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Russkaya Smert 38	Posted - 2012.11.15 11:00:00 - [1] - Quote Anyone else feel bad for using nothing but a scrambler pistol and taking out multiple targets before being dropped? Its just wrong, but feels so right. Side note, heavies with light machine guns run virtually unopposed by infantry. Im guessing sloppy teamwork is to blame.
Reout Karaal Doomheim 85	Posted - 2012.11.15 11:01:00 - [2] - Quote Russkaya Smert wrote: Anyone else feel bad for using nothing but a scrambler pistol and taking out multiple targets before being dropped? Its just wrong, but feels so right. Side note, heavies with light machine guns run virtually unopposed by infantry. Im guessing sloppy teamwork is to blame. Nope, same with militia shotgun. If I can run my militia assault/scout through your team and kill everybody in one clip -- your fault. :)
Mobius Kaethis Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 306	Posted - 2012.11.15 13:25:00 - [3] - Quote Both of these are true. It really isn't that hard to take out players using any of these play types (HMG Heavy, solo scrambler, Shotty MoFo) if players are willing to use their heads. In the case of the play styles you two have talked about the trick really is open space and distance between you and the target for soloing these players and with a team all you have to do is call them out and target them together. Being able to be rocked by a solo scrambler just means that the blueberries are A) not thinking while they play and B) not coordinating (a common blueberry issue).
Icy Tiger Universal Allies Inc. 1026	Posted - 2012.11.15 13:42:00 - [4] - Quote I love using Scramblers, especially on heavies who can't move away from constant head shots. I also use the Advanced one.
ReGnUm UNSTOPPABLE DEI Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 80	Posted - 2012.11.15 13:53:00 - [5] - Quote WOW all the above posters sound really good! Multi kills with pistol head shots, and 1v16 shotgun killing sprees... with ONE SINGLE CLIP! My Eyes must be closed when I play because I thought 99% of the player base was... DERP
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 1849	Posted - 2012.11.15 15:49:00 - [6] - Quote ReGnUm UNSTOPPABLE DEI wrote: WOW all the above posters sound really good! Multi kills with pistol head shots, and 1v16 shotgun killing sprees... with ONE SINGLE CLIP! My Eyes must be closed when I play because I thought 99% of the player base was... DERP Most of the derp players are so derp they can't find their way to the forums, so while 99% of the playerbase ARE that bad, the majority of the forums are the 1% Except me, apparently. I'm just lol. Also, it's a mag, not a clip. And not a MAG either. That's a completely different game.
ReGnUm UNSTOPPABLE DEI Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 80	Posted - 2012.11.15 15:51:00 - [7] - Quote Garrett Blacknova wrote: ReGnUm UNSTOPPABLE DEI wrote: WOW all the above posters sound really good! Multi kills with pistol head shots, and 1v16 shotgun killing sprees... with ONE SINGLE CLIP! My Eyes must be closed when I play because I thought 99% of the player base was... DERP Most of the derp players are so derp they can't find their way to the forums, so while 99% of the playerbase ARE that bad, the majority of the forums are the 1% Except me, apparently. I'm just lol. Also, it's a mag, not a clip. And not a MAG either. That's a completely different game. LOL
Henry FitzEmpress Reaper Galactic 22	Posted - 2012.11.15 16:37:00 - [8] - Quote ReGnUm UNSTOPPABLE DEI wrote: WOW all the above posters sound really good! Multi kills with pistol head shots, and 1v16 shotgun killing sprees... with ONE SINGLE CLIP! My Eyes must be closed when I play because I thought 99% of the player base was... DERP Once Dust implements a complete stat tracker/Battlelog type website, 95% of the types of posts you mention will disappear. Until then, the boasting and tall tails will continue! To be fair, the boasting will probably continue after, but with full stats you can dismiss mercs who don't have the skills to back it up.
Tyrus 4 Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 83	Posted - 2012.11.15 18:54:00 - [9] - Quote William H Bonney from Imperfects is the best Pistol shot I have ever seen in this game. Note, that while there may be better than him, I have not seen them in match.
Tyrus 4 Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 83	Posted - 2012.11.15 18:58:00 - [10] - Quote Henry FitzEmpress wrote: ReGnUm UNSTOPPABLE DEI wrote: WOW all the above posters sound really good! Multi kills with pistol head shots, and 1v16 shotgun killing sprees... with ONE SINGLE CLIP! My Eyes must be closed when I play because I thought 99% of the player base was... DERP Once Dust implements a complete stat tracker/Battlelog type website, 95% of the types of posts you mention will disappear. Until then, the boasting and tall tails will continue! To be fair, the boasting will probably continue after, but with full stats you can dismiss mercs who don't have the skills to back it up. "Men lie, Women lie...Numbers don't." - Jay-z. That said, what someone boasts about themselves is meaningless. What other people boast about them, is what I pay attention to.

Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 1849	Posted - 2012.11.15 19:33:00 - [11] - Quote Tyrus 4 wrote: "Men lie, Women lie...Numbers don't." - Jay-z. Numbers don't lie, but they also don't tell the whole story. And people using numbers can lie all they want. Remember, 67.95% of all statistics are made up. It's a number. Numbers don't lie, so it must be true, right? But according to its own logic, it has less than a 50% chance of being true. Mind blown yet? Also, why is Jay-Z being cited as a valid source? For ANYTHING?
Tyrus 4 Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 83	Posted - 2012.11.15 19:45:00 - [12] - Quote Garrett Blacknova wrote: Tyrus 4 wrote: "Men lie, Women lie...Numbers don't." - Jay-z. Numbers don't lie, but they also don't tell the whole story. And people using numbers can lie all they want. Remember, 67.95% of all statistics are made up. It's a number. Numbers don't lie, so it must be true, right? But according to its own logic, it has less than a 50% chance of being true. Mind blown yet? Also, why is Jay-Z being cited as a valid source? For ANYTHING? Why so serious?
Blunt Smkr Doomheim 62	Posted - 2012.11.15 19:59:00 - [13] - Quote Pistol is old news used it last build can be op if u can aim cause headshots can easily 1shot someone but small clip though. An shotguns are just stupid no reason a militia can 1shot someone. I could see the proto or advance but really wats the point in specin into shotguns when the militia one that cost no sp to use can 1 shot people oh well.
Talos Alomar Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 391	Posted - 2012.11.15 20:15:00 - [14] - Quote Russkaya Smert wrote: Anyone else feel bad for using nothing but a scrambler pistol and taking out multiple targets before being dropped? Its just wrong, but feels so right. Side note, heavies with light machine guns run virtually unopposed by infantry. Im guessing sloppy teamwork is to blame. not at all. the scrambler pistol gets 450% bonus versus headshots with shields and 300% vs just armor. using the basic pistol with 70 dmg that puts it to 315 to shields and 210 versus armor. that's enough to one shot scouts, and maybe Assaults and logis depending on if they have stacked shields and very low armor. heavies take a few shots, but the pistol fires quick so i've stood my ground versus a HMG and lived a time or two with the scrambler.
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 1849	Posted - 2012.11.15 20:18:00 - [15] - Quote Blunt Smkr wrote: Pistol is old news used it last build can be op if u can aim cause headshots can easily 1shot someone but small clip though. An shotguns are just stupid no reason a militia can 1shot someone. I could see the proto or advance but really wats the point in specin into shotguns when the militia one that cost no sp to use can 1 shot people oh well. Competently-tanked Assaults or Logis can't be taken down in one hit by Militia gear. With the right skills you don't even need to tank yourself too heavily. And you can't one-shot even a Militia Scout with a Militia Shotgun if they're out of arm's reach unless you skill into them to buff your accuracy.
Oxskull Duncarino Shadow Company HQ 164	Posted - 2012.11.15 20:25:00 - [16] - Quote Garrett Blacknova wrote: ReGnUm UNSTOPPABLE DEI wrote: WOW all the above posters sound really good! Multi kills with pistol head shots, and 1v16 shotgun killing sprees... with ONE SINGLE CLIP! My Eyes must be closed when I play because I thought 99% of the player base was... DERP Most of the derp players are so derp they can't find their way to the forums, so while 99% of the playerbase ARE that bad, the majority of the forums are the 1% Except me, apparently. I'm just lol. Also, it's a mag, not a clip. And not a MAG either. That's a completely different game. Wiped due to brain fart
Blunt Smkr Doomheim 62	Posted - 2012.11.15 20:38:00 - [17] - Quote Garrett Blacknova wrote: Blunt Smkr wrote: Pistol is old news used it last build can be op if u can aim cause headshots can easily 1shot someone but small clip though. An shotguns are just stupid no reason a militia can 1shot someone. I could see the proto or advance but really wats the point in specin into shotguns when the militia one that cost no sp to use can 1 shot people oh well. Competently-tanked Assaults or Logis can't be taken down in one hit by Militia gear. With the right skills you don't even need to tank yourself too heavily. And you can't one-shot even a Militia Scout with a Militia Shotgun if they're out of arm's reach unless you skill into them to buff your accuracy. Al i know is i've been in a basic dropsuit with like 165 shield n 209 armor n got 1 shoted by a militia shotgun. I guess i just dont understand the damage system in this game yet. Cause when u look up the militia shotgun it says it does 35hp of damage.so how does it work? cause i'm confused lol
Tyrus 4 Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 83	Posted - 2012.11.15 20:43:00 - [18] - Quote Blunt Smkr wrote: Garrett Blacknova wrote: Blunt Smkr wrote: Pistol is old news used it last build can be op if u can aim cause headshots can easily 1shot someone but small clip though. An shotguns are just stupid no reason a militia can 1shot someone. I could see the proto or advance but really wats the point in specin into shotguns when the militia one that cost no sp to use can 1 shot people oh well. Competently-tanked Assaults or Logis can't be taken down in one hit by Militia gear. With the right skills you don't even need to tank yourself too heavily. And you can't one-shot even a Militia Scout with a Militia Shotgun if they're out of arm's reach unless you skill into them to buff your accuracy. Al i know is i've been in a basic dropsuit with like 165 shield n 209 armor n got 1 shoted by a militia shotgun. I guess i just dont understand the damage system in this game yet. Cause when u look up the militia shotgun it says it does 35hp of damage.so how does it work? cause i'm confused lol Shotguns fire multiple pellets at once that rapidly spread out over distance. that 35hp is 35hp per pellet. thats why a point blank shot hits so hard. you get hit wit every pellet.
Talos Alomar Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 391	Posted - 2012.11.15 20:48:00 - [19] - Quote Blunt Smkr wrote: Garrett Blacknova wrote: Blunt Smkr wrote: Pistol is old news used it last build can be op if u can aim cause headshots can easily 1shot someone but small clip though. An shotguns are just stupid no reason a militia can 1shot someone. I could see the proto or advance but really wats the point in specin into shotguns when the militia one that cost no sp to use can 1 shot people oh well. Competently-tanked Assaults or Logis can't be taken down in one hit by Militia gear. With the right skills you don't even need to tank yourself too heavily. And you can't one-shot even a Militia Scout with a Militia Shotgun if they're out of arm's reach unless you skill into them to buff your accuracy. Al i know is i've been in a basic dropsuit with like 165 shield n 209 armor n got 1 shoted by a militia shotgun. I guess i just dont understand the damage system in this game yet. Cause when u look up the militia shotgun it says it does 35hp of damage.so how does it work? cause i'm confused lol its odd how the damage is displayed. all i can assume is that its 35 dmg a pellet/individual plasma bolt. seems like its at least 10-12 times higher than the base damage displayed so that's at least what i assume.
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 1849	Posted - 2012.11.15 21:33:00 - [20] - Quote Blunt Smkr wrote: Garrett Blacknova wrote: Blunt Smkr wrote: Pistol is old news used it last build can be op if u can aim cause headshots can easily 1shot someone but small clip though. An shotguns are just stupid no reason a militia can 1shot someone. I could see the proto or advance but really wats the point in specin into shotguns when the militia one that cost no sp to use can 1 shot people oh well. Competently-tanked Assaults or Logis can't be taken down in one hit by Militia gear. With the right skills you don't even need to tank yourself too heavily. And you can't one-shot even a Militia Scout with a Militia Shotgun if they're out of arm's reach unless you skill into them to buff your accuracy. Al i know is i've been in a basic dropsuit with like 165 shield n 209 armor n got 1 shoted by a militia shotgun. I guess i just dont understand the damage system in this game yet. Cause when u look up the militia shotgun it says it does 35hp of damage.so how does it work? cause i'm confused lol Shotguns fire a spread of pellets with each pull of the trigger. The individual pellets are 35 damage each as a base, so they don't hurt much, until you have Weaponry and Shotgun Prof skilled up, and/or a Damage Mod. The main problem is that, while you have high POTENTIAL damage, if you don't have the SPs invested in Shotgun Operations, you have to pretty much be in melee range to hit with that full strength.

crazy space ZionTCD Legacy Rising 879	Posted - 2012.11.15 21:46:00 - [21] - Quote in next build I'm going to burst scrambler, and the new minmatar pistol at the same time.
William HBonney Imperfects Negative-Feedback 318	Posted - 2012.11.16 00:01:00 - [22] - Quote Unless there is a change next build don't bother with the burst


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