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Onar Kion
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Posted - 2012.11.13 14:31:00 -
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i like it, just make them pirates. Then it explains why they all have bounties. Make it like in EVE each pirate has a set bounty on them, could be for how difficult they are you get more ISK.
Would like to see bigger ones with 4, 12, 24, 32 players and up helping each other out. Also helping with squads/corps working together, learning each other play styles.
Would help you to earn ISK, work on your skills, and fits in a combat situation.
I know a lot of people that are more interested in Dust PVE and Co-Op then sololy PVP. |
Onar Kion
Dark Horizon Industries
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Posted - 2012.11.13 18:10:00 -
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Edu Ashbourne wrote:Bounties would be neat but would probably require some coding. Better to stick with the warpoints system for now I think.
Warpoints don't go with you after your done with the mission. Bounties goes right along with EVE, lots of things have bounties there even other players putting bounties on each other. Wouldn't be anymore coding then the number you get now when shooting someone. It could just have a ISK value under it. |
Onar Kion
Dark Horizon Industries
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Posted - 2012.11.13 18:37:00 -
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Edu Ashbourne wrote:Onar Kion wrote:Edu Ashbourne wrote:Bounties would be neat but would probably require some coding. Better to stick with the warpoints system for now I think. Warpoints don't go with you after your done with the mission. Bounties goes right along with EVE, lots of things have bounties there even other players putting bounties on each other. Wouldn't be anymore coding then the number you get now when shooting someone. It could just have a ISK value under it. I guess you could have bounties but they would have to split between squad members anyway, like with eve fleets. Probably still a good idea to reward kills though, else stealth classes would rush past everything to speed through objectives.
Yeah in EVE you get paid for the mission, get a bonus for doing it in the time limited. Plus get paid per ship you destory (If it is a rogue drone or pirate). So it makes sense that PVE missions in Dust work the same as far as payment. Plus in EVE you loot, and salvage the ships which you can sell those items too to make more ISK or stockpile the items. |
Onar Kion
Dark Horizon Industries
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Posted - 2012.11.13 21:22:00 -
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Fivetimes Infinity wrote:I don't like this idea. Having drones or whatever for a very unique sort of coop experience is fine. It varies the gameplay options open to people, and hey, who doesn't like shooting robots with friends?
But bots that mirror the players you fight in PvP would not be the way to go. If you want to play that kind of game, you should queue for an Instant Battle. CCP has a vested interest in getting people to queue for games, as it keeps wait times low. Playing against bots using forge guns and assault rifles instead of playing against players using the same isn't really something that'd contribute to Dust being a good game. You're not offering players a new kind of gameplay experience like fighting drones would be, and are only making it harder for people to find a good Instant Battle game. And making it one squad vs. one squad doesn't change that.
Why can't you have both? That is very narrow view saying I only like PVP so thats all it should be.. I personally know several people that want to play Dust but have no interest in playing PvP solely. I play EVE and I run missions all the time. EVE is not soley PVP, or PVE it's a mixture of both. I'd rather attract both player bases, then just one player base and alienating the other. Since the more players you the more successful the game is, and you will get cross over between the PVP and PVE game types.
Plus once the Corp taxes are in play PVE'ing players will still be earning your corp ISK. |
Onar Kion
Dark Horizon Industries
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Posted - 2012.11.15 17:21:00 -
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I have said it before, but honestly I a looking more forward to PVE stuff lately. Since I am in the same EVE Universe, can interact with my EVE Corp. I don't have to PVP all the time. I think in a sense DUST will push people away if it is only PVP. I know at times, I log in check out my skill points and maybe play a match then log out. In other games if I am getting spawn camped, or constantly dying. It's more Oh well, that's life. Do I get annoyed sure but doesn't last long. Here, when those things happen, I am losing money every time I spawn in and die. After a while of losing lots of ISK and accomplishing virtually nothing it gets old. I still would like to play but usually end up just logging out. Now if I had a change to play other modes, missions with friends. Yes we could still lose ISK, but in a more relaxed setting.
Or sheesh I lost a lot of ISK today, I'm gonna have to run some missions to cover my costs. This doing myself, instead of just having my EVE character send my Dust character tens of millions of ISK. |
Onar Kion
Dark Horizon Industries
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Posted - 2012.11.16 23:08:00 -
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Romilous Kashenti wrote:Onar Kion wrote:I have said it before, but honestly I a looking more forward to PVE stuff lately. Since I am in the same EVE Universe, can interact with my EVE Corp. I don't have to PVP all the time. I think in a sense DUST will push people away if it is only PVP. I know at times, I log in check out my skill points and maybe play a match then log out. In other games if I am getting spawn camped, or constantly dying. It's more Oh well, that's life. Do I get annoyed sure but doesn't last long. Here, when those things happen, I am losing money every time I spawn in and die. After a while of losing lots of ISK and accomplishing virtually nothing it gets old. I still would like to play but usually end up just logging out. Now if I had a change to play other modes, missions with friends. Yes we could still lose ISK, but in a more relaxed setting.
Or sheesh I lost a lot of ISK today, I'm gonna have to run some missions to cover my costs. This doing myself, instead of just having my EVE character send my Dust character tens of millions of ISK. Didn't they say that there were going to be games with drone infestations? That would be your PVE.
Survival modes can be fun, because that is all Drone Infestation seems to be. I'd like more then that, then swarm comes shoot swarm, hard swarm comes etc. I do like it in Warhammer Space Marine 40,000 but that has a melee element to it.
I'd like to see a lot of different kinds of PVE missions that aren't just survival.
Like you're hired to stop Sansha from kidnapping people, and have to save civilians. So you fight off Sansha and have to keep X amount of civilians from being taken.
Or your contract because a pirate base was found and it needs to be destroyed. Maybe a side mission that it's a drug lab.
You're hired because data was stolen from another corp and your team of players has to HALO drop on to a hi-res building and infiltrate it to secure the data try to do it undetected or fight off the revival corps security forces.
Missions could have levels same as EVE. So a level 1 mission you could solo with the right kills. Or missions all have side missions but it's not possible to do the main objective and the side missions. So you co-op.
This could be a factional war fair or a regular missions. Imagine a mission you're hire to assassinate someone, so you see a urban area, that isn't rubble. A city talked about in EVE but you are actually there and can see it. You have to shoot some corps VP, or the territorial Governor.
So much can be done here plus keeping with the EVE universe and the PVP side of it. |
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