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Tyrus 4 Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 83	Posted - 2012.11.12 08:49:00 - [1] - Quote So as we know, we are currently using a mixture of gear from all 4 Nations but in release, each Nation will have its own full complement of equipment based around each Nations cultural style, just like they do in EVE. This is an attempt to keep track of what gear is revealed to us and what Nation they belong to. Not including Aurum Gear, cause I am seeing Aurum gear as being "black market" variants, so to speak. Help me out with this list, and I'll try to keep it updated. and will re-arrange it as needed, as I am sure I will get several of these wrong. my initial list is off the top of my head, I am not ingame right now to look. NOTE: By revealed, I mean that either We can use it ingame now, or we have concept art (like the Testers Tournament wallpapers) for it. Infantry Equipment - Amarr Empire: Heavy Dropsuit Scrambler Pistol (Sidearm) Scrambler Rifle (Light AI) Concept Art Laser Rifle (Light AI) Caldari State: Assault Dropsuit Forge Gun (Heavy AV) Sniper Rifle (Light AI) Swarm Launcher (Light AV) AV Grenade (Explosive) Gauss Rifle (Light AI) Concept Art Nova Knives (Sidearm) Gallente Federation: Scout Dropsuit Assault Rifle (Light AI) Shotgun (Light AI) Flux Grenade (Explosive) Minmatar Republic: Logistics Dropsuit Locus Grenade (explosive) Submachine Gun (Sidearm) Flaylock Pistol (Sidearm) Concept Art Heavy Machine Gun (Heavy AI) Mass Driver (Light AI)
Tyrus 4 Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 83	Posted - 2012.11.12 08:50:00 - [2] - Quote Reserved for Vehicles.
Tyrus 4 Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 83	Posted - 2012.11.12 08:51:00 - [3] - Quote thats what i got so far. I'll work on the rest sometime tomorrow, or the next day, since I am off work and got nothing better to do for most of the day. some of these, I categorized, by looking at the Prototypes of each weapon, as most of the Prototypes bear the name of a Corporation in one of the 4 Nations.
Tectonious Falcon The Southern Legion 395	Posted - 2012.11.12 09:09:00 - [4] - Quote Laser rifle is also an Amarr weapon
Tyrus 4 Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 83	Posted - 2012.11.12 09:13:00 - [5] - Quote Tectonious Falcon wrote: Laser rifle is also an Amarr weapon thanks, added.
Necandi Brasil Conspiratus Immortalis 245	Posted - 2012.11.12 09:40:00 - [6] - Quote Have they confirmed there will be gear for all nations at launch?
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 3064	Posted - 2012.11.12 09:51:00 - [7] - Quote The upcoming crusader dropsuit is Amarr. The upcoming pilot dropsuit is Gallente. The upcoming MK25 gauss rifle is Caldari: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpJQjwKs6Kg
Elena Peoples BetaMax. 9	Posted - 2012.11.12 11:13:00 - [8] - Quote Necandi Brasil wrote: Have they confirmed there will be gear for all nations at launch? If there isn`t CCP will very likely have another riot on their hands, and I`ll be there this time too.
Umbat Boki Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 157	Posted - 2012.11.12 11:18:00 - [9] - Quote Elena Peoples wrote: Necandi Brasil wrote: Have they confirmed there will be gear for all nations at launch? If there isn`t CCP will very likely have another riot on their hands, and I`ll be there this time too. PS3 has limited memory and as far as I know CCP hasn't confirmed that there will be separate gear for all nations.
Vallud Eadesso Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 63	Posted - 2012.11.12 12:37:00 - [10] - Quote Umbat Boki wrote: Elena Peoples wrote: Necandi Brasil wrote: Have they confirmed there will be gear for all nations at launch? If there isn`t CCP will very likely have another riot on their hands, and I`ll be there this time too. PS3 has limited memory and as far as I know CCP hasn't confirmed that there will be separate gear for all nations. It's not THAT limited! If they can run MMOs on the PS3, they can sure as hell add a few weapon models. Hell, CoD has looads~ of weapons to choose from!

Nstomper Th3-ReSiStAnCe-SEC.0 205	Posted - 2012.11.12 13:29:00 - [11] - Quote lol i dont know how many threads i made with this same topic
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 1849	Posted - 2012.11.12 14:26:00 - [12] - Quote I doubt EVERY item will have multiple racial variants, but at least a few of the key ones need them. Everyone needs access to some kind of AR equivalent. Gallente make the current AR, the Laser Rifle can probably fill the role for Amarr, but the closest the Caldari have is a Sniper Rifle (NOT a viable substitute) and the Minmatar have to work with HMGs and SMGs with no mid-range or in-between-size assault weapons.
Reav Hannari Red Rock Outriders Red Rock Consortium 295	Posted - 2012.11.12 14:57:00 - [13] - Quote It would be nice to get CCP confirmation that all basic roles and weapon classes will be available in racial variants. Even if its just "won't be ready at release but we're working on them." Lucky for me that Minmatar filled the Logistics role. Now, please give me my Minmatar LAV and assault rifle.
Necandi Brasil Conspiratus Immortalis 245	Posted - 2012.11.12 15:59:00 - [14] - Quote Elena Peoples wrote: Necandi Brasil wrote: Have they confirmed there will be gear for all nations at launch? If there isn`t CCP will very likely have another riot on their hands, and I`ll be there this time too. Indeed ... lol
Tyrus 4 Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 83	Posted - 2012.11.12 22:14:00 - [15] - Quote I am quite anxious to see the Amarr AV weapons. If they suck, I may well be switching to Caldari.
Tyrus 4 Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 83	Posted - 2012.11.12 22:17:00 - [16] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: The upcoming crusader dropsuit is Amarr. The upcoming pilot dropsuit is Gallente. The upcoming MK25 gauss rifle is Caldari: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpJQjwKs6Kg added the Rifle. when i find some concept art for the Dropsuits, I will add them.
Tyrus 4 Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 83	Posted - 2012.11.12 22:23:00 - [17] - Quote Garrett Blacknova wrote: I doubt EVERY item will have multiple racial variants, but at least a few of the key ones need them. Everyone needs access to some kind of AR equivalent. Gallente make the current AR, the Laser Rifle can probably fill the role for Amarr, but the closest the Caldari have is a Sniper Rifle (NOT a viable substitute) and the Minmatar have to work with HMGs and SMGs with no mid-range or in-between-size assault weapons. right. all the basic weapon types and vehicle types will(should) have racial variants whose combat style is unique. Sidearm Light Anti-Infantry Light Anti-Vehicle Sniper Rifle Heavy Anti-Infantry Heavy Anti-Vehicle LAV HAV Dropship Logistics Vehicles The Infantry weapons would different in their ammunition type and their style of usage. The vehicles would differ in aesthetic design and Turret usage.
Scheneighnay McBob Bojo's School of the Trades 1058	Posted - 2012.11.12 23:22:00 - [18] - Quote nova knives are caldari
Tyrus 4 Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 83	Posted - 2012.11.12 23:39:00 - [19] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: nova knives are caldari thanks, added.
Tyrus 4 Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 83	Posted - 2012.11.13 05:14:00 - [20] - Quote any vehicle drivers wanna chime in on this? I don't use the vehicles, so I'm no expert on who manufactures what in that area.

Vermaak Doe SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 384	Posted - 2012.11.13 05:18:00 - [21] - Quote The forge is unclear whether it's caldari or gallente origin because rails don't get it's level of stopping power while blasters don't get it's range
Tyrus 4 Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 83	Posted - 2012.11.13 05:45:00 - [22] - Quote Vermaak Doe wrote: The forge is unclear whether it's caldari or gallente origin because rails don't get it's level of stopping power while blasters don't get it's range Forge Guns are made by Caldari Corporations. gimme a sec and I'll post which ones.
Tyrus 4 Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 83	Posted - 2012.11.13 05:54:00 - [23] - Quote Here are the Corporations that make Forge Guns (using the Prototype tier as the basis of information) Ishukone Wiyrkomi Kaalakiota All three are Caldari MegaCorps. Also, according to the official description of the Forge Gun, it was adapted from Deep Core Mining Inc.'s Proprietary Mining Equipment. DCM Inc. is also a Caldari Corporation, though not a MegaCorp, I don't think.
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 3064	Posted - 2012.11.13 06:00:00 - [24] - Quote Tyrus 4 wrote: KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: The upcoming crusader dropsuit is Amarr. The upcoming pilot dropsuit is Gallente. The upcoming MK25 gauss rifle is Caldari: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpJQjwKs6Kg added the Rifle. when i find some concept art for the Dropsuits, I will add them. Concept art isn't there yet, but they have been spotted on servers, and its confirmed that they are coming. Kind of like how we knew the scrambler rifle, laser rifle, flaylock pistol, and plasma cannon were coming before we saw concept art. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=297926#post297926 Check out this thread. A lot of the stuff listed on there has already come.
Radioship Algintal Core Gallente Federation 57	Posted - 2012.11.13 08:02:00 - [25] - Quote Can someone please explain, why we are using (in general) this mix of gear? Assault suit is Caldari made, while Assault Rifle is made by Gallente. Everyone know that Gallente and Caldari are hated by each other and had wars before. As playing for Gallente, i dont want to use suits made by filthy Caldari... This is just sad that CCP aint following EVE pattern lore wiser. :(
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 1849	Posted - 2012.11.13 11:31:00 - [26] - Quote Radioship wrote: Can someone please explain, why we are using (in general) this mix of gear? Assault suit is Caldari made, while Assault Rifle is made by Gallente. Everyone know that Gallente and Caldari are hated by each other and had wars before. As playing for Gallente, i dont want to use suits made by filthy Caldari... This is just sad that CCP aint following EVE pattern lore wiser. :( I approve of this post, but as a Caldari, there's something which has to be said Radioship wrote: As playing for Gallente, i dont want to use suits made by filthy Caldari... Then run along in your Scout Suit. Far and fast. We will be coming for you.
Scheneighnay McBob Bojo's School of the Trades 1058	Posted - 2012.11.13 14:39:00 - [27] - Quote As far as vehicles go atm, every vehicle type has both caldari and gallente variants. The turrets are/ are going to be the same as EVE Caldari- missiles Gallente- Blasters and railguns Minmatar- (none of these are released, but they're listed in the market)- autocannons & artillery Amarr- (none of these are listed, but again in the market)- lasers
Tyrus 4 Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 83	Posted - 2012.11.13 19:42:00 - [28] - Quote Radioship wrote: Can someone please explain, why we are using (in general) this mix of gear? Assault suit is Caldari made, while Assault Rifle is made by Gallente. Everyone know that Gallente and Caldari are hated by each other and had wars before. As playing for Gallente, i dont want to use suits made by filthy Caldari... This is just sad that CCP aint following EVE pattern lore wiser. :( cause Beta. basically. Storywise, we are in Mordu's neutral territory participating in his trials, and we use the equipment that he provides. it won't be this way on release. at least not initially. if Dust follows the pattern of EVE, eventually you will be able to use whatever gear from whatever nation you see fit to train, but you will start with your own Nation's gear exclusively.
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 3064	Posted - 2012.11.13 20:04:00 - [29] - Quote Radioship wrote: Can someone please explain, why we are using (in general) this mix of gear? Assault suit is Caldari made, while Assault Rifle is made by Gallente. Everyone know that Gallente and Caldari are hated by each other and had wars before. As playing for Gallente, i dont want to use suits made by filthy Caldari... This is just sad that CCP aint following EVE pattern lore wiser. :( We are mercenaries, we fight for whoever. We're not national soldiers armed and supplied by a government.


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