in their builds. Maybe being on the PS3 just means that patches are invariably slow to do. I don't know. Either way there's been a major difference between the speed of development for both games. Not to say Planetside 2 is perfect, and Dust has more promise in the long-term, just that there's been a really obvious difference between the two in terms of how frequent and how meaningful updates are. You can point out the difference in time from beta to game. You just have to take into account, planet side had some history in shooter and a good history at that. CCP is building a game that is very new in ways to us gamers and very new in ways to them as developers. Not to say you are wrong for pointing this out just it really shines a bad light on dust and a good light on planet side. Not to say that PS2 does not deserve any good comments it gets just point out all the facts when you compare things in this manner.
Tyrus 4 Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 83	Posted - 2012.11.25 23:54:00 - [32] - Quote michael McG wrote: no it has been done before. Sony did it with final fantasy 11 every system could connect to it. First of, FF 11 was Square Enix, not sony. Second, i dont think you completely understand what is going on wit eve and dust.


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