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xjumpman23
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.10.30 12:36:00 -
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42 round clip increase the range and RoF you know the drill CCP
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Bendtner92
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
369
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Posted - 2012.10.30 12:39:00 -
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Bad news Jumpman, bad news.
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=381213#post381213
"Assault Rifles (Breach especially) - the ultimate weapons of DUST 514".
Lol. |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.10.30 13:57:00 -
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Hahaha. Lol. Ultimate weapon is anything with "missile" in it's name. Nothing else even comes close. |
Noc Tempre
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
1170
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Posted - 2012.10.30 14:12:00 -
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Hears but doesn't listen. Typical CCP. |
xjumpman23
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
262
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Posted - 2012.10.30 14:25:00 -
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"ultimate weapons of DUST 514" ( i'm seriously going to take a screen of this)
CCP has no idea what they are doing in regards to AR balance.
Standard AR's should have a considerable amount of recoil
Breach weapons should have little recoil but a higher clip size
Burst rifles should be 3 round burst.
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Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries
Legacy Rising
886
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Posted - 2012.10.30 16:50:00 -
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xjumpman23 wrote:"ultimate weapons of DUST 514" ( i'm seriously going to take a screen of this) CCP has no idea what they are doing in regards to AR balance. Standard AR's should have a considerable amount of recoil Breach weapons should have little recoil but a higher clip size Burst rifles should be 3 round burst.
The guns with the most hp damage per bullet should have higher recoil and slower rate of fire.
The hmgs should have a considerable amount of recoil as well because of the insane rates of fire |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
3064
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Posted - 2012.10.30 17:33:00 -
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HMGs are fine. The fact that you have to be a slow heavy with no equipment slots, as well as well as the threat of overheat balances it.
Breach AR should NOT have more recoil than the basic AR. They have lower damage per magazine, lower damage per second, and less range than the basic AR. This weapon doesn't need any more disabilities. |
I-Shayz-I
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
172
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Posted - 2012.10.30 17:56:00 -
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Just make the basic AR less accurate. That would solve EVERYTHING. |
Noc Tempre
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
1170
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Posted - 2012.10.30 18:04:00 -
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Breach AR has an identity crisis. Is it a battle rifle? Is it a CQC variant? Neither? Both? I think the tactical is better at the battle rifle role, so a larger magazine and shorter optimal would give it a role similar to a modern carbine. While that would make it desired by many, it wouldn't be the be-all-end-all rifle either. |
Ten-Sidhe
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
414
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Posted - 2012.10.30 20:08:00 -
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The description says breach is meant to be a cqc weapon with high hip fire accuracy.
The low rate of fire would make recoil more controllable. A little more rate of fire or damage, dps should still be lower then standard ar, and a clip 48 to 54 round clip. This would give it the most damage per clip.
The ar could also have a long range low rate of fire rifle. Range about same as tac ar, damage and rate of fire similar to breach, could be called the x-23 rifle after it's biggest proponent. The semi-auto tac would put out more damage with a fast finger and have better scope, but the x-23 would be automatic. |
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DarkShadowFox
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
238
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Posted - 2012.10.31 02:08:00 -
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Spec into ammo capacity, sharpshooter, and damage upgrades... there is no need for a buff, start doing some work building your classes correctly.. everything isnt going to be handed to you and your going to have to do some work. |
xjumpman23
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
262
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Posted - 2012.10.31 03:38:00 -
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DarkShadowFox wrote:Spec into ammo capacity, sharpshooter, and damage upgrades... there is no need for a buff, start doing some work building your classes correctly.. everything isnt going to be handed to you and your going to have to do some work.
Actually there is a need for a buff since the rifle is completely useless. There's a reason why I can only reach half my killing potential when I use it versus when I use a standard rifle.
I've been playing this game since march and understand the skill tree better than most people in this game. I build godlike characters every build. The breach rifle was heavily nerfed in precursor. |
DarkShadowFox
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
238
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Posted - 2012.10.31 20:03:00 -
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xjumpman23 wrote:DarkShadowFox wrote:Spec into ammo capacity, sharpshooter, and damage upgrades... there is no need for a buff, start doing some work building your classes correctly.. everything isnt going to be handed to you and your going to have to do some work. Actually there is a need for a buff since the rifle is completely useless. There's a reason why I can only reach half my killing potential when I use it versus when I use a standard rifle. I've been playing this game since march and understand the skill tree better than most people in this game. I build godlike characters every build. The breach rifle was heavily nerfed in precursor.
maybe things are nerfed for a reason? That reason being I dont know, feels like there trying to get us to buy AUR weapons more though. |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2012.11.01 02:42:00 -
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DarkShadowFox wrote:xjumpman23 wrote:DarkShadowFox wrote:Spec into ammo capacity, sharpshooter, and damage upgrades... there is no need for a buff, start doing some work building your classes correctly.. everything isnt going to be handed to you and your going to have to do some work. Actually there is a need for a buff since the rifle is completely useless. There's a reason why I can only reach half my killing potential when I use it versus when I use a standard rifle. I've been playing this game since march and understand the skill tree better than most people in this game. I build godlike characters every build. The breach rifle was heavily nerfed in precursor. maybe things are nerfed for a reason? That reason being I dont know, feels like there trying to get us to buy AUR weapons more though.
inb4 yet another "pay-to-win" thread.
I still prefer the idea of 3 select-fire rifles instead of the 4 typecast ones we have right now.
Standard with a semi-auto mode with no RoF cap.
Burst that can full-auto faster than the others but can use a 3-shot burst for better accuracy if necessary.
Tac rifle that's full auto with the RoF of the Breach, or has its semi-auto mode with a slight delay imposed between shots. |
DarkShadowFox
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
238
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Posted - 2012.11.01 16:08:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:DarkShadowFox wrote:xjumpman23 wrote:DarkShadowFox wrote:Spec into ammo capacity, sharpshooter, and damage upgrades... there is no need for a buff, start doing some work building your classes correctly.. everything isnt going to be handed to you and your going to have to do some work. Actually there is a need for a buff since the rifle is completely useless. There's a reason why I can only reach half my killing potential when I use it versus when I use a standard rifle. I've been playing this game since march and understand the skill tree better than most people in this game. I build godlike characters every build. The breach rifle was heavily nerfed in precursor. maybe things are nerfed for a reason? That reason being I dont know, feels like there trying to get us to buy AUR weapons more though. inb4 yet another "pay-to-win" thread. I still prefer the idea of 3 select-fire rifles instead of the 4 typecast ones we have right now. Standard with a semi-auto mode with no RoF cap. Burst that can full-auto faster than the others but can use a 3-shot burst for better accuracy if necessary. Tac rifle that's full auto with the RoF of the Breach, or has its semi-auto mode with a slight delay imposed between shots.
Ok, so WHY are people complaning about a buff? or a wanting a buff when you just stated theres nothing wrong with it, I feel at this point now that you've explained it, I feel like the people who complain just have unskilled hands or are trying to play beyond their limits, guys if you die you die, there is no need to pull a perfect match, play for yourself not to impress others.
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