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Konohamaru Sarutobi
Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising
91
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Posted - 2012.11.15 04:16:00 -
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So spamming and boring. Getting sleepy |
Konohamaru Sarutobi
Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising
91
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Posted - 2012.11.15 04:20:00 -
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Mmm yes, this is awesome for new players. I'm sure they will love the game after this match. Getting shoots from 3 tanks, eating orbital strikes. The game at this point, is so atractive for people who start to play it. |
Konohamaru Sarutobi
Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising
91
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Posted - 2012.11.15 04:22:00 -
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The best "beta" balance system i've never see |
Konohamaru Sarutobi
Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising
91
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Posted - 2012.11.15 04:26:00 -
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Yes, i shoot to the sky and get kill by one of them. I felt so bad for them, maybe a kill will make that guy feel a little more happy and will keep playing |
Konohamaru Sarutobi
Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising
91
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Posted - 2012.11.15 04:31:00 -
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even when i saw The Notebook, I didn't feel so sad, these poor guys, jumping from their CMM with tanks waiting for them. I guess hope is the last that you lose. I think I won't see them again playing Dust. Ups the match is over. Let's see if the next is funnier. See you |
Nicol Bolas Planeswalker
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
102
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Posted - 2012.11.15 04:47:00 -
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What is this schizoid thread? OP only thread? It's going to happen. I was in a game like this today and I killed a tank and a derpship with my forge gun. You learn to live with it. Should New players honestly expect to go toe to toe with whomever they so chose right away? I was new once. I didn't try and melee tanks to death. Not more than once anyways. |
Grenwal Hiesenberg
Shadow Company HQ
225
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Posted - 2012.11.15 04:51:00 -
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Funny, i just lost a match where we were vs. 3 tanks. Tried forge and swarms without much help from the other blues,we were winning the battle but severly bleeding clones until we were redlined about two thirds in. I was playing with a random player for a few rounds and we were both thinking WTF, first to spawn three tanks wins! Great fun... |
Konohamaru Sarutobi
Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising
91
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Posted - 2012.11.15 04:54:00 -
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Grenwal Hiesenberg wrote:Funny, i just lost a match where we were vs. 3 tanks. Tried forge and swarms without much help from the other blues,we were winning the battle but severly bleeding clones until we were redlined about two thirds in. I was playing with a random player for a few rounds and we were both thinking WTF, first to spawn three tanks wins! Great fun...
Hahaha i know, you end in the first position i think with what? 3-12? I just get 2-2 Tanks stole me all the kills so i wrote a story |
Anuliadon Gortusk
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
26
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Posted - 2012.11.15 06:39:00 -
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Yeah just got **** on by 2 tanks....was exciting. lost by 50 kills in an ambush game. |
Umbat Boki
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
157
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Posted - 2012.11.15 07:17:00 -
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The problem imo isn't in tank/AV. If two teams consist of mercs who can afford spawning tanks, I think it's fine. If two teams consist of poor mercs who can't afford tanks nor proto-gear, it's also seems fine.
This bring us to matchmaking system. CCP has said that they are measuring "skill" of a player and matchmaking is based on it. However, I don't believe it's possible. One day a player uses proto gear and tanks in a full squad, next day he uses militia gear without friends in a squad. The effectiveness of that player will be quite different.
Another thing is that, as far as I know, corp battles doesn't provide SP. 0.0 battles probably won't provide SP either. Therefore corps will have to farm random guinea pigs. |
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The dark cloud
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
1060
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Posted - 2012.11.15 08:38:00 -
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this game aint fair if you are fed up getting hammered you better search yourself a decent corp otherwise you will never experience good teamwork. Just a heads up what a random (blueberry) is thinking: -Why should i use AV? My Ar skills will somehow get rid off that tank! (Sagaris turns around and shots missiles) -Why should i hack back a objective? I dont get any points from that. -(ambush map with CRU) Oh look my team is all around the enemy CRU and getting kills just so that i can hack it and we have a spawn point yay 50 WP . (when friendly fire is enabled these guys will get shot on sight) -Oh look that guy got killed and has some weird icon on it. What should i do? Oh yeah right lets throw a nano hive at his head that will help. -Taking a objective? You crazy?! Im gonna sit on top off that mountain with my sniper rifle to pad my K/D. - Why cant my Sica take out that tank called a "sagaris"? Ive put 300.000 ISK into it that was very expensive. - 2vs1 gunnfight (you + blueberry vs 1 enemy): You start shoting the enemy and the blueberry shrieks and runs away. - A 2 million ISK sagaris gets called in and the blueberry steals it and gets destroyed cause he has no clue how to handle it. |
Umbat Boki
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
157
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Posted - 2012.11.15 09:40:00 -
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The dark cloud wrote:this game aint fair if you are fed up getting hammered you better search yourself a decent corp otherwise you will never experience good teamwork. Just a heads up what a random (blueberry) is thinking: -Why should i use AV? My Ar skills will somehow get rid off that tank! (Sagaris turns around and shots missiles) -Why should i hack back a objective? I dont get any points from that. -(ambush map with CRU) Oh look my team is all around the enemy CRU and getting kills just so that i can hack it and we have a spawn point yay 50 WP . (when friendly fire is enabled these guys will get shot on sight) -Oh look that guy got killed and has some weird icon on it. What should i do? Oh yeah right lets throw a nano hive at his head that will help. -Taking a objective? You crazy?! Im gonna sit on top off that mountain with my sniper rifle to pad my K/D. - Why cant my Sica take out that tank called a "sagaris"? Ive put 300.000 ISK into it that was very expensive. - 2vs1 gunnfight (you + blueberry vs 1 enemy): You start shoting the enemy and the blueberry shrieks and runs away. - A 2 million ISK sagaris gets called in and the blueberry steals it and gets destroyed cause he has no clue how to handle it.
I'm corpless and none of this statement except one is correct for me. I don't like spawn killer so I'll hack that CRU .
About you AV statement: I use swarm launcher (can't afford forge) time to time. However every time I use it, I understand that most of the time I'll run around trying to kill someone with SMG and rarely there will appear some vehicle which I can shoot some rockets. This means that I won't get as much SP and ISK as I can with AR.
I don't snipe, but I understand that when your team is redlined, sniping is your way to get some SP/ISK.
What I mean is that randoms are randoms. They will be worse than a team full of corps squads. However, a game can be designed to allow even randoms to have fun. "You should join a corp" is a cheap excuse for those who gave up designing something better. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
1849
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Posted - 2012.11.15 11:33:00 -
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Umbat Boki wrote:The dark cloud wrote:this game aint fair if you are fed up getting hammered you better search yourself a decent corp otherwise you will never experience good teamwork. Just a heads up what a random (blueberry) is thinking: -Why should i use AV? My Ar skills will somehow get rid off that tank! (Sagaris turns around and shots missiles) -Why should i hack back a objective? I dont get any points from that. -(ambush map with CRU) Oh look my team is all around the enemy CRU and getting kills just so that i can hack it and we have a spawn point yay 50 WP . (when friendly fire is enabled these guys will get shot on sight) -Oh look that guy got killed and has some weird icon on it. What should i do? Oh yeah right lets throw a nano hive at his head that will help. -Taking a objective? You crazy?! Im gonna sit on top off that mountain with my sniper rifle to pad my K/D. - Why cant my Sica take out that tank called a "sagaris"? Ive put 300.000 ISK into it that was very expensive. - 2vs1 gunnfight (you + blueberry vs 1 enemy): You start shoting the enemy and the blueberry shrieks and runs away. - A 2 million ISK sagaris gets called in and the blueberry steals it and gets destroyed cause he has no clue how to handle it. I'm corpless and none of this statement except one is correct for me. I don't like spawn killer so I'll hack that CRU . About you AV statement: I use swarm launcher (can't afford forge) time to time. However every time I use it, I understand that most of the time I'll run around trying to kill someone with SMG and rarely there will appear some vehicle which I can shoot some rockets. This means that I won't get as much SP and ISK as I can with AR. I don't snipe, but I understand that when your team is redlined, sniping is your way to get some SP/ISK. What I mean is that randoms are randoms. They will be worse than a team full of corps squads. However, a game can be designed to allow even randoms to have fun. "You should join a corp" is a cheap excuse for those who gave up designing something better. Skill into SMGs or Pistols when you're running with AV. Make your sidearm GOOD.
I use SMGs more than ARs even on my non-AV builds. I'm pretty good at getting in close before engaging, and my short range weaponry hits harder than ARs at the kind of ranges I prefer to fight in. |
Jason Pearson
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
742
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Posted - 2012.11.15 13:45:00 -
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The dark cloud wrote: -Oh look that guy got killed and has some weird icon on it. What should i do? Oh yeah right lets throw a nano hive at his head that will help. .
To be fair, I get this done to me even with Corpmates xD |
Grenwal Hiesenberg
Shadow Company HQ
225
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Posted - 2012.11.15 13:53:00 -
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Yeah, that was me, thank goodness for wp from hives and uplinks. I lost three forge guns and four level three swarms (what a waste of sp that was...). We were trying but had very little teamwork from most other players. I didn't do that bad though, if I remember correctly, I earned 27,000 sp (booster included) and a little over 150,000 ISK for putting up with that BS. PS I HATE my phone |
Ty 'SweetCheeks' Borg
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
192
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Posted - 2012.11.15 14:04:00 -
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Everyone here is gonna love meeting my spider tanks :P
We sat through an OB not taking a bit of damage the other day hehe. |
Knightshade Belladonna
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
288
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Posted - 2012.11.15 14:24:00 -
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The dark cloud wrote:this game aint fair if you are fed up getting hammered you better search yourself a decent corp otherwise you will never experience good teamwork. Just a heads up what a random (blueberry) is thinking: -Why should i use AV? My Ar skills will somehow get rid off that tank! (Sagaris turns around and shots missiles) -Why should i hack back a objective? I dont get any points from that. - (ambush map with CRU) Oh look my team is all around the enemy CRU and getting kills just so that i can hack it and we have a spawn point yay 50 WP . (when friendly fire is enabled these guys will get shot on sight)-Oh look that guy got killed and has some weird icon on it. What should i do? Oh yeah right lets throw a nano hive at his head that will help. -Taking a objective? You crazy?! Im gonna sit on top off that mountain with my sniper rifle to pad my K/D. - Why cant my Sica take out that tank called a "sagaris"? Ive put 300.000 ISK into it that was very expensive. - 2vs1 gunnfight (you + blueberry vs 1 enemy): You start shoting the enemy and the blueberry shrieks and runs away. - A 2 million ISK sagaris gets called in and the blueberry steals it and gets destroyed cause he has no clue how to handle it.
In my book, I call that ***** ****. +1 to the blueberries whpo stop you spawn farmers. I will run in and cap it , and you say friendly fire you can;t wait for it... I'll shoot you right back in the face, then what? we both lose the game because we want to shoot eachother in the face.. because you like to spawn camp.. stfu man
I ran into some people the other day with this same thought of yours, they were camping objective c, while we had a b and d captured... I ran in there and tried capturing C because I like my MCC to look nice. Next thing I know I got 2 LAV that keep ramming me off the hack everytime I tried, so I jumped on the barricade above the computer flipped the driver the bird, hacked it. Lamers |
Knightshade Belladonna
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
288
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Posted - 2012.11.15 14:26:00 -
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Ty 'SweetCheeks' Borg wrote:Everyone here is gonna love meeting my spider tanks :P
We sat through an OB not taking a bit of damage the other day hehe.
Tanks are terribly immune to OB, an LAV is toast, all infantry is toast, tanks being huge as hell somehow don't take much dmg at all |
Ty 'SweetCheeks' Borg
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
192
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Posted - 2012.11.15 14:36:00 -
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Knightshade Belladonna wrote:Ty 'SweetCheeks' Borg wrote:Everyone here is gonna love meeting my spider tanks :P
We sat through an OB not taking a bit of damage the other day hehe. Tanks are terribly immune to OB, an LAV is toast, all infantry is toast, tanks being huge as hell somehow don't take much dmg at all
Actually it depends a lot on where the OB is dropped. If the tank is in a valley then the blasts are gonna impact on the terrain above it most likely. When out in the open though OB's eat up my Sagaris's shields pretty quick tbh.
With spider tanking though you can just about sit there repping each other and laugh it off |
EnglishSnake
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
1012
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Posted - 2012.11.15 14:46:00 -
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TBH its WBS which really is weak to top correctly fitted tanks
We have OB to worry about which will cream anything |
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Knightshade Belladonna
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
288
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Posted - 2012.11.15 15:26:00 -
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EnglishSnake wrote:TBH its WBS which really is weak to top correctly fitted tanks
We have OB to worry about which will cream anything
WBS? war barge strikes? |
Jason Pearson
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
742
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Posted - 2012.11.15 15:38:00 -
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Ty 'SweetCheeks' Borg wrote:Knightshade Belladonna wrote:Ty 'SweetCheeks' Borg wrote:Everyone here is gonna love meeting my spider tanks :P
We sat through an OB not taking a bit of damage the other day hehe. Tanks are terribly immune to OB, an LAV is toast, all infantry is toast, tanks being huge as hell somehow don't take much dmg at all Actually it depends a lot on where the OB is dropped. If the tank is in a valley then the blasts are gonna impact on the terrain above it most likely. When out in the open though OB's eat up my Sagaris's shields pretty quick tbh. With spider tanking though you can just about sit there repping each other and laugh it off
3 heavy Shield Reps hitting a Sagaris at once, not OP at all. :D |
Sytonis Auran
Valor Coalition RISE of LEGION
52
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Posted - 2012.11.15 23:38:00 -
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Ty 'SweetCheeks' Borg wrote:Everyone here is gonna love meeting my spider tanks :P
We sat through an OB not taking a bit of damage the other day hehe.
Interesting...
OB's will take out all militia tanks regardless, gunloggi's and sagaris' need to already be damaged or modules on cool down to be taken out. Can their armour variants survive reliably? |
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